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| #1ChimericPhaseDec 29, 2010 1:44:25 | So my group complained that while they all knew perfectly well that Athasian money is ceramics, by default they kept referring to money as "silver," "gold", and etc. They didn't want to change the money system, but they wanted words to use that rolled off the tongue better than "ceramics" After an avid discussion, this is the basics of what we settled on: 1 cp — “chit” Ceramics worth 1 copper piece equivilantly don't actually exist. Instead, slaves or the very poor might trade in chits, which are halves or pieces of broken ceramics. Since a broken ceramic cannot be redeemed at a legitimate brokerage (although some shadier businesses accept them), even half of a larger ceramic is worth less than half the face value. The result is amounts that are really too small to matter to PCs very often. 4 quartiles = 1 lith or “plate” to the uneducated – these large ceramic lithophanes have elaborate marks and/or are glazed with colorful patterns. Liths are not meant for public circulation at all and are possessed only by the wealthy. Instead, like a metal bullion, liths are for storing wealth and managing very large transactions. Average merchants are unable to exchange liths for smaller denominations. Liths are so uncommon that the slang for them literally comes from rare instances of plundered caravans transporting liths and the ignorant raiders attempting to barter the ‘plates’ as art items, unaware of their true value. On average, liths are about the size of sheet of paper and between a half to an inch thick. Some liths have a thin border of metal either for decorative or protective purposes. I just wanted to share and inquire if anyone else uses some interesting names for money in their games? Discuss! |
| #2BeraDec 29, 2010 16:47:08 | Old timey DS bumped everything down a bit, so the Ceramic piece was more like the gold of standard worlds, and each ceramic piece could be physically broken into 8 (I think) bits. Silver, Gold, Electrum, and Platnum coins were simple worth a lot more. But they also reprinted everything with DS prices on them. Another option to get away from the term gp though would be to be explicit where the coins come from. You'd just have to come up with names for things like Tyrian Sheckles or Urikite Dirham or Balican Drachmas. |
| #3Raddu76Jan 03, 2011 8:44:32 | Ceramic used to be more like Silver and could be broken into 10 bits in 2e DS. The old paradigm was: 1 Gold Piece = 10 Silver Pieces = 100 Ceramic Piece = 1000 lead beads(3e Athas.org addition) Also the price conversion of everything was as follows: If it had metal in it or was particularly difficult to make it the price stayed the same, in GP. If however; there was no metal in it the price was 1%, so something that was 1GP in D&D that didn't have metal became 1CP, etc. This was pretty much a nightmare until people made up spreadsheets and with the Ivory Triangle Boxed set there was a sheet of prices in Nibenay. |
| #4TectuktitlayJan 03, 2011 16:42:21 | I use: 1 copper piece = 1 bit 1 silver piece = 1 ceramic (can be broken into 10 bits) 1 gold piece = 1 crown (made of ceramic) 1 platinum piece = 1 silver 1 astral diamond = 1 gold Iron, lead, copper, etc, are too useful for tool-making or other material goods, and thus aren't used for coinage. When you see gold pieces changing hands, you know it is a huge sum of money. Gold and silver pieces are almost always used only for massive trades between city-states and/or merchant houses. Ceramics, bits and crowns have the same name from city-state to city-state, with the shape, color and symbols on each differing. Crowns cannot be broken up, and always have the appropriate monarch's face on them. Silver and gold pieces have names that vary from city-state to city-state. |
| #5ritorixJan 03, 2011 20:08:28 | I just kept it simple. 1 standard 4e gold piece = 1 actual gold piece = 1 ceramic How can a fire-hardened chip of clay be worth the same as a hunk of precious metal? Sorcerer-king fiat. Barely anyone sees gold these days, they barely miss it. Sort of like the Dollar. Copper and silver rarely come up in 4e, they are easily hand-waved as breaking a few bits off a ceramic to pay for the day's water or whatever. |
| #6tashalatoraJan 04, 2011 23:26:00 | I originally liked the old 2nd Ed. idea of the varied coinage, but in practice only ceramics ever actually got used. Sorcerer king fiat actually comes into play: My campaign is near Nibenay and Gulg won't accept the PCs money due to strained relations between the city-states. Much of the treasure in the ruins of Yaramuke is worthless too! |
| #7OzmodiousJan 05, 2011 13:00:58 | I just kept it simple. I have to agree with you. I loved the terms used for the coins but in all honesty keeping it simple is just an easier way of doing it. The smaller coins just are not used enough to justify a lot of work reminding players what is what when saying 1 ceramic ( 1gp) does the job. |
| #8OzmodiousJan 05, 2011 13:09:38 | This might belong in another topic but the thought hit me here so sharing In the original setting 1 gp = 100 ceramic and metal items were the same cost as what was listed in the books. So for buying metal in 4th ed would have to be like multiplying by 100 to any item players would like to buy if made from metal? Back to topic- Also I have made a banking system for my game as my players have made in good with two trading houses. For 5% they can exchange their city ceramic for traders coins and can cash it in at the same merchant house for that citystates ceramic. I thought that would make cents ( hehe sorry couldn't help myself). |
| #9tallric_kruushJan 08, 2011 11:39:58 | We play more in Eberron than anywhere else, and ended up drawing on that history in our first DS mini-campaign. We used the following names to clearly delineate the rising value in coinage, while getting away from the standard metal names. cp= Bit sp= Noble gp=Crown (This one is regional. It might be a king, a queen or something similar depending upon where you are). pp=Dragon. 'Nuff said, right? We never got anywhere near levels where higher denominations would be relevant. We never even saw any dragons, for that matter. We'd invent something else, no doubt, if need be. Maybe something related to the gods or titans. The average Athasian is as likely to run into such as they are to get their hands on an astral diamond-level currency. I'm sure these bear little resemblance to early DS canon-coinage, but we found it clean and easy to remember. |