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Is Under the Crimsom Sun out?

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#1
HobbitFan
Jun 11, 2011 20:55:58 According to Amazon the KRAD book Under the Crimsom Sun Dark Sun book is out. Has anyone confirmed this yet, seen it or anything?

#2
pavek
Jun 11, 2011 21:37:33 Yes it's out. Got mine from Amazon earlier in the week. I have to say I really enjoyed it, much more "Athasian" than the last novel.
#3
Gallard
Jun 12, 2011 0:02:25 i picked it up tuesday from a local barnes&noble. planning to start it tomorrow after i finish Spectral Blaze tonight.
#4
HobbitFan
Jun 12, 2011 12:29:52
Good to hear it's out. I'm a big fan of KRAD becuase of his Star Trek stuff. I'm definately going to try and track downa copy of this new book.
#5
Raddu76
Jun 13, 2011 7:44:27 I've got it and just started reading it.

SO far the writing is ok. As a Dark Sun grognard there are little things that annoy me, the details. Crodlu have carapace? Doesn't really make sense. Thri-kreen walk on all six legs when not around bi-peds? Interesting idea, but it doesn't fit with ANY edition of the canon.

I do like how he's started to detail Raam, a very underused city-state. I like the way he talks about the castes.

I know the book is supposed to tie in the abyssal plague with all the settings, but seeing the intro chapter be all about gods is sort of offputting for a Dark Sun book. One of the things I love about Dark Sun was that there were no gods and it was never talked about why there werent any, which made it a great mystery. THats gone now (not with this book, it was gone before).
#6
Raddu76
Jun 27, 2011 8:21:00 I've finally finish the book over the weekend.

Overall the story is ok, but as I said above the details become a bit niggling. The talk of copper pieces, trolls, and mind-magic is jarring. ONe of the major themes of Dark Sun in previous editions was the psionics and magic were different. In order to become a dragon you needed to have psionics and magic, in this novel psionics is known as mind magic and it's just another example of the details spoiling the story.

It feels like this novel is the beginning of a story, but I have a feeling there'll be no follow up. The story was engaging enough that I am interested in know what happens to the Voidharrow.
#7
naxel
Jun 27, 2011 17:39:05 Spoilers be damned. What's the Voidharrow?
#8
Raddu76
Jun 27, 2011 22:29:10 from the back of the book..."...Rol unwittingly opens the door to a ruined Abyssal realm. The Voidharrow takes hold of him, and he begins to morph into a beast like none they have ever seen"
#9
tallric_kruush
Jul 04, 2011 4:49:27 The little things held this one back, for me. As Raddu mentioned, the author takes a lot of liberties with canon. This might make more sense if these changes didn't flout both early and 4E canon. I seemed as if the author had only vague experience with Athas.

A major quibble I had with the story is the author's take on the Sorceror Kings. He treats them very much like your average human monarchs. I'm not sure how others took it, but it destroyed verisimilitude for me.
#10
ultimate_cap
Jul 04, 2011 10:37:50 Why can't Wizards get the same writers back that did the early books? Denning and Abby understood Dark Sun and were great "D&D"/fantasy writers.
#11
monastyrski
Jul 06, 2011 19:08:58
Denning and Abby understood Dark Sun

Did Abbey really understand?
#12
ultimate_cap
Jul 08, 2011 9:29:40
Denning and Abby understood Dark Sun

Did Abbey really understand?

I would say so. The Brazen Gambit was awsome (imho).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 HobbitFan Jun 11, 2011 20:55:58	According to Amazon the KRAD book Under the Crimsom Sun Dark Sun book is out. Has anyone confirmed this yet, seen it or anything?
#2 pavek Jun 11, 2011 21:37:33	Yes it's out. Got mine from Amazon earlier in the week. I have to say I really enjoyed it, much more "Athasian" than the last novel.
#3 Gallard Jun 12, 2011 0:02:25	i picked it up tuesday from a local barnes&noble. planning to start it tomorrow after i finish Spectral Blaze tonight.
#4 HobbitFan Jun 12, 2011 12:29:52	Good to hear it's out. I'm a big fan of KRAD becuase of his Star Trek stuff. I'm definately going to try and track downa copy of this new book.
#5 Raddu76 Jun 13, 2011 7:44:27	I've got it and just started reading it. SO far the writing is ok. As a Dark Sun grognard there are little things that annoy me, the details. Crodlu have carapace? Doesn't really make sense. Thri-kreen walk on all six legs when not around bi-peds? Interesting idea, but it doesn't fit with ANY edition of the canon. I do like how he's started to detail Raam, a very underused city-state. I like the way he talks about the castes. I know the book is supposed to tie in the abyssal plague with all the settings, but seeing the intro chapter be all about gods is sort of offputting for a Dark Sun book. One of the things I love about Dark Sun was that there were no gods and it was never talked about why there werent any, which made it a great mystery. THats gone now (not with this book, it was gone before).
#6 Raddu76 Jun 27, 2011 8:21:00	I've finally finish the book over the weekend. Overall the story is ok, but as I said above the details become a bit niggling. The talk of copper pieces, trolls, and mind-magic is jarring. ONe of the major themes of Dark Sun in previous editions was the psionics and magic were different. In order to become a dragon you needed to have psionics and magic, in this novel psionics is known as mind magic and it's just another example of the details spoiling the story. It feels like this novel is the beginning of a story, but I have a feeling there'll be no follow up. The story was engaging enough that I am interested in know what happens to the Voidharrow.
#7 naxel Jun 27, 2011 17:39:05	Spoilers be damned. What's the Voidharrow?
#8 Raddu76 Jun 27, 2011 22:29:10	from the back of the book..."...Rol unwittingly opens the door to a ruined Abyssal realm. The Voidharrow takes hold of him, and he begins to morph into a beast like none they have ever seen"
#9 tallric_kruush Jul 04, 2011 4:49:27	The little things held this one back, for me. As Raddu mentioned, the author takes a lot of liberties with canon. This might make more sense if these changes didn't flout both early and 4E canon. I seemed as if the author had only vague experience with Athas. A major quibble I had with the story is the author's take on the Sorceror Kings. He treats them very much like your average human monarchs. I'm not sure how others took it, but it destroyed verisimilitude for me.
#10 ultimate_cap Jul 04, 2011 10:37:50	Why can't Wizards get the same writers back that did the early books? Denning and Abby understood Dark Sun and were great "D&D"/fantasy writers.
#11 monastyrski Jul 06, 2011 19:08:58	Denning and Abby understood Dark Sun Did Abbey really understand?
#12 ultimate_cap Jul 08, 2011 9:29:40	Denning and Abby understood Dark Sun Did Abbey really understand? I would say so. The Brazen Gambit was awsome (imho).