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#1 Stormborn20 Jul 23, 2015 14:05:05	Madness looks pretty cool http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/ALPGv3.pdf
#2 Skerrit Jul 23, 2015 14:06:59	There wil be a Madness related article on the DnDAL website in the near future.
#3 klobbermeister Jul 23, 2015 14:35:40	"If a creature with level 3 madness fails a madness saving throw, its madness level becomes 1. In this way, characters can potentially accumulate multiple forms of madness." Does the creature still have the Indefinite Madness on top of the new Short Term Madness, or just the new Short Term Madness? I'm not sure how to interpret the above sentence.
(Reply to #3) Skerrit	klobbermeister wrote:
#5 Stormborn20 Jul 23, 2015 14:50:27	Under allowed rules, it states: "Spells, race, or class features in the allowed rules that specifically reference a creature not found in the allowed rules in order for them to function properly are also an exception to these rules. " Does this mean, for instance, that a conjuratjon spell could summon other monster manual creatures? That wild surges can now summon modrons and unicorns?
#6 Skerrit Jul 23, 2015 15:01:46	Stormborn20 wrote:
#7 Stormborn20 Jul 23, 2015 15:08:03	So then that's a yes to the wild surge question, right? If your surge says that a unicorn appears, then the unicorn still appears despite not being found in any of the allowed rules. Or is it a no, since the feature doesn't specify "as found in the Monster Manual"?
#8 Skerrit Jul 23, 2015 15:12:03	Stormborn20 wrote:
#9 LefferDP Jul 23, 2015 16:38:51	I admit I'm kind of disappointed that there aren't any new class or race options.
#10 Skerrit Jul 23, 2015 16:44:52	Are you sure there are not? What's in Out of the Abyss appendix A?
#11 LefferDP Jul 23, 2015 16:47:42	I'm clearly spoiled by last season's release of a separate list of additional options. I guess I assumed that model was what they planned to use in the future.
(Reply to #10) Ainulindalion	Skerrit wrote:
#13 Skerrit Jul 23, 2015 16:49:47	Ainulindalion wrote:
#14 Skerrit Jul 23, 2015 16:51:44	LefferDP wrote:
#15 Tyranthraxus Jul 23, 2015 18:44:13	I thought I would draw attention to this: "D&D Expeditions and D&D Epics Rewards. A DM running D&D Expeditions or D&D Epics play receives a DM reward after each adventure he or she runs for a group. Consult each adventure for the rewards earned. " to the EE version: "D&D Expeditions and D&D Epics Rewards. A DM running D&D Expeditions or D&D Epics play receives a DM reward after each adventure he or she runs for a group. A double-length adventure (typically 6–8 hours long) earns double this reward. The DM receives 200 XP and 100 gp times the tier of play (200 XP / 100 gp for levels 1–4, 400 XP / 200 gp for levels 5–10, 600 XP / 300 gp for levels 11–16, and 800 XP / 400 gp for levels 17–20) and 10 downtime days for each adventure completed. " As Im mostly an AL DM. (Ive played maybe 4 games over the past year ) this interests me. Im wondering why it was deviated from what it was in EE.
(Reply to #15) TheBreen	Tyranthraxus wrote:
#17 Tyranthraxus Jul 23, 2015 19:06:18	Really? I thought the EE way was easier. I run a 1-4 game. I know I get 200 exp and 100 gold for my dm credit character. I run a 5-10, I get 400exp and 200 gold. Its spelled out clearly. Can you imagine the issues there might be if for whatever reason the powers that be fail to include that sentence that lists the dm rewards? I actually think its more work for the writers who have to remember to include the dm rewards sentence in the scenario, I certainly dont think its simpler.
(Reply to #17) Ainulindalion	Tyranthraxus wrote:
#19 Qzoo Jul 23, 2015 19:14:06	I could really use the printer friendly version. I actually prefer to read on paper, plus I'm putting in it's own coil binder anyway.
#20 Oraibi Jul 23, 2015 19:18:54	Qzoo, here's where you can download the printer-friendly version. http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/events/adventurers-league-resources
(Reply to #14) Coredump00	Skerrit wrote:
#22 Tyranthraxus Jul 23, 2015 20:05:56	Im trying so hard not to read it here at work, but its proving an impossible mission!
#23 Kalani Jul 23, 2015 22:11:17	Coredump00 wrote:
#24 LefferDP Jul 24, 2015 6:31:47	Kalani wrote:
(Reply to #23) Sorsohka	Kalani wrote:
(Reply to #25) Skerrit	Sorsohka wrote:
#27 Skerrit Jul 24, 2015 7:43:52	LefferDP wrote:
#28 Sorsohka Jul 24, 2015 7:51:14	Thanks Skerrit. for the Sword Coast Adventurer Guide, AL admin got 2 months to read it and review it in order to include it (fully or partially) in season 4, If you need help you can ask me I'll gladly help you with the math analysis to compare the different synergie of different combo between the PHB and the SCAG. EDIT: when are we legally allowed to start creating a character using season3 origins?
(Reply to #28) Skerrit	Sorsohka wrote:
#30 Mirtek Jul 24, 2015 7:57:49	It will not be, we do not change rules midseason
#31 Kalani Jul 24, 2015 7:58:59	Which is interesting: as the current season goes until end of August meaning we have overlap on the rulesets
#32 Skerrit Jul 24, 2015 8:08:51	Mirtek wrote:
#33 Skerrit Jul 24, 2015 8:09:19	Kalani wrote:
#34 Skerrit Jul 24, 2015 8:53:57	More on Season Three madness: http://dndadventurersleague.org/the-safety-of-a-shattered-mind/
#35 zingbobco000 Jul 24, 2015 9:33:45	Tyranthraxus wrote:
(Reply to #34) Sorsohka	Skerrit wrote:
#37 ZHDarkstar Jul 24, 2015 15:40:42	Skerrit wrote:
(Reply to #37) Skerrit	ZHDarkstar wrote:
#39 Enevhar_Aldarion Jul 24, 2015 22:56:59	Skerrit wrote:
#40 Mirtek Jul 25, 2015 0:47:30	Now wie have to pray that no one hacks the site and adds winter clothes. Could you imagine the chaos? Oh the humanity!
#41 Knight_Marshal Jul 25, 2015 6:51:49	I will play it like any Call of Cthulhu game, stay in the back, close my eyes, cover my ears and burn anything made of paper.
#42 abanathie Jul 26, 2015 0:02:08	Knight_Marshal wrote:

Post/Author/DateTime

Post

Stormborn20

Jul 23, 2015 14:05:05

Madness looks pretty cool

http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/ALPGv3.pdf

Skerrit

Jul 23, 2015 14:06:59

There wil be a Madness related article on the DnDAL website in the near future.

klobbermeister

Jul 23, 2015 14:35:40

"If a creature with level 3 madness fails a madness saving throw, its madness level becomes 1. In this way, characters can potentially accumulate multiple forms of madness."

Does the creature still have the Indefinite Madness *on top of* the new Short Term Madness, or just the new Short Term Madness? I'm not sure how to interpret the above sentence.

(Reply to #3)

Skerrit

klobbermeister wrote:

Stormborn20

Jul 23, 2015 14:50:27

Under allowed rules, it states:

"Spells, race, or class features in the allowed rules that specifically reference a creature not found in the allowed rules in order for them to function properly are also an exception to these rules. "

Does this mean, for instance, that a conjuratjon spell could summon other monster manual creatures? That wild surges can now summon modrons and unicorns?

Skerrit

Jul 23, 2015 15:01:46

Stormborn20 wrote:

Stormborn20

Jul 23, 2015 15:08:03

So then that's a yes to the wild surge question, right? If your surge says that a unicorn appears, then the unicorn still appears despite not being found in any of the allowed rules.

Or is it a no, since the feature doesn't specify "as found in the Monster Manual"?

Skerrit

Jul 23, 2015 15:12:03

Stormborn20 wrote:

LefferDP

Jul 23, 2015 16:38:51

I admit I'm kind of disappointed that there aren't any new class or race options.

#10

Skerrit

Jul 23, 2015 16:44:52

Are you sure there are not? What's in Out of the Abyss appendix A?

#11

LefferDP

Jul 23, 2015 16:47:42

I'm clearly spoiled by last season's release of a separate list of additional options. I guess I assumed that model was what they planned to use in the future.

(Reply to #10)

Ainulindalion

Skerrit wrote:

#13

Skerrit

Jul 23, 2015 16:49:47

Ainulindalion wrote:

#14

Skerrit

Jul 23, 2015 16:51:44

LefferDP wrote:

#15

Tyranthraxus

Jul 23, 2015 18:44:13

I thought I would draw attention to this:

"D&D Expeditions and D&D Epics Rewards. A DM running D&D Expeditions or D&D Epics play receives a DM reward after each adventure he or she runs for a group. Consult each adventure for the rewards earned. "

to the EE version:

"D&D Expeditions and D&D Epics Rewards. A DM running D&D Expeditions or D&D Epics play receives a DM reward after each adventure he or she runs for a group. A double-length adventure (typically 6–8 hours long) earns double this reward. The DM receives 200 XP and 100 gp times the tier of play (200 XP / 100 gp for levels 1–4, 400 XP / 200 gp for levels 5–10, 600 XP / 300 gp for levels 11–16, and 800 XP / 400 gp for levels 17–20) and 10 downtime days for each adventure completed. "

As Im mostly an AL DM. (Ive played maybe 4 games over the past year ) this interests me. Im wondering why it was deviated from what it was in EE.

(Reply to #15)

TheBreen

Tyranthraxus wrote:

#17

Tyranthraxus

Jul 23, 2015 19:06:18

Really?

I thought the EE way was easier.

I run a 1-4 game. I know I get 200 exp and 100 gold for my dm credit character. I run a 5-10, I get 400exp and 200 gold. Its spelled out clearly.

Can you imagine the issues there might be if for whatever reason the powers that be fail to include that sentence that lists the dm rewards? I actually think its more work for the writers who have to remember to include the dm rewards sentence in the scenario, I certainly dont think its simpler.

(Reply to #17)

Ainulindalion

Tyranthraxus wrote:

#19

Qzoo

Jul 23, 2015 19:14:06

I could really use the printer friendly version.

I actually prefer to read on paper, plus I'm putting in it's own coil binder anyway.

#20

Oraibi

Jul 23, 2015 19:18:54

Qzoo, here's where you can download the printer-friendly version.

http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/events/adventurers-league-resources

(Reply to #14)

Coredump00

Skerrit wrote:

#22

Tyranthraxus

Jul 23, 2015 20:05:56

Im trying so hard not to read it here at work, but its proving an impossible mission!

#23

Kalani

Jul 23, 2015 22:11:17

Coredump00 wrote:

#24

LefferDP

Jul 24, 2015 6:31:47

Kalani wrote:

(Reply to #23)

Sorsohka

Kalani wrote:

(Reply to #25)

Skerrit

Sorsohka wrote:

#27

Skerrit

Jul 24, 2015 7:43:52

LefferDP wrote:

#28

Sorsohka

Jul 24, 2015 7:51:14

Thanks Skerrit.

for the Sword Coast Adventurer Guide, AL admin got 2 months to read it and review it in order to include it (fully or partially) in season 4, If you need help you can ask me I'll gladly help you with the math analysis to compare the different synergie of different combo between the PHB and the SCAG.

EDIT: when are we legally allowed to start creating a character using season3 origins?

(Reply to #28)

Skerrit

Sorsohka wrote:

#30

Mirtek

Jul 24, 2015 7:57:49

It will not be, we do not change rules midseason

#31

Kalani

Jul 24, 2015 7:58:59

Which is interesting: as the current season goes until end of August meaning we have overlap on the rulesets

#32

Skerrit

Jul 24, 2015 8:08:51

Mirtek wrote:

#33

Skerrit

Jul 24, 2015 8:09:19

Kalani wrote:

#34

Skerrit

Jul 24, 2015 8:53:57

More on Season Three madness: http://dndadventurersleague.org/the-safety-of-a-shattered-mind/

#35

zingbobco000

Jul 24, 2015 9:33:45

Tyranthraxus wrote:

(Reply to #34)

Sorsohka

Skerrit wrote:

#37

ZHDarkstar

Jul 24, 2015 15:40:42

Skerrit wrote:

(Reply to #37)

Skerrit

ZHDarkstar wrote:

#39

Enevhar_Aldarion

Jul 24, 2015 22:56:59

Skerrit wrote:

#40

Mirtek

Jul 25, 2015 0:47:30

Now wie have to pray that no one hacks the site and adds winter clothes. Could you imagine the chaos? Oh the humanity!

#41

Knight_Marshal

Jul 25, 2015 6:51:49

I will play it like any Call of Cthulhu game, stay in the back, close my eyes, cover my ears and burn anything made of paper.

#42

abanathie

Jul 26, 2015 0:02:08

Knight_Marshal wrote: