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| #1bengeldornApr 28, 2006 16:06:52 | TAREK SHAMAN “The earth is the mother of all beings. She provides shelter, tools and food. While the earth has many children, the tareks are the ones the earth loves most.” — Tchylo, holy tarek shaman. Tarek shamans direct the spiritual life of their tribes, act as medicine man and teach tribal legends and traditions. They have a close connection to the element of earth and are seen as divine beings within their tribes. All tarek shamans are earth clerics. Within a tarek tribe, there never more than three shamans, rarely more than one. Tarek earth clerics will travel miles to study for a time at the feet of holy tarek shaman. Tarek shamans usually live near but outside their tribe. They serve as advisers to their tribal chiefs and leaders, and direct the spiritual life of their tribes. Hit Die: d8 REQUIREMENTS To qualify to become an earth dreamer, a character must fulfill all the following criteria. Race: Tarek Skills: Knowledge (nature) 5 ranks, Knowledge (religion) 5 ranks, Knowledge (the planes) 5 ranks Feats: Wastelander, Great Fortitude Spells: Able to cast 1st-level divine spells. Special: Must have earth as patron element, and must have studied for at least one year from a holy tarek shaman. Skill points at each Level: 2 + Int modifier. |
| #2nytcrawlrApr 29, 2006 7:45:25 | Bless Earth Weapon (Su): Once per year you can bless a masterwork stone or obsidian weapon. The blessed weapon gains an enchantment bonus equal to your tarek shaman levels. Blessing a weapon requires a ceremony that lasts 24 hours. The blessed weapon is personalized for a specific being that has to present during the ceremony. As long the creature, the weapon is blessed for, wields the weapon, the weapon is treated as a magic weapon to bypass damage reduction. If the blessed weapon is taken from the creature that is intended to wield it, it slowly looses its enchantment. Every week it looses 1 of its enchantment bonus until the bonus reaches 0 and becomes a normal stone or obsidian weapon. If the indicated creature acquires the weapon again the fading is stopped, but the weapon doesn’t gain its original bonus if it already has lost some of its bonus. This seems a bit too powerful IMO. Maybe make it a +1 enchantment bonus per every two levels the Tarek Shaman possesses? Other than that I can't see any problem other than the spell level requirement seems a little low too. I probably wouldn't bump that to no higher than 2nd level spells though. |
| #3SysaneApr 29, 2006 7:52:20 | I like the PrC and agree with Nyt on the points he made. The only problem I have is that it doesn't seem to "tarek flavored" to me. I feel that any race could enter this PrC. Maybe its just me though. |
| #4nytcrawlrApr 29, 2006 8:01:57 | The only problem I have is that it doesn't seem to "tarek flavored" to me. I feel that any race could enter this PrC. Maybe its just me though. Yeah, it definitely seems more like a template for any racial shaman as opposed to just being a PrC for Tarek shamans. Hmmmm... Maybe something along the lines of helping out their ferocity or musk odor. Or a few more Tarek-like abilities. I'm kinda drawing a blank right now and don't want to step on Penn's toes and what he might have planned for his Tarek PrC though. Double hmmm, didn't Tareks have a group fighting mechanic in 2e? I remember that they did because I gave it to them at one point and then we removed it for some reason (probably some weird balance issue that I can't recall). Maybe make the shaman grant something like that to a group of Tareks defending the homeland or something and as long as they stay within 30 feet of the Shaman. Maybe keep it at no larger than a group of two and increase that as the Shaman progresses in levels. |
| #5SysaneApr 29, 2006 8:35:31 | Yeah, it definitely seems more like a template for any racial shaman as opposed to just being a PrC for Tarek shamans. I'm working on a paragon class for tarek that stregthens their musk oder to a full-blown stench ability simliar to a troglodyte. I'll have stats for them up before the end of the weekend. |
| #6nytcrawlrApr 29, 2006 8:38:35 | On the group fighting mechanic I remember just giving them the Teamwork feat at one point. Maybe an ability that gives that to a group of two Tareks or more depending on the level of the Shaman. As far as the musk odor, I was thinking something more along the lines of reducing it so they can be more effective diplomats, hiders and such if needed, but a paragon class to increase to a more potent and harmful stench is a good idea as well. |
| #7kalthandrixApr 29, 2006 10:07:58 | Maybe something like the good'ol troglodite- something that either produces a sickened or maybe a panicked state. Of course the muskiness of this race might just come from bad hygiene habits too :D |
| #8bengeldornApr 29, 2006 19:20:19 | Well, I took most of the ideas from the DS-MC2 (p. 107). There is a extra paragraph just for tarek shamans. I agree, that if we talk about general tareks, this PrC wouldn't do the job, but a tarek tribe is allways influenced by there shamans and they have a very important role in their community. With the stuff given in that paragraph I tried to design a prestige class that would reflect the importance of the tarek shamans role. For the bless earth weapon ability, I tried to stay as close as possible to the 2nd ed. text. There a tarek shaman was able to bless a weapon once per year. A 3rd level shaman could enchant a weapon with a +1 bonus, a 4th level with a +2 bonus, a 5th level with a +3 bonus and a 6th level shaman with a +4 bonus. I want to stay with those bonuses and increase the bonus by 1 every two levels, I'm going to change the class to 10th level class, but then it could tricky with epich PrC levels. I don't know how good this ability realy is, because the shaman can use it only once per year. As far as I can see it, I have these options:
What would you like to see? For the requirements, I kept it low, because in 2nd ed. a tarek shaman could only become a 6th level earth cleric, and wasn't able to gain more levels as cleric. That's why thought, a cleric could become a shaman very early. While thinking a bit about it, I could change the class to 10-level PrC, increase the requirements, and instead of this half elemental being I could make it a full elemtal being, or at least change the type and subtype. what do you think? |
| #9squidfur-Apr 29, 2006 20:07:34 | ...While thinking a bit about it, I could change the class to 10-level PrC, increase the requirements, and instead of this half elemental being I could make it a full elemtal being, or at least change the type and subtype. what do you think? I had a thought that might keep in line with the 2e stuff... I'm of the mind that your actually keeping this pretty close to the original concept better with your 5-level scheme. Reason being, in 2e, as you mentioned, they had a 6th level max which could imply 6 stages of social level within the tribe. If we assume that clerics in training make up the first tier, then shamans of progessing levels would fill the other 5. Probably just dumb thinking on my part, but hey, what the hell. Anyhoo....I am curious where you got the half-elemental idea from, as their is really no hint even, of this happening to the tarek shamans. I'd be much more inclined to further the other abilities in some way, as well as adding more to apply this class specifically to tareks - as mentioned. And one last thing....the idea of the shaman blessing weapons once a year seems rather weak to me, seeing as how he could do much better by just taking the craft weapons/armor feat. So perhaps, just granting this as a bonus feat would suffice. |
| #10bengeldornApr 29, 2006 21:29:16 | I had a thought that might keep in line with the 2e stuff... Actually, I'm not quite sure what your position is. Do like to see a 10 level PrC or a 5 level PrC? Anyhoo....I am curious where you got the half-elemental idea from, as their is really no hint even, of this happening to the tarek shamans. I'd be much more inclined to further the other abilities in some way, as well as adding more to apply this class specifically to tareks - as mentioned. Well that would be something that came from my mind, based on the lines, where 6th level shamans are called holy shamans. I just thought it would be a good idea to mix the 2nd flavour with game mechanics. And one last thing....the idea of the shaman blessing weapons once a year seems rather weak to me, seeing as how he could do much better by just taking the craft weapons/armor feat. So perhaps, just granting this as a bonus feat would suffice. Well this was something, where the description was very specific with the mechanics. IMHO once a year isn't that thrilling, that's why I based the bonus on the shamans level. My first idea was "+1 bonus per 2 shaman levels", but this seems too weak for doing it once a year. I very much liked the idea of blessing a weapon for specific individual and the fading part, and I don't realy want to loose that. If i 'd give the shaman the feat this all would be lost. |
| #11SysaneApr 30, 2006 9:50:05 | What about an ability that ties to the tarek's racial weapon the heartpick? Maybe the shaman could have the ability to smite enemies with a specially crafted heartpick? |
| #12bengeldornApr 30, 2006 11:23:49 | Somehow I get this feeling that everbody sees the tarek shaman as just a any other tarek, but if I read the 2nd ed. write up, I don't share this opionion. I rather get the feeling that tarek shamans are the tarek's neutral pol. IMHO they differ in their bevahiour than common tareks. |