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#1 bengeldorn Oct 07, 2005 23:45:11	I was just looking in the ExPHB and the idea of this class came into my mind. Although I think it's overpowered as it is now, you should get the basic idea of this class, and could help me to make it more balanced. Maybe it was even done something similiar by someone else. If that's the case, then please give me a link so I can take a look at that one. Enough for the introduction...here we go.... Tattooist Tattooer is a prevalent profession in the city-states, that mainly is used to mark sklaves. The Tattooist is a master of his trade and besides regular tattoos able to create tattoos of the Way. Adventurers patronize tattooist befor their journeys and psions often ornate their bodies with the psionic tattoos with powers they don't know by themselves. Being a tattooist is eminently respectable an true master are able to create tattoos that even common psions aren't able to create. Anyone who is trained in the Way can become a tattooist. Being a tattooist is a stable profession with the ability to give ones fancy full scope. NPC tatooist can be found in any city-state as well as in some villages selling their service or being in the duty of templars or nobles. Sometimes tattooists travel through the table lands to discover new powers and inspirarion. Hit Points: d4 Requirements To qualify to become an tattooist, a charakter must fulfill the following criteria. Skills: Profession (tattooer) 6 ranks Feats: Scribe Tattoo, Skill Focus (profession (tattooer)) Psionics: Able to manifest 2nd-level powers. Class Skills The tattoist's class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Appraise (Int), Concentration (Con), Profession (tattooer) (Wis), Forgery (Int), Knowledge (psionics) (Int), and Psicraft (Int). Skill Points: 2 + Int modifier
#2 csk Oct 08, 2005 1:15:05	Improved Scribe Tattoo (Ex): A 3rd level tattooist must spend only 1/20 (instead of 1/25) of it base price in XP and uses up raw materials costing only 1/3 (instead of 1/2) of the tattoo's base price. 1/20 of the base price is more expensive than 1/25. (e.g. 100/20=5, 100/25 = 4)
#3 ruhl-than_sage Oct 08, 2005 6:33:07	1/20 of the base price is more expensive than 1/25. (e.g. 100/20=5, 100/25 = 4) Other than that it seems fine to me, not really overpowered at all honestly.
#4 bengeldorn Oct 08, 2005 8:37:02	1/20 of the base price is more expensive than 1/25. (e.g. 100/20=5, 100/25 = 4) Oops :embarrass Should be 1/33 (100/33 = 3). Other than that it seems fine to me, not really overpowered at all honestly. My first design had a full Power Known Progression, but I thought that would be too powerfull. What do you think?
#5 kalthandrix Oct 08, 2005 10:49:36	I like this PrC- it is kinda like an Athasian take on the Tatooed Monk but psionic and gives the ability to diversify the abilities. I think a full 5 lvl progression of psionic powers gained would not overpower this PrC- the abilities are not super powered so i would say go for 5 levels of +1 manifester levels. Good job- This would be a great PrC to add to the mul in Draj that can do psionic tatoos- maybe Jon could be presuaded to include it when the revised Draj material is finished.
#6 bengeldorn Oct 08, 2005 11:19:54	I like this PrC- it is kinda like an Athasian take on the Tatooed Monk but psionic and gives the ability to diversify the abilities. I think a full 5 lvl progression of psionic powers gained would not overpower this PrC- the abilities are not super powered so i would say go for 5 levels of +1 manifester levels. Good job- This would be a great PrC to add to the mul in Draj that can do psionic tatoos- maybe Jon could be presuaded to include it when the revised Draj material is finished. Thanks for the feedback. I changed it to a full 5 lvl progression, that way it could be an intersting PRC for any psion. The main idea was to create a class that sell's its psionic abilities as a service for anyone able to pay for it and to give psionic charakters more options, as IMHO there far more arcane PRCs than psionic PRCs out, but Athas is high psionic world, that needs far more psionic PRCs. I'm thinking about developing some other classes, the first on my list is a kind of bodyguard for mind (therefore I'm going to name it Mindguard). I haven't started withit yet, but maybe on tuesday, when I got more time to do that.
#7 gilliard_derosan Oct 08, 2005 12:09:41	I do like it, except for one little thing. Scribe Major Tattoo (Ex): A tattooist of the 5th level is able to create a psionic or crawling tattoo of any power of 4th level or lower that she knows. The market price for a psionic tattoo with 4th level power is 1500 gp (or cp). I don't like a fixed price for this, because someone may choose to scribe a 4th level power at higher than 7th level ML, and they are getting to do this with no additional charge. Using the laid out formula, a 4th level power at base ML would be 1400 (4x7x50) This way, if someone wanted more duration on something and wanted to scribe it at 9th ML, they would have to pay 1,800 instead of still only 1500..
#8 kalthandrix Oct 08, 2005 17:57:30	I'm thinking about developing some other classes, the first on my list is a kind of bodyguard for mind (therefore I'm going to name it Mindguard). I haven't started withit yet, but maybe on tuesday, when I got more time to do that. Have you checked out the PrC that I made- the Janissary- it is vey much the bodyguard type with some of their cooler abilities functioning only when they have a 'client'.
#9 bengeldorn Oct 08, 2005 19:01:15	I don't like a fixed price for this, because someone may choose to scribe a 4th level power at higher than 7th level ML, and they are getting to do this with no additional charge. Using the laid out formula, a 4th level power at base ML would be 1400 (4x7x50) This way, if someone wanted more duration on something and wanted to scribe it at 9th ML, they would have to pay 1,800 instead of still only 1500.. IIRC, a character with the scribe tattoo feat was able to create a psionic tattoo of any power of 3rd level or lower that she knows (ExPHB p. 51). On page 171 Table 7-13: Psionic Tattoos lists Market prices to the according Power Levels.
#10 Pennarin Oct 08, 2005 19:52:49	Love the PrC! You don't need to mention the price for a 4th-level psionic tattoo since those items have their own formula written in the XPH that can be applied to any level (even though 3rd-level is the maximum allowed). The crawling tattoo, on the other hand, has no formula written down anywhere in the XPH, but reverse engineering the prices shows that a crawling tattoo is priced at 50*power lvl*ML, so a 4th-level one costs 1,400 Cp (50*4*7). You can mention that.
#11 bengeldorn Oct 10, 2005 14:39:27	Based on the Master Alchemist of Magic of Faerun, Pennarin and I tried to design a 10-level PrC instead. Thanks Pennarin for the help! Please feel free to make comments. Tattooist Tattoo crafter is a common profession in the city-states, its members mainly employed to mark slaves or to indicate rank in the military or templarate. The tattooist is a master of his trade which, besides crafting regular tattoos, is able to create psionic tattoos. Adventurers patronize tattooists before their journeys and psions often ornate their bodies with psionic tattoos containing powers they do not have access to. Being a tattoo crafter is a respectable craft, and masters of that trade have reputations reaching well beyond the confines of their city, with tattooists first among them. Their trade attracts all kind of patrons, especially considering their ability to create tattoos no common psion can. Anyone who is trained in the Way can become a tattooist. Player characters with this class trade their craft traveling from place to place, counting on the stunning creations that adorn their skin to attract patrons, while most NPC tattooists are found owning tattoo parlors in the cities or trade villagers. Sometimes NPC tattooists go on pilgrimages through the land in search of new powers and the inspiration to achieve ever greater pieces of art. Hit Points: d4. Requirements To qualify to become a tattooist, a character must fulfill all the following criteria. Skills: Profession (tattooist) 10 ranks, Psicraft 10 ranks. Feats: Scribe Tattoo, Skill Focus (Profession [tattooist]). Psionics: Able to manifest 4th-level powers. [color=DarkRed][SIZE=4][FONT=Papyrus]Class Skills:[/FONT][/SIZE][/color] The tattooist’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Appraise (Int), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Profession (tattooist) (Wis), Forgery (Int), Knowledge (psionics) (Int), and Psicraft (Int). Skill Points: 2 + Int modifier.
#12 Pennarin Oct 10, 2005 18:09:20	I like this PrC, so I'd like (more than usual) to see comments. Anyone? I thought about this for an introductory line: ”I might be able to help you acquire the edge you need over your competitors…” - Biirgaz, tattoo parlor owner
#13 Pennarin Oct 13, 2005 21:29:00	Bengeldorn, somehow your class features have been mixed up... The first 4 class features should read like this (remove what is in red and add what is in blue): Weapon and Armor Proficiency: Tattooists gain no proficiency with any weapon or armor. Exceptional Scribing (Ex): At 1st level and every two levels thereafter, psionic tattoos and crawling tattoos the tattooist creates receive a +1 resistance bonus to saves against dispelling attempts. Improved Scribe Tattoo (Ex): At 3rd level, A tattooist creating a psionic tattoo spends only 1/33 (instead of 1/25) of the tattoo’s base price in XP and uses up raw materials costing only 1/3 (instead of 1/2) of the tattoo’s base price. Create Special Tattoo (Ex): A tattooist creating a psionic tattoo spends only 1/33 (instead of 1/25) of the tattoo’s base price in XP and uses up raw materials costing only 1/3 (instead of 1/2) of the tattoo’s base price.
#14 bengeldorn Oct 13, 2005 22:20:37	Edited. Thanks for the info.