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#1 Sysane Mar 30, 2011 17:30:47	Is there any documented reference of how long it took to construct Kalak's Ziggurat? The official time line places its completion in the year of Priest's Defiance (Free Year: 1), but in what year did construction actually start?
#2 baronspam Mar 30, 2011 20:43:16	Im pulling this out of dim memory, but in the novel I think they made reference to the contstruction taking 100 years or so.  Or I could be totally high on this one, but thats what I remember from the novel.
#3 Sysane Mar 30, 2011 22:02:18	Reading The Verdant Passage again now. Haven't come across the line of it taking a 100 years yet.
#4 mgbeach Mar 31, 2011 0:45:37	From the AD&D 2nd edition boxed set.. Of late, old King Kalak seems to have become senile. For the past twenty years, he has diverted much of the city's slave labor to building a mighty ziggurat (directly across the arena from his palace), claiming that it will protect Tyr from attacks by the dragon. At first, the nobles were tolerant of his folly, for the burden it placed on them was not great.  Over the last year, however, Kalak has grown frantic to finish the massive structure, appropriating so many slaves that there is almost nobody left to work the fields.
#5 Sysane Mar 31, 2011 5:33:49	Thats it. Thank you!
#6 Ozmodious Mar 31, 2011 18:54:34	I think it has to be noted that Kalak took almost all of the slaves within the city and used them to build that thing, leaving only the bare minimum to stay with their original masters. So there had to be hundreds of people working on that thing pretty much none stop.
#7 ixionnyu Apr 01, 2011 1:58:44	Twenty years? Hm... Got this from a document called the wanderer's journal. Not sure if it's official or anything but it talks about "Generations". Tyr   Located in a fertile valley in the foothills of the Ringing Mountains, Tyr was the first city–state to successfully revolt against its sorcerer–king. King Kalak ruled Tyr for some two thousand years until he was assassinated by his own subjects. His overthrow happened in the wake of the completion of an enormous ziggurat that he had been constructing for generations. His mad scheme all but crippled the city and the ziggurat proved to be the final component of a ceremony designed to drain the life from every citizen of Tyr in a vast working of defiling magic. Rumours persist that his own templarate conspired with nobles and slaves alike in the assassination, which was carried out by a lone mul warrior called Rikus.
#8 Sysane Apr 01, 2011 7:34:46	In the real world the pyramid of Giza took 30-50 years to build. In a world where there are immensely strong creatures like half-giants, muls, and tareks and with magic and psionics as tools 20 years sounds about right.
#9 phoenix_m Apr 01, 2011 14:13:37	Twenty years? Hm... Got this from a document called the wanderer's journal. Not sure if it's official or anything but it talks about "Generations". Tyr   Located in a fertile valley in the foothills of the Ringing Mountains, Tyr was the first city–state to successfully revolt against its sorcerer–king. King Kalak ruled Tyr for some two thousand years until he was assassinated by his own subjects. His overthrow happened in the wake of the completion of an enormous ziggurat that he had been constructing for generations. His mad scheme all but crippled the city and the ziggurat proved to be the final component of a ceremony designed to drain the life from every citizen of Tyr in a vast working of defiling magic. Rumours persist that his own templarate conspired with nobles and slaves alike in the assassination, which was carried out by a lone mul warrior called Rikus. Well, kreen only live for 20-30 years, each generation being 6-7 years.  Its still correct, from a certain point of view.
#10 Mithrus Apr 07, 2011 9:39:13	Twenty years? Hm... Got this from a document called the wanderer's journal. Not sure if it's official or anything but it talks about "Generations". Tyr   Located in a fertile valley in the foothills of the Ringing Mountains, Tyr was the first city–state to successfully revolt against its sorcerer–king. King Kalak ruled Tyr for some two thousand years until he was assassinated by his own subjects. His overthrow happened in the wake of the completion of an enormous ziggurat that he had been constructing for generations. His mad scheme all but crippled the city and the ziggurat proved to be the final component of a ceremony designed to drain the life from every citizen of Tyr in a vast working of defiling magic. Rumours persist that his own templarate conspired with nobles and slaves alike in the assassination, which was carried out by a lone mul warrior called Rikus. Both statements could be correct. Perhaps Kalak had only small number of slaves working on it for generations (what is time to an immortal?), but ramped up the effort in the last twenty years. Maybe he felt the sudden urge to complete it.
#11 Palladinae Apr 07, 2011 13:02:01	I remeber from "Verdant Passage" that it was built for over century. Nobles in tavern are discussing matters of Tyr's internal politics and mention that recently oppresion became unbearable and ziggurat is madness. One of them replies that it was in construction for century and their forefather survived opprersion. So I think Mithrus is right: at first caonstruction worsks went slowly but as they neard completion, Kalak began to rush things up and draining resources.
#12 Grummore Apr 08, 2011 8:34:33	Like you both said, it's probably been a while since the Ziggurat had been started. But why hurry if you are still trying to discover the process to become a dragon? Once he actually thought he would soon find a way to do it (soon for these immortal being can easily be 20 years), that's when he started using more resources and put a lots of pressure on the citizen (and slaves).