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#1 RCanine Feb 11, 2015 22:13:09	I'm getting ready to DM AL at a con for the first time (plenty of 4E experience, but thus far I've only been a player for 5E). I've never actually seen an AL cert—they haven't been available from anywhere I've played yet. Is there a list of certs that are out in the wild? Is there a way to identify them? I mean, if some player is so intent on cheating that he forges a cert I'm probably not going to make a stink about it, but I'm concerned about derailing a table with a powerful magical item that trivializes the experience or complicated things that cause a disruption. What do I need to know?
#2 Coredump00 Feb 11, 2015 22:23:09	if you search, there are spoiler lists for the adventures online various places. I have found them in the past, but not bookmarked. Most of the items are fairly well known (goggle of night, +1 bow, wands, etc) If someone forges a cert, I expect it would be a forgery of a legit item. So you should not have an issue with 'powerful' items. But they don't need a cert, they just need it on their logsheet, and there is really no way to know if that is forged or faked. If they have several items written down, that would be the only real clue.
#3 RCanine Feb 12, 2015 0:39:58	Yeah, I'm less concerned about fake stuff and more about complex stuff that I might need to make rulings on. Like this Harizawn thingamy.
#4 Pauper Feb 12, 2015 8:46:19	I'm not aware that there is a cert for Hazirawn -- if there was, a lot of arguing about it would be rendered moot. -- Pauper
#5 Coredump00 Feb 12, 2015 9:17:14	Well, I assume you are running Expeditions... and since this is your first 5E, its probably most likely to be one of the first 9, all of which are first tier. Which means no HotDQ magic should be in play, Even some of the LMoP would not be in play. I don't know all of the Exp magic, but the ones I know of are pretty straightforward.
#6 CahPahkah Feb 12, 2015 10:15:15	Pauper wrote:
#7 Kalani Feb 12, 2015 15:10:24	Pauper wrote:
#8 NamelessHero Feb 12, 2015 15:34:49	Lost mines of Phandelver Boots of striding and springing Staff of defense Spider staff Gauntlents of Orge power Wand of Magic Missles Ring of protection Potion of Flying Potion of Vitality +1 Breastplate (dragonguard) [grants advange on breathweapon attacks from dragons] +1 Longsword (Talon) +1 Axe (Hew) +1 Leather armor [ which, strangely enough, as far I can tell, does not appear in the module at all. Anyone who knows which page it's awarded on, please let me know].
#9 NamelessHero Feb 12, 2015 16:44:32	Adventurer's League Phlan Modules Wand of magic detection (secrets of socal keep) Ring of evasion (shadows over moonsea) Googles of Night (dues for the dead) Ring of fire resistance (courting of fire) Headband of intellect (scroll thief) Keoghtom's Ointment (drums in the marsh) Cloak of Elvenkind (tales trees tell) +1 Longbow (outlaws in the iron route) Ioun Stone of protection (tyranny in Phlan)
#10 RCanine Feb 15, 2015 10:42:17	As an example of what I was looking for in this thread, one of my players this weekend had a cert that apparently allowed him to play a Death Domain cleric. Because I didn't know such a cert even existed, I wasn't prepared to rule on it at all. It didn't cause any major problems, other than a missed RP opportunity for me to engage with the player.
#11 Kalani Feb 15, 2015 11:27:24	RCanine wrote:
#12 Kalani Feb 15, 2015 11:29:26	Allowed Rules (ALPG p3) Characters originating during the Tyranny of Dragons storyline season can use the following rules for character options: D&D basic rules (all rules except rolling ability scores and hit points, some alignment restrictions) D&D Player’s Handbook™ (all rules except rolling ability scores and hit points, some alignment restrictions) Hoard of the Dragon Queen™ appendix A Official documentation, such as a D&D Adventurers League certificate, might provide exceptions to the allowed rules.
#13 warfteiner Feb 15, 2015 13:55:06	Folks - while the Al certainly appreciates the effort put into creating these lists, please refrain from posting "Item X comes from Adventure Y"-style things.
#14 RCanine Feb 15, 2015 15:40:44	Like I said, I'm not concerned about cheating. I'm concerned about being unprepared to make a ruling on rules elements that are new or usually inaccessible to players.
#15 Kalani Feb 15, 2015 15:48:31	RCanine wrote:
#16 NamelessHero Mar 30, 2015 16:41:47	warfteiner wrote:
#17 Ravix Mar 31, 2015 3:47:25	They can easily look up the information themselves in a non-public forum.
#18 QwertyAzerty Mar 31, 2015 5:00:31	Pauper wrote:
(Reply to #17) MasterNamer	Ravix wrote:

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RCanine

Feb 11, 2015 22:13:09

I'm getting ready to DM AL at a con for the first time (plenty of 4E experience, but thus far I've only been a player for 5E).

I've never actually seen an AL cert—they haven't been available from anywhere I've played yet. Is there a list of certs that are out in the wild? Is there a way to identify them?

I mean, if some player is so intent on cheating that he forges a cert I'm probably not going to make a stink about it, but I'm concerned about derailing a table with a powerful magical item that trivializes the experience or complicated things that cause a disruption.

What do I need to know?

Coredump00

Feb 11, 2015 22:23:09

if you search, there are spoiler lists for the adventures online various places. I have found them in the past, but not bookmarked.

Most of the items are fairly well known (goggle of night, +1 bow, wands, etc) If someone forges a cert, I expect it would be a forgery of a legit item. So you should not have an issue with 'powerful' items.

But they don't need a cert, they just need it on their logsheet, and there is really no way to know if that is forged or faked. If they have several items written down, that would be the only real clue.

RCanine

Feb 12, 2015 0:39:58

Yeah, I'm less concerned about fake stuff and more about complex stuff that I might need to make rulings on. Like this Harizawn thingamy.

Pauper

Feb 12, 2015 8:46:19

I'm not aware that there is a cert for Hazirawn -- if there was, a lot of arguing about it would be rendered moot.

Pauper

Coredump00

Feb 12, 2015 9:17:14

Well, I assume you are running Expeditions... and since this is your first 5E, its probably most likely to be one of the first 9, all of which are first tier.

Which means no HotDQ magic should be in play, Even some of the LMoP would not be in play. I don't know all of the Exp magic, but the ones I know of are pretty straightforward.

CahPahkah

Feb 12, 2015 10:15:15

Pauper wrote:

Kalani

Feb 12, 2015 15:10:24

Pauper wrote:

NamelessHero

Feb 12, 2015 15:34:49

Lost mines of Phandelver

Boots of striding and springing

Staff of defense

Spider staff

Gauntlents of Orge power

Wand of Magic Missles

Ring of protection

Potion of Flying

Potion of Vitality

+1 Breastplate (dragonguard) [grants advange on breathweapon attacks from dragons]

+1 Longsword (Talon)

+1 Axe (Hew)

+1 Leather armor [ which, strangely enough, as far I can tell, does not appear in the module at all. Anyone who knows which page it's awarded on, please let me know].

NamelessHero

Feb 12, 2015 16:44:32

Adventurer's League Phlan Modules

Wand of magic detection (secrets of socal keep)

Ring of evasion (shadows over moonsea)

Googles of Night (dues for the dead)

Ring of fire resistance (courting of fire)

Headband of intellect (scroll thief)

Keoghtom's Ointment (drums in the marsh)

Cloak of Elvenkind (tales trees tell)

+1 Longbow (outlaws in the iron route)

Ioun Stone of protection (tyranny in Phlan)

#10

RCanine

Feb 15, 2015 10:42:17

As an example of what I was looking for in this thread, one of my players this weekend had a cert that apparently allowed him to play a Death Domain cleric.

Because I didn't know such a cert even existed, I wasn't prepared to rule on it at all. It didn't cause any major problems, other than a missed RP opportunity for me to engage with the player.

#11

Kalani

Feb 15, 2015 11:27:24

RCanine wrote:

#12

Kalani

Feb 15, 2015 11:29:26

Allowed Rules (ALPG p3)
Characters originating during the Tyranny of Dragons storyline season can use the following rules for character options:

D&D basic rules (all rules except rolling ability scores and hit points, some alignment restrictions)

D&D Player’s Handbook™ (all rules except rolling ability scores and hit points, some alignment restrictions)

Hoard of the Dragon Queen™ appendix A

Official documentation, such as a D&D Adventurers League certificate, might provide exceptions to the allowed rules.

#13

warfteiner

Feb 15, 2015 13:55:06

Folks - while the Al certainly appreciates the effort put into creating these lists, please refrain from posting "Item X comes from Adventure Y"-style things.

#14

RCanine

Feb 15, 2015 15:40:44

Like I said, I'm not concerned about cheating. I'm concerned about being unprepared to make a ruling on rules elements that are new or usually inaccessible to players.

#15

Kalani

Feb 15, 2015 15:48:31

RCanine wrote:

#16

NamelessHero

Mar 30, 2015 16:41:47

warfteiner wrote:

#17

Ravix

Mar 31, 2015 3:47:25

They can easily look up the information themselves in a non-public forum.

#18

QwertyAzerty

Mar 31, 2015 5:00:31

Pauper wrote:

(Reply to #17)

MasterNamer

Ravix wrote: