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Shadow Power in Dark Sun

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#1
Lukexsc
Aug 11, 2010 12:22:54 I was wondering about how the shadow power source would differ in Dark Sun. Divine is nonexistent, arcane is illegal and used by the sorcerer-kings, primal is what the nomads and tribes worship and psionic is as common as martial. So would shadow be different or the same as in the the base setting.
#2
big_goon
Aug 11, 2010 12:27:58 I wouldn't expect there to be any changes to the Assassin. They would be more common in Nibenay, as stated by the Templars article.
#3
FlashbackJon
Aug 11, 2010 12:44:33 Since the Shadowfell exists as the Gray and shadow creatures now find their origin there instead of the Black, I think we can safely assume that the Shadow power source remains unchanged.
#4
Pennarin
Aug 11, 2010 14:32:55 The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag.

I too expect no change for DS.
#5
tavitin
Aug 11, 2010 14:37:10
The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag.

I too expect no change for DS.

Let it be Blackguard! Let it be BLACKGUARD!
#6
big_goon
Aug 11, 2010 15:37:26

Let it be Blackguard! Let it be BLACKGUARD!

Nope, sorry. I heard it from a guy that it will be a Hand Shadow Puppet Master. He's like the Bard, except that he makes hand shadow puppets. All power to the shadow master!!!
#7
tindalosihound
Aug 11, 2010 17:23:09
Since the Shadowfell exists as the Gray and shadow creatures now find their origin there instead of the Black, I think we can safely assume that the Shadow power source remains unchanged.

My guess is, the Black is a Domain of dread in the Gray, filled with Shadow Giants, obsidian, the Maeneds (Shadar-kai), and a large hole in the universe the giants call "the hollow".

Other domains of dread would be Kalidnay, and the Thri-kreen afterlife called Kano.
#8
MusicOfCreation
Aug 11, 2010 20:06:56

Let it be Blackguard! Let it be BLACKGUARD!

Nope, sorry. I heard it from a guy that it will be a Hand Shadow Puppet Master. He's like the Bard, except that he makes hand shadow puppets. All power to the shadow master!!!

Like the hand puppet scene from Killer Klowns from Outer Space! :D
#9
Eisenritter
Aug 11, 2010 22:15:43
The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag.

I too expect no change for DS.

Wording was "Necromancer, Hexblade, and Assassin." Which I take to mean they realize the first stab at it was proper horribad.
#10
MusicOfCreation
Aug 11, 2010 22:21:08
The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag.

I too expect no change for DS.

Wording was "Necromancer, Hexblade, and Assassin." Which I take to mean they realize the first stab at it was proper horribad.

Agreed. How can you take one of the coolest prior classes/PrCs and make it so uninteresting? The worst part is that an optimized Assassin deviates so far away from the concept. When was the last time someone was assassinated by a Fullblade?
#11
celticmutt
Aug 11, 2010 23:27:03
The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag.

I too expect no change for DS.

Wording was "Necromancer, Hexblade, and Assassin." Which I take to mean they realize the first stab at it was proper horribad.

One of the WotC staff (I think Mearls) swore up and down at GenCon that the Assassin and Revenant would not be in HoS; instead they will get supplemental articles in Dragon when Heroes of the Fallen Lands and Heroes of Shadow come out.

Frankly, I hope he's wrong. I want Assassin to come out in the book, because the book stuff always gets better support than the articles.
#12
Pennarin
Aug 12, 2010 0:33:55 An Athasian Domain of Dread (the other could be Kalidnay) of deepest shadows called the Black, contained within the Gray (Shadowfell), which would have at its center Rajaat's prison of the Hollow...nnnnnice!

Plus in the novels the shadow giants are seen taking orders from right outside Rajaat's prison in the Black.

This can work. What do people think?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Lukexsc Aug 11, 2010 12:22:54	I was wondering about how the shadow power source would differ in Dark Sun. Divine is nonexistent, arcane is illegal and used by the sorcerer-kings, primal is what the nomads and tribes worship and psionic is as common as martial. So would shadow be different or the same as in the the base setting.
#2 big_goon Aug 11, 2010 12:27:58	I wouldn't expect there to be any changes to the Assassin. They would be more common in Nibenay, as stated by the Templars article.
#3 FlashbackJon Aug 11, 2010 12:44:33	Since the Shadowfell exists as the Gray and shadow creatures now find their origin there instead of the Black, I think we can safely assume that the Shadow power source remains unchanged.
#4 Pennarin Aug 11, 2010 14:32:55	The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag. I too expect no change for DS.
#5 tavitin Aug 11, 2010 14:37:10	The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag. I too expect no change for DS. Let it be Blackguard! Let it be BLACKGUARD!
#6 big_goon Aug 11, 2010 15:37:26	Let it be Blackguard! Let it be BLACKGUARD! Nope, sorry. I heard it from a guy that it will be a Hand Shadow Puppet Master. He's like the Bard, except that he makes hand shadow puppets. All power to the shadow master!!!
#7 tindalosihound Aug 11, 2010 17:23:09	Since the Shadowfell exists as the Gray and shadow creatures now find their origin there instead of the Black, I think we can safely assume that the Shadow power source remains unchanged. My guess is, the Black is a Domain of dread in the Gray, filled with Shadow Giants, obsidian, the Maeneds (Shadar-kai), and a large hole in the universe the giants call "the hollow". Other domains of dread would be Kalidnay, and the Thri-kreen afterlife called Kano.
#8 MusicOfCreation Aug 11, 2010 20:06:56	Let it be Blackguard! Let it be BLACKGUARD! Nope, sorry. I heard it from a guy that it will be a Hand Shadow Puppet Master. He's like the Bard, except that he makes hand shadow puppets. All power to the shadow master!!! Like the hand puppet scene from Killer Klowns from Outer Space! :D
#9 Eisenritter Aug 11, 2010 22:15:43	The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag. I too expect no change for DS. Wording was "Necromancer, Hexblade, and Assassin." Which I take to mean they realize the first stab at it was proper horribad.
#10 MusicOfCreation Aug 11, 2010 22:21:08	The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag. I too expect no change for DS. Wording was "Necromancer, Hexblade, and Assassin." Which I take to mean they realize the first stab at it was proper horribad. Agreed. How can you take one of the coolest prior classes/PrCs and make it so uninteresting? The worst part is that an optimized Assassin deviates so far away from the concept. When was the last time someone was assassinated by a Fullblade?
#11 celticmutt Aug 11, 2010 23:27:03	The new Shadow power source handbook will have Necromancer, Hexblade, and a third class. Assassin is already in Dragon Mag. I too expect no change for DS. Wording was "Necromancer, Hexblade, and Assassin." Which I take to mean they realize the first stab at it was proper horribad. One of the WotC staff (I think Mearls) swore up and down at GenCon that the Assassin and Revenant would not be in HoS; instead they will get supplemental articles in Dragon when Heroes of the Fallen Lands and Heroes of Shadow come out. Frankly, I hope he's wrong. I want Assassin to come out in the book, because the book stuff always gets better support than the articles.
#12 Pennarin Aug 12, 2010 0:33:55	An Athasian Domain of Dread (the other could be Kalidnay) of deepest shadows called the Black, contained within the Gray (Shadowfell), which would have at its center Rajaat's prison of the Hollow...nnnnnice! Plus in the novels the shadow giants are seen taking orders from right outside Rajaat's prison in the Black. This can work. What do people think?