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#1 Tyranthraxus Apr 21, 2015 0:11:25	Religons in Mulmaster: Whilst the admins are due to release a Overview article on Mulmaster soon (as well as a new map apparently), I thought Id address the main faiths that exist in Mulmaster (We actually get some variety of sorts!) Ill look at them one at a time starting with Bane (probably the biggest Faith in Mulmaster) ********* Bane LE God of Tyranny Bane was originally a mortal who after challenging Jergal got first choice of portfolio after he had beaten Jergal. Bane's faith has undergone a lot of changes, his faith going from one that rewarded those who used violence to claim position to a faith where advanced is done more out of the limelight. Bane was 'killed' in the Time of Troubles event, but had actually forseen this event and used his Demigod son , Iyachtu Xvim to be reborn. The Black Altar, the foremost holiest of places for the Church of Bane is found in Mulmaster.
#2 Skerrit Apr 21, 2015 6:48:17	Expect to see these in modern day Mulmaster (pulled from the upcoming blog post): Temples Black Lord’s Altar – Bane (Primary Religion) High House of Hurting – Lovitar (Quite popular among the rich; across from the Wicked Tart café) High Hall of Swords – Tempus (popular among the Watch and the Soldiery) Tower of Mysteries – Mystra (technically the headquarters of the Brotherhood of the Cloaks, and the worship of Mystra is illegal for all not given special dispensation) Gate of Good Fortune – Tymora (This is a casino) House Built on Gold – Waukeen (Recently reopened due to efforts of the iron merchants and miners guild) Shrines Shrine to Lathander (Popular with the poor) Shrine to Malar Shrine to Mask (Oddly public) Shrine to Talos (on the beach) The Last Drop - Shrine to Umberlee (Largest shrine in Mulmaster, tended by Rydah the Storm Smoother)
#3 Kalani Apr 21, 2015 7:33:28	Embers of Elmwood (DDEX2-2) also details an exceptionally small hospital run by clerics of Illmatar (iirc) -although I forget the name of it. The buildings dimensions are impossibly small however (the clerics dorms are 5' squares shared by two), and the entire building is only 30' long (if memory serves)
#4 Skerrit Apr 21, 2015 7:46:25	True, but the hospise is staffed by Illmatari out of the Monastary of the Yellow Rose, its not a shrine or temple.
#5 Kalani Apr 21, 2015 7:57:16	I wasn't aware of that detail (not a major realms buff). All I remembered was seeing the hospice. Figured the clerics had to come from somewhere so I mentioned it in case it was forgotten How far from Mulmaster is the monestary?
#6 Pauper Apr 21, 2015 8:37:07	Quite far -- it's located in an arm of the Earthspur Mountains separated from Mulmaster by the Glacier of the White Worm (as of 3E Forgotten Realms). The geography of the Realms may have changed somewhat since then, but unless the monastery has actually moved, it's not unreasonable for the hospice to have cells for the visiting monks and clerics to sleep in, as the journey though the mountains would be neither quick nor easy (which would suit the Ilmatari just fine, of course). -- Pauper
(Reply to #3) TheBreen	Kalani wrote:
#8 Kalani Apr 21, 2015 8:56:44	Hospice = hospital (in pseudo-medieval terms). By todays standards, there is a major difference between them - but back then, not so much. And yes, it was the House of Suffering I was thinking of (I was away from my expeditions at the time and couldn't recall its name). Still, it is theoretically feasable for an acolyte of Illmater to gain spellcasting services from their breatheren at the House of Suffering (even though no actual temple/shrine exists). Do we have an official stance on whether Acolytes of Illmater could use their background feature at the house of suffering? Non-realms savvy DMs may mistake the Hospice for a temple (or believe it is attached to a nearby one), so there is likely to be some table variation about this regardless. I know I considered it a pseudo-temple/hospice combined prior to Skerrits comment.
#9 Pauper Apr 21, 2015 9:09:32	Since most of the residents of the Monastery of the Yellow Rose are monks rather than clerics, I'd suspect that most of the Ilmatari who serve at the House of Suffering don't have spellcasting ability (apart from some few who might be high enough level in the Way of the Four Elements to have some ki-derived spellcasting, though none of those spells are on the list of spellcasting services). It should be noted that the monks of the Monastery of the Yellow Rose are noted in the Player's Handbook -- they're the Disciples of Saint Sollars the Twice-Martyred. (Monastic Orders sidebar, PH, p.81) Again, if this has changed from prior FR sources, it should be noted by the admins. -- Pauper
#10 Kalani Apr 21, 2015 9:11:16	Good to know. Thanks for the update - as I said, not realms-savvy (I am an expert on Krynn however - owning most of the Krynn sourcebooks from all editions, and have read over half of the 170 odd novels).
(Reply to #9) TheBreen	Pauper wrote:
(Reply to #2) Coredump00	Skerrit wrote:
(Reply to #10) Pauper	Kalani wrote:
#14 Kalani Apr 21, 2015 9:54:59	From what I hear - the realms is a little harder to become an expert on. Most of Dragonlance occurs in a relatively small region in comparison. Ansalon end to end is probably as large as western and central Faerun, and it only has one religion and 24 gods to speak of (21 main gods, Mina, Chaos and the High God). There is also a fractional number of "organizations", and major settlements. So yeah, much easier to familiarize oneself with Krynn.
#15 Skerrit Apr 21, 2015 11:10:49	Pauper wrote:
#16 Tyranthraxus Apr 21, 2015 17:58:48	Question: I was going to go over Savras next? (Hes not a particuarly well known God) but the write up in in the early Expeditions for Season 2 lists him with a temple present in Mulmaster. Faiths that can call upon spellcasting services in Mulmaster include the following: Bane, Leira, Loviatar, Mystra, Savras, Tempus, Tymora, Velsharoon, and Waukeen. Ive noticed that neither Leira (who would probably not have a Temple everyone would know about) or Savras are on that list of yours , Skerrit.
#17 Skerrit Apr 21, 2015 18:16:09	The Tower of Mysteries serves those who worship Leira, Velsharoon, Savras, and Mystra. Same place.
#18 Tyranthraxus Apr 21, 2015 19:27:22	Excellent.
#19 BRJN Apr 22, 2015 17:47:32	Pauper wrote:
#20 SpedGuy Apr 22, 2015 18:29:32	I was so happy to see Waukeen on that list. My favorite 2e character was a Goldeneye, and this gave me a chance to dust her off for a new edition incarnation. Of course, I'm not an acolyte so it won't matter much mechanically but...
#21 LefferDP Apr 22, 2015 20:01:08	SpedGuy wrote:
(Reply to #21) SpedGuy	LefferDP wrote:
#23 Tyranthraxus Apr 22, 2015 21:19:12	Im glad that Leira is back unmurdered by Cyric + Mask. Mulmaster has need of some mystery.
#24 LefferDP Apr 23, 2015 6:26:09	SpedGuy wrote:
(Reply to #17) AlHazred	Skerrit wrote:
#26 Skerrit Apr 23, 2015 11:17:03	Tower of Mysteries and Tower of Arcane might are part of the same complex (just different towers). I'll spell it out more in the write-up. I did mean Velsharoon. Not all the FR deities are in the PHB, but I have been told by WOTC that Velsharoon's shrine is indeed there.
#27 AlHazred Apr 23, 2015 13:21:49	Skerrit wrote:
#28 LefferDP Apr 23, 2015 13:27:43	AlHazred wrote:
#29 Ainulindalion Apr 23, 2015 14:24:58	I remember reading something about Azuth's divine essense going into Asmodeus when Mystra was 'killed' to cause the Spellplague. (All the gods of magic broke with her death) But I may be misremembering.
#30 Skerrit Apr 23, 2015 15:16:35	LefferDP wrote:
#31 Ainulindalion Apr 23, 2015 16:05:15	Also, Life Domain as the only option for the Maiden of Pain? Isn't there something we can do about this? And don't say run an Epic at a major convention to get Death Domain access, cause that's really limited, assuming that it's even granted for other ones since last year's GenCon.
#32 Skerrit Apr 23, 2015 16:17:38	The optional Death domain from the DMG is only allowed for those with the special certificate, so until WOTC releases some sort of update book that gives more info on FR gods, and if it gives her additional domains, there is nothing to do. The Admins are not allowed to invent new rules except in situations required for the nature of OP. In this case the lack of Lovitar's domains is sort of the quetion that would need to be remedied by WOTC itself. Greg Marks DnDAL Associate Resource Manager
(Reply to #31) Pauper	Ainulindalion wrote:
(Reply to #33) Ainulindalion	Pauper wrote:
(Reply to #34) Pauper	Ainulindalion wrote:
#36 BRJN Apr 24, 2015 16:08:43	Ainulindalion wrote:
#37 FatherLiir Apr 26, 2015 9:55:05	How would followers of Talos' servents be treated by Talos' clerics Say i had a LE Cleric of Auril who openly worshiped her and she walked past Talos' or Malar's Shrine? Would she be mocked or hailed as a friend?
#38 Mirtek Apr 26, 2015 10:06:23	FatherLiir wrote:
#39 Oraibi Apr 26, 2015 19:54:42	Spoilers for DDEX 2-2 The Ilmater folks who work in the House of Suffering are statted up as commoners.
(Reply to #39) AlHazred	Oraibi wrote:
#41 Tyranthraxus Apr 27, 2015 18:40:59	I wouldnt ever expect friendship from a Talos Priest anyway. Generally they are loner types who are in the town square crying out about the 'Destruction' coming to all unbelievers and the like. They generally dont get on well with .. anybody. Also in regards to the lack of Azuth. Generally a shrine to him is found wherever there is a Temple to Mystra. Its interesting in this case his .. rival , Savras gets his own temple. Savras and Azuth were at one point rivals battling it out to become the God of Wizards until Savras slipped up and was trapped in a magic item. Free now by the looks of it.
#42 LefferDP Apr 27, 2015 19:15:03	Tyranthraxus wrote:
#43 Tyranthraxus Apr 27, 2015 23:51:38	Yeah. I read a bit more and it said he was released. Either way its good to see Savras has one over Azuth. Maybe its the City of Mulmaster who want to know what their enemies have planned by placating the God of Divination magic.

Post/Author/DateTime

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Tyranthraxus

Apr 21, 2015 0:11:25

Religons in Mulmaster:

Whilst the admins are due to release a Overview article on Mulmaster soon (as well as a new map apparently), I thought Id address the main faiths that exist in Mulmaster (We actually get some variety of sorts!)

Ill look at them one at a time starting with Bane (probably the biggest Faith in Mulmaster)

*********

Bane LE

God of Tyranny

Bane was originally a mortal who after challenging Jergal got first choice of portfolio after he had beaten Jergal. Bane's faith has undergone a lot of changes, his faith going from one that rewarded those who used violence to claim position to a faith where advanced is done more out of the limelight.

Bane was 'killed' in the Time of Troubles event, but had actually forseen this event and used his Demigod son , Iyachtu Xvim to be reborn.

The Black Altar, the foremost holiest of places for the Church of Bane is found in Mulmaster.

Skerrit

Apr 21, 2015 6:48:17

Expect to see these in modern day Mulmaster (pulled from the upcoming blog post):

Temples

Black Lord’s Altar – Bane (Primary Religion)
High House of Hurting – Lovitar (Quite popular among the rich; across from the Wicked Tart café)
High Hall of Swords – Tempus (popular among the Watch and the Soldiery)
Tower of Mysteries – Mystra (technically the headquarters of the Brotherhood of the Cloaks, and the worship of Mystra is illegal for all not given special dispensation)
Gate of Good Fortune – Tymora (This is a casino)
House Built on Gold – Waukeen (Recently reopened due to efforts of the iron merchants and miners guild)

Shrines

Shrine to Lathander (Popular with the poor)
Shrine to Malar
Shrine to Mask (Oddly public)
Shrine to Talos (on the beach)
The Last Drop - Shrine to Umberlee (Largest shrine in Mulmaster, tended by Rydah the Storm Smoother)

Kalani

Apr 21, 2015 7:33:28

Embers of Elmwood (DDEX2-2) also details an exceptionally small hospital run by clerics of Illmatar (iirc) -although I forget the name of it.

The buildings dimensions are impossibly small however (the clerics dorms are 5' squares shared by two), and the entire building is only 30' long (if memory serves)

Skerrit

Apr 21, 2015 7:46:25

True, but the hospise is staffed by Illmatari out of the Monastary of the Yellow Rose, its not a shrine or temple.

Kalani

Apr 21, 2015 7:57:16

I wasn't aware of that detail (not a major realms buff). All I remembered was seeing the hospice. Figured the clerics had to come from somewhere so I mentioned it in case it was forgotten

How far from Mulmaster is the monestary?

Pauper

Apr 21, 2015 8:37:07

Quite far -- it's located in an arm of the Earthspur Mountains separated from Mulmaster by the Glacier of the White Worm (as of 3E Forgotten Realms).

The geography of the Realms may have changed somewhat since then, but unless the monastery has actually moved, it's not unreasonable for the hospice to have cells for the visiting monks and clerics to sleep in, as the journey though the mountains would be neither quick nor easy (which would suit the Ilmatari just fine, of course).

Pauper

(Reply to #3)

TheBreen

Kalani wrote:

Kalani

Apr 21, 2015 8:56:44

Hospice = hospital (in pseudo-medieval terms). By todays standards, there is a major difference between them - but back then, not so much.

And yes, it was the House of Suffering I was thinking of (I was away from my expeditions at the time and couldn't recall its name).

Still, it is theoretically feasable for an acolyte of Illmater to gain spellcasting services from their breatheren at the House of Suffering (even though no actual temple/shrine exists).

Do we have an official stance on whether Acolytes of Illmater could use their background feature at the house of suffering?

Non-realms savvy DMs may mistake the Hospice for a temple (or believe it is attached to a nearby one), so there is likely to be some table variation about this regardless. I know I considered it a pseudo-temple/hospice combined prior to Skerrits comment.

Pauper

Apr 21, 2015 9:09:32

Since most of the residents of the Monastery of the Yellow Rose are monks rather than clerics, I'd suspect that most of the Ilmatari who serve at the House of Suffering don't have spellcasting ability (apart from some few who might be high enough level in the Way of the Four Elements to have some ki-derived spellcasting, though none of those spells are on the list of spellcasting services).

It should be noted that the monks of the Monastery of the Yellow Rose are noted in the Player's Handbook -- they're the Disciples of Saint Sollars the Twice-Martyred. (Monastic Orders sidebar, PH, p.81)

Again, if this has changed from prior FR sources, it should be noted by the admins.

Pauper

#10

Kalani

Apr 21, 2015 9:11:16

Good to know. Thanks for the update - as I said, not realms-savvy (I am an expert on Krynn however - owning most of the Krynn sourcebooks from all editions, and have read over half of the 170 odd novels).

(Reply to #9)

TheBreen

Pauper wrote:

(Reply to #2)

Coredump00

Skerrit wrote:

(Reply to #10)

Pauper

Kalani wrote:

#14

Kalani

Apr 21, 2015 9:54:59

From what I hear - the realms is a little harder to become an expert on. Most of Dragonlance occurs in a relatively small region in comparison.

Ansalon end to end is probably as large as western and central Faerun, and it only has one religion and 24 gods to speak of (21 main gods, Mina, Chaos and the High God).

There is also a fractional number of "organizations", and major settlements. So yeah, much easier to familiarize oneself with Krynn.

#15

Skerrit

Apr 21, 2015 11:10:49

Pauper wrote:

#16

Tyranthraxus

Apr 21, 2015 17:58:48

Question:

I was going to go over Savras next? (Hes not a particuarly well known God) but the write up in in the early Expeditions for Season 2 lists him with a temple present in Mulmaster.

Faiths that can call upon spellcasting services in Mulmaster include the following: Bane, Leira, Loviatar, Mystra, Savras, Tempus, Tymora, Velsharoon, and Waukeen.

Ive noticed that neither Leira (who would probably not have a Temple everyone would know about) or Savras are on that list of yours , Skerrit.

#17

Skerrit

Apr 21, 2015 18:16:09

The Tower of Mysteries serves those who worship Leira, Velsharoon, Savras, and Mystra. Same place.

#18

Tyranthraxus

Apr 21, 2015 19:27:22

Excellent.

#19

BRJN

Apr 22, 2015 17:47:32

Pauper wrote:

#20

SpedGuy

Apr 22, 2015 18:29:32

I was so happy to see Waukeen on that list. My favorite 2e character was a Goldeneye, and this gave me a chance to dust her off for a new edition incarnation. Of course, I'm not an acolyte so it won't matter much mechanically but...

#21

LefferDP

Apr 22, 2015 20:01:08

SpedGuy wrote:

(Reply to #21)

SpedGuy

LefferDP wrote:

#23

Tyranthraxus

Apr 22, 2015 21:19:12

Im glad that Leira is back unmurdered by Cyric + Mask. Mulmaster has need of some mystery.

#24

LefferDP

Apr 23, 2015 6:26:09

SpedGuy wrote:

(Reply to #17)

AlHazred

Skerrit wrote:

#26

Skerrit

Apr 23, 2015 11:17:03

Tower of Mysteries and Tower of Arcane might are part of the same complex (just different towers). I'll spell it out more in the write-up. I did mean Velsharoon. Not all the FR deities are in the PHB, but I have been told by WOTC that Velsharoon's shrine is indeed there.

#27

AlHazred

Apr 23, 2015 13:21:49

Skerrit wrote:

#28

LefferDP

Apr 23, 2015 13:27:43

AlHazred wrote:

#29

Ainulindalion

Apr 23, 2015 14:24:58

I remember reading something about Azuth's divine essense going into Asmodeus when Mystra was 'killed' to cause the Spellplague. (All the gods of magic broke with her death) But I may be misremembering.

#30

Skerrit

Apr 23, 2015 15:16:35

LefferDP wrote:

#31

Ainulindalion

Apr 23, 2015 16:05:15

Also, Life Domain as the only option for the Maiden of Pain? Isn't there something we can do about this?

And don't say run an Epic at a major convention to get Death Domain access, cause that's really limited, assuming that it's even granted for other ones since last year's GenCon.

#32

Skerrit

Apr 23, 2015 16:17:38

The optional Death domain from the DMG is only allowed for those with the special certificate, so until WOTC releases some sort of update book that gives more info on FR gods, and if it gives her additional domains, there is nothing to do. The Admins are not allowed to invent new rules except in situations required for the nature of OP. In this case the lack of Lovitar's domains is sort of the quetion that would need to be remedied by WOTC itself.

Greg Marks

DnDAL Associate Resource Manager

(Reply to #31)

Pauper

Ainulindalion wrote:

(Reply to #33)

Ainulindalion

Pauper wrote:

(Reply to #34)

Pauper

Ainulindalion wrote:

#36

BRJN

Apr 24, 2015 16:08:43

Ainulindalion wrote:

#37

FatherLiir

Apr 26, 2015 9:55:05

How would followers of Talos' servents be treated by Talos' clerics

Say i had a LE Cleric of Auril who openly worshiped her and she walked past Talos' or Malar's Shrine? Would she be mocked or hailed as a friend?

#38

Mirtek

Apr 26, 2015 10:06:23

FatherLiir wrote:

#39

Oraibi

Apr 26, 2015 19:54:42

Spoilers for DDEX 2-2

The Ilmater folks who work in the House of Suffering are statted up as commoners.

(Reply to #39)

AlHazred

Oraibi wrote:

#41

Tyranthraxus

Apr 27, 2015 18:40:59

I wouldnt ever expect friendship from a Talos Priest anyway. Generally they are loner types who are in the town square crying out about the 'Destruction' coming to all unbelievers and the like. They generally dont get on well with .. anybody.

Also in regards to the lack of Azuth. Generally a shrine to him is found wherever there is a Temple to Mystra.

Its interesting in this case his .. rival , Savras gets his own temple. Savras and Azuth were at one point rivals battling it out to become the God of Wizards until Savras slipped up and was trapped in a magic item. Free now by the looks of it.

#42

LefferDP

Apr 27, 2015 19:15:03

Tyranthraxus wrote:

#43

Tyranthraxus

Apr 27, 2015 23:51:38

Yeah. I read a bit more and it said he was released. Either way its good to see Savras has one over Azuth. Maybe its the City of Mulmaster who want to know what their enemies have planned by placating the God of Divination magic.