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Templars and Casting Problems

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#1
Adamaro23
Aug 23, 2010 14:55:47 So now I've read extensively over the campaign setting, and the "Templars of the Sorcerer-Kings" article. I feel I have a good understanding of what the different templars duties are, their organization and what not, but still have questions about how one can be locked away/killed for using arcane magic?

Once you say, leave a city, Draj for example when does it become "illegal" for you to cast? Is the legal way of casting require you to be in uniform and within your sorcerer-king's rule? What if a moon priest from Draj were to go to Raam, where the rule of Tectuktitlay does not extend and is dressed in typical moon priest fashion? Is he condemned for being a caster not in service to the local sorcerer-king? Or is he spared because he is obviously a moon priest? And for that matter, what if he used to be a moon priest 20 years ago, and hasn't been one since then, but still wears the uniform? How do people know he isn't still a "legal" caster? And if this is the case, why would anyone want to shed their display of their sorcerer-king if it means casting without questioning?

I understand some would not like the ties to the evil rulers, but if it was a get out of jail free card, I'm not sure why they wouldn't take advantage of that... Is anything I've said right or wrong? Please, I'd appreciate it if anyone could shed some light on the subject.
#2
rollawaythestone
Aug 23, 2010 15:10:21 The authority of the Templars doesn't extend much farther than the authority of their own Sorceror King. You may be able to get away with casting Arcane magic in a small desert village by threatening the wrath of your sorceror king, but this obviously won't work in some other SK's city. The Templar from Draj that travels to Raam may simply be arrested for openly serving the enemy. A Templar from another City State certainly isn't welcome anywhere but his own home, or the places that are under the authority of their own Sorceror King. For instance, A Balic Templar may have power in a trading outpost controlled by Balic, but depending on his intimidation, that behavior may not fly in a free village in the wastes, far from Balic's influence. A powerful Templar may be able to avoid arrest in some other City State because the consequences may be open war. Although, I don't think individual Templars are worth that much to their SK's. Unless they are looking for a reason to go to war.

tl;dr it's only a get out of jail free card in your own City State and territories controlled by your City State.
#3
big_goon
Aug 23, 2010 15:22:14 Depending on the particular Templar, such as their rank, influence, etc, some Templars will be able to visit any other city on a "diplomatic" mission. These Templars are told to declare themselves at the gates of a "friendly" city. They will most likely be escorted everywhere, given a proper place to bed down, and courteously offered food and water. They will not be allowed to defile except in self-defense. When their business is complete, the foreign templar will be asked to leave. This is obviously not true between warring city-states, such as Urik-Tyr or Nibenay-Gulg.

If you try to sneak into a foreign city without declaring yourself, and you get caught, you will most likely be charged with espionage (or soemthing of the sort) and executed. If you're lucky, you might have enough connections to be thrown out of the city (exiled) with a few bare rags and your Templar symbol.

Templars do not like foreign Templars. Sorcerer Kings do not like the playthings of other Sorcerer Kings. The city-states do not cooperate with each other. If you encounter another Templar in the Wastes, you will probably have conflicting goals and will fight.
#4
rollawaythestone
Aug 23, 2010 15:25:02 Big_Goon nailed it.
#5
Adamaro23
Aug 23, 2010 16:23:33 Wow, thanks both of you guys. It really helped.
#6
FlashbackJon
Aug 24, 2010 9:57:03 Keep in mind that Templars acting as spies in other cities are, while not common, at least likely. (Marauders of the Dune Sea, for instance, features one fairly prominently.)

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#1 Adamaro23 Aug 23, 2010 14:55:47	So now I've read extensively over the campaign setting, and the "Templars of the Sorcerer-Kings" article. I feel I have a good understanding of what the different templars duties are, their organization and what not, but still have questions about how one can be locked away/killed for using arcane magic? Once you say, leave a city, Draj for example when does it become "illegal" for you to cast? Is the legal way of casting require you to be in uniform and within your sorcerer-king's rule? What if a moon priest from Draj were to go to Raam, where the rule of Tectuktitlay does not extend and is dressed in typical moon priest fashion? Is he condemned for being a caster not in service to the local sorcerer-king? Or is he spared because he is obviously a moon priest? And for that matter, what if he used to be a moon priest 20 years ago, and hasn't been one since then, but still wears the uniform? How do people know he isn't still a "legal" caster? And if this is the case, why would anyone want to shed their display of their sorcerer-king if it means casting without questioning? I understand some would not like the ties to the evil rulers, but if it was a get out of jail free card, I'm not sure why they wouldn't take advantage of that... Is anything I've said right or wrong? Please, I'd appreciate it if anyone could shed some light on the subject.
#2 rollawaythestone Aug 23, 2010 15:10:21	The authority of the Templars doesn't extend much farther than the authority of their own Sorceror King. You may be able to get away with casting Arcane magic in a small desert village by threatening the wrath of your sorceror king, but this obviously won't work in some other SK's city. The Templar from Draj that travels to Raam may simply be arrested for openly serving the enemy. A Templar from another City State certainly isn't welcome anywhere but his own home, or the places that are under the authority of their own Sorceror King. For instance, A Balic Templar may have power in a trading outpost controlled by Balic, but depending on his intimidation, that behavior may not fly in a free village in the wastes, far from Balic's influence. A powerful Templar may be able to avoid arrest in some other City State because the consequences may be open war. Although, I don't think individual Templars are worth that much to their SK's. Unless they are looking for a reason to go to war. tl;dr it's only a get out of jail free card in your own City State and territories controlled by your City State.
#3 big_goon Aug 23, 2010 15:22:14	Depending on the particular Templar, such as their rank, influence, etc, some Templars will be able to visit any other city on a "diplomatic" mission. These Templars are told to declare themselves at the gates of a "friendly" city. They will most likely be escorted everywhere, given a proper place to bed down, and courteously offered food and water. They will not be allowed to defile except in self-defense. When their business is complete, the foreign templar will be asked to leave. This is obviously not true between warring city-states, such as Urik-Tyr or Nibenay-Gulg. If you try to sneak into a foreign city without declaring yourself, and you get caught, you will most likely be charged with espionage (or soemthing of the sort) and executed. If you're lucky, you might have enough connections to be thrown out of the city (exiled) with a few bare rags and your Templar symbol. Templars do not like foreign Templars. Sorcerer Kings do not like the playthings of other Sorcerer Kings. The city-states do not cooperate with each other. If you encounter another Templar in the Wastes, you will probably have conflicting goals and will fight.
#4 rollawaythestone Aug 23, 2010 15:25:02	Big_Goon nailed it.
#5 Adamaro23 Aug 23, 2010 16:23:33	Wow, thanks both of you guys. It really helped.
#6 FlashbackJon Aug 24, 2010 9:57:03	Keep in mind that Templars acting as spies in other cities are, while not common, at least likely. (Marauders of the Dune Sea, for instance, features one fairly prominently.)