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Wild Psionic Talents?

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#1
sinless
Jun 18, 2010 1:17:26 One of the mechanics that I have not seen mentioned from 2nd edition is that all non psionic characters had Wild Psionic Talents. I assume this rule is not being brought over, so I was wondering if anyone had any home brew rule that they were planning on using to simulate it.

As of right now I am planning on extending the natural enhancement system to give the players random (or maybe selected) psychic boons as they level.

Any other ideas?
#2
mouthymerc
Jun 18, 2010 7:24:22 Wild talents are going to be covered by the use of themes (taking the wilder theme), multi-class feats (taking multi-class feats such as those for the psionic power source from PH3), and use of the hybrid rules. By doing this you can design a character with as little or as much psionic talent as you wish. There may even be a wild talent feat or theme available.
#3
Jacek
Jun 18, 2010 8:24:12
Wild talents are going to be covered by the use of themes (taking the wilder theme), multi-class feats (taking multi-class feats such as those for the psionic power source from PH3), and use of the hybrid rules. By doing this you can design a character with as little or as much psionic talent as you wish. There may even be a wild talent feat or theme available.

I believe the feats will cover this issue, the theme can also work. In the end is all about the flavor the player adds to her character.
#4
ChrisTheS
Jun 18, 2010 9:54:59 Also, because everybody has a Will defense, everyone has some ability to fight back against psychic assault.
#5
mouthymerc
Jun 18, 2010 11:24:46 There is also the potential for a Wild Talent multi-class similar to the Spellscarred of FR. If not in the books for the setting, it could crop up in a future article in Dragon.
#6
Pennarin
Jun 18, 2010 12:25:59 The Wilder is not the wild talent theme. That role is taken by...the Wild Talent theme ;)
#7
dogbackward
Jun 18, 2010 15:19:18 I assume you mean that in older editions everybody got a minor psinoic power, or something? If you want to give everybody a semblance of psionic power, rather than just those who choose a theme or class combo, you could just allow everybody to take either one cantrip (reflavor it as psionic) or one of the Psion's class powers. They're minor effects, not incredibly powerful, and can help the flavor you seem to be after. The Psion's powers would be a bit more combat-helpful, but they're also encounter instead of at-will, so that helps.

Would that get the effect you're looking for?
#8
ludwig5
Jun 18, 2010 17:52:06 I'm plannig to use the same system used for the grandmater training, converting magic item into wild talent and assiging them randomly under certain conditions(training with a psionic master,traumatic event or a particular encounter and so on).the old psionic handbook is a good source and my players are familiar with that powers .This will also balance the scarcity of magic items
#9
Pennarin
Jun 18, 2010 18:40:27 Welcome back, Ludwig!

Dragon Magazine has recently reopened the Mind's Eye series of article, the first one describing psionic boons meant to replace items.
#10
zylo_drizzt
Jun 18, 2010 22:17:27 What? whre you hear this? show me show me.
#11
sinless
Jun 18, 2010 23:09:54
I assume you mean that in older editions everybody got a minor psinoic power, or something? If you want to give everybody a semblance of psionic power, rather than just those who choose a theme or class combo, you could just allow everybody to take either one cantrip (reflavor it as psionic) or one of the Psion's class powers. They're minor effects, not incredibly powerful, and can help the flavor you seem to be after. The Psion's powers would be a bit more combat-helpful, but they're also encounter instead of at-will, so that helps.

Would that get the effect you're looking for?

That is exactly what I am looking for and if what Ludwig says is true, then this will work all the better.

I really like this idea of giving nearly no magic items. IMO it suits the Athas much better than the way it worked in 2nd edition. It is hard to be incognito carrying a treasure trove of magic items through Urik. I hope no templar decides to detect magic.
#12
Pennarin
Jun 20, 2010 3:21:11 You need a DDI subscription.
#13
xlorep_darkhelm
Jun 20, 2010 13:04:54
I assume you mean that in older editions everybody got a minor psinoic power, or something? If you want to give everybody a semblance of psionic power, rather than just those who choose a theme or class combo, you could just allow everybody to take either one cantrip (reflavor it as psionic) or one of the Psion's class powers. They're minor effects, not incredibly powerful, and can help the flavor you seem to be after. The Psion's powers would be a bit more combat-helpful, but they're also encounter instead of at-will, so that helps.

Would that get the effect you're looking for?

That is exactly what I am looking for and if what Ludwig says is true, then this will work all the better.

I really like this idea of giving nearly no magic items. IMO it suits the Athas much better than the way it worked in 2nd edition. It is hard to be incognito carrying a treasure trove of magic items through Urik. I hope no templar decides to detect magic.

I agree. I won't have magic items be available in my DS games, most likely. Except for a few that will be treated as almost artifacts of a bygone era.
#14
silverbullet5774
Jun 20, 2010 19:54:22 I too will have a low magic campaign. I intend to use the boon system from the DMG2 and the inherent bonus system from the DMG2. There will be select magic items the players can acquire, though very rare, and some puzzles I have been working on will require a magic item or two to solve.
#15
ludwig5
Jun 22, 2010 19:10:26 Hi Pen (I know i'm a little bit late) ,it's good to see you again

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 sinless Jun 18, 2010 1:17:26	One of the mechanics that I have not seen mentioned from 2nd edition is that all non psionic characters had Wild Psionic Talents. I assume this rule is not being brought over, so I was wondering if anyone had any home brew rule that they were planning on using to simulate it. As of right now I am planning on extending the natural enhancement system to give the players random (or maybe selected) psychic boons as they level. Any other ideas?
#2 mouthymerc Jun 18, 2010 7:24:22	Wild talents are going to be covered by the use of themes (taking the wilder theme), multi-class feats (taking multi-class feats such as those for the psionic power source from PH3), and use of the hybrid rules. By doing this you can design a character with as little or as much psionic talent as you wish. There may even be a wild talent feat or theme available.
#3 Jacek Jun 18, 2010 8:24:12	Wild talents are going to be covered by the use of themes (taking the wilder theme), multi-class feats (taking multi-class feats such as those for the psionic power source from PH3), and use of the hybrid rules. By doing this you can design a character with as little or as much psionic talent as you wish. There may even be a wild talent feat or theme available. I believe the feats will cover this issue, the theme can also work. In the end is all about the flavor the player adds to her character.
#4 ChrisTheS Jun 18, 2010 9:54:59	Also, because everybody has a Will defense, everyone has some ability to fight back against psychic assault.
#5 mouthymerc Jun 18, 2010 11:24:46	There is also the potential for a Wild Talent multi-class similar to the Spellscarred of FR. If not in the books for the setting, it could crop up in a future article in Dragon.
#6 Pennarin Jun 18, 2010 12:25:59	The Wilder is not the wild talent theme. That role is taken by...the Wild Talent theme ;)
#7 dogbackward Jun 18, 2010 15:19:18	I assume you mean that in older editions everybody got a minor psinoic power, or something? If you want to give everybody a semblance of psionic power, rather than just those who choose a theme or class combo, you could just allow everybody to take either one cantrip (reflavor it as psionic) or one of the Psion's class powers. They're minor effects, not incredibly powerful, and can help the flavor you seem to be after. The Psion's powers would be a bit more combat-helpful, but they're also encounter instead of at-will, so that helps. Would that get the effect you're looking for?
#8 ludwig5 Jun 18, 2010 17:52:06	I'm plannig to use the same system used for the grandmater training, converting magic item into wild talent and assiging them randomly under certain conditions(training with a psionic master,traumatic event or a particular encounter and so on).the old psionic handbook is a good source and my players are familiar with that powers .This will also balance the scarcity of magic items
#9 Pennarin Jun 18, 2010 18:40:27	Welcome back, Ludwig! Dragon Magazine has recently reopened the Mind's Eye series of article, the first one describing psionic boons meant to replace items.
#10 zylo_drizzt Jun 18, 2010 22:17:27	What? whre you hear this? show me show me.
#11 sinless Jun 18, 2010 23:09:54	I assume you mean that in older editions everybody got a minor psinoic power, or something? If you want to give everybody a semblance of psionic power, rather than just those who choose a theme or class combo, you could just allow everybody to take either one cantrip (reflavor it as psionic) or one of the Psion's class powers. They're minor effects, not incredibly powerful, and can help the flavor you seem to be after. The Psion's powers would be a bit more combat-helpful, but they're also encounter instead of at-will, so that helps. Would that get the effect you're looking for? That is exactly what I am looking for and if what Ludwig says is true, then this will work all the better. I really like this idea of giving nearly no magic items. IMO it suits the Athas much better than the way it worked in 2nd edition. It is hard to be incognito carrying a treasure trove of magic items through Urik. I hope no templar decides to detect magic.
#12 Pennarin Jun 20, 2010 3:21:11	You need a DDI subscription.
#13 xlorep_darkhelm Jun 20, 2010 13:04:54	I assume you mean that in older editions everybody got a minor psinoic power, or something? If you want to give everybody a semblance of psionic power, rather than just those who choose a theme or class combo, you could just allow everybody to take either one cantrip (reflavor it as psionic) or one of the Psion's class powers. They're minor effects, not incredibly powerful, and can help the flavor you seem to be after. The Psion's powers would be a bit more combat-helpful, but they're also encounter instead of at-will, so that helps. Would that get the effect you're looking for? That is exactly what I am looking for and if what Ludwig says is true, then this will work all the better. I really like this idea of giving nearly no magic items. IMO it suits the Athas much better than the way it worked in 2nd edition. It is hard to be incognito carrying a treasure trove of magic items through Urik. I hope no templar decides to detect magic. I agree. I won't have magic items be available in my DS games, most likely. Except for a few that will be treated as almost artifacts of a bygone era.
#14 silverbullet5774 Jun 20, 2010 19:54:22	I too will have a low magic campaign. I intend to use the boon system from the DMG2 and the inherent bonus system from the DMG2. There will be select magic items the players can acquire, though very rare, and some puzzles I have been working on will require a magic item or two to solve.
#15 ludwig5 Jun 22, 2010 19:10:26	Hi Pen (I know i'm a little bit late) ,it's good to see you again