An IRL Arcane user's view on the warlock

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#1

pigknight

Mar 01, 2009 0:09:39
I've been in the church of Satan for nearly 2 years now, and thus I have somewhat of an insider's view on arcane training itself. After reading through some of the boards' discussions on arcane skill, I'd like to clarify some things.

"Arcane power", or "pew pewing people with pew pews" (they're the same thing, just different levels of awesome), a concept discovered a few thousand years ago by acolytes, is a latent ability that is present in all sentient beings that are capable of fine manipulation, and it is no more supernatural or inexplicable than martial abilities. Sure, there is still strong skepticism about its existence, and I myself was a skeptic for a while, but that was an attitude that I couldn't uphold when I had discovered a strong vibrating sensation inside my hands while pew pewing bunnies.

That's not to say that arcane skill is very similar to martial. The movies where Moses single handedly takes out an entire enemy army or Merlin chops giants apart are extreme exaggerations. Arcane skill is practiced for improved combat ability, the application of violence, in combat, and cannot be projected outside the body without the aid of a pew pewing decive (also known as an implement). Arcane skill is simply an alternative source from where a warrior can draw power, as you can see from the soldiers who can demolish an entire bunker with just one pew pew.

I don't think Arcane should be a power source. Arcane training is simply a weapon, and is not the application in itself. Calling a power source "arcane" is akin to saying that Regdar the Fighter uses the "slashy" power source. Pew pews don't shoot by themselves. We have to move them with our pew pewing. In 3.5e, the pew pew Sorcerer was closer to an Arcane-user than the wizard, and the development team should look back at that when doing the Warlock for 4e.

I understand that D&D is a fantasy game and needs not be an accurate depiction of what RL pew pewers do, but my fantasy warlock is the buff guy in armor with a high strength score because he doesn't need brain power to pew pew someone's back.

Bottom line, warlocks cannot be classified as benefiting from one single power source.

(Yes it's a satire.)
#2

birdursh

Mar 01, 2009 0:23:37
You only made two mistakes. One is that warriors do use the "slashy" power source, also known as Martial. The other is I think you chose the wrong area to post it in, much like the much less realistic monk post. Other than that, I agree with you 100%.
#3

pigknight

Mar 01, 2009 0:24:44
Well the fighter and monk one's are here too so...
#4

birdursh

Mar 01, 2009 0:27:44
Yeah, I just saw them. That'll teach me to read from top to bottom.
#5

sfdragon

Mar 01, 2009 0:52:02
not even remotely entertaining.

neiter was the monk
#6

space_dragon

Mar 01, 2009 0:52:32
You should have copied the original article, instead of mine. Otherwise we get copypasta decay.

Still funny, though.
#7

mplindustries

Mar 01, 2009 0:58:35
Eh.

The martial one was hilarious. This, I don't know, 6/10. ;)

The problem is, its the second one and its the same joke. Maybe it'll be funny again if there's a third. An IRL Divine User's View, anyone? Maybe you can no longer uphold your view because your hands tingled after praying a lot? Yeah, no, someone please hide the whips until we can drag the horse away.

not even remotely entertaining.

neiter was the monk

That's because the monk was actually 100% serious in his post, and the martial guy brilliantly satired it. And this, well, I guess every band has a wagon.
#8

doctorhook

Mar 01, 2009 1:06:53
Eh.

The martial one was hilarious. This, I don't know, 6/10. ;)

The problem is, its the second one and its the same joke. Maybe it'll be funny again if there's a third. An IRL Divine User's View, anyone? Maybe you can no longer uphold your view because your hands tingled after praying a lot? Yeah, no, someone please hide the whips until we can drag the horse away.

That's because the monk was actually 100% serious in his post, and the martial guy brilliantly satired it. And this, well, I guess every band has a wagon.

I'm with you. Although, now I'll feel bad if we don't get a complete set!
#9

Siberys

Mar 01, 2009 1:23:04
C'mon now, guys. You're letting the meta get out of hand with this.

I saw what happened on giantitp with the "vote up a..." threads. Please, please don't let that happen here. :P
#10

pigknight

Mar 01, 2009 2:48:31
I didn't see the monk one and thought the fighter was serious...
#11

Bolongo

Mar 01, 2009 2:55:06
I didn't see the monk one and thought the fighter was serious...

#12

mplindustries

Mar 01, 2009 3:01:06
I didn't see the monk one and thought the fighter was serious...

This makes it funny again.

Really funny.

And sad.

:P
#13

eldiran

Mar 01, 2009 3:14:07
I didn't see the monk one and thought the fighter was serious...

Hahaha, nice...
#14

Mechalibur

Mar 01, 2009 9:17:37
Wouldn't Moses be using the divine power source?
#15

apollyonschosen

Mar 01, 2009 9:34:25
I didn't think this was funny when someone did it YESTERDAY. So 0/10 for copycatting something that wasn't funny in the first place. Isn't their some useful discussion on power sources to be had, rather than parading out some tired meme>?
#16

doctorhook

Mar 01, 2009 10:03:37
I didn't think this was funny when someone did it YESTERDAY. So 0/10 for copycatting something that wasn't funny in the first place. Isn't their some useful discussion on power sources to be had, rather than parading out some tired meme>?

...It's not a meme yet. He's parodying a guy who's parodying a guy who posted, like, two days ago. Plus, I'm pretty sure it's too long to be a meme.
#17

apollyonschosen

Mar 01, 2009 10:06:46
My apologies for mislabeling the action of wasting bandwidth. Whatever you call it, it wasn't funny when the first person did it. And it is even less amusing the third or fourth time around.
Not to overlook that neither the fighter, nor the Warlock are in future releases. So its even more useless.
#18

doctorhook

Mar 01, 2009 10:17:42
My apologies for mislabeling the action of wasting bandwidth. Whatever you call it, it wasn't funny when the first person did it. And it is even less amusing the third or fourth time around.
Not to overlook that neither the fighter, nor the Warlock are in future releases. So its even more useless.

Meh... You make a valid point about it, but the truth is that this kind of satire -- and much, much worse -- is par for the course on the internet. It may not be as funny (to you) the second time around, but it's pretty small beans compared to some of the stupidity out there.

Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you of anything, AC, so much as I'm trying to point out to you that this isn't funny enough to stick around more than a few days anyway. It's already dying, and if you leave it alone, it will be gone before you know it.
#19

bobiago

Mar 01, 2009 10:54:09
Well, I laughed. So thanks.
#20

Dragon9

Mar 01, 2009 11:23:56
I'm waiting for one that is esentially the culmination of Godwin's Law.
#21

angrymojo

Mar 01, 2009 21:11:40
I'm waiting for one that is esentially the culmination of Godwin's Law.

That almost brought up a very funny, yet inappropriate post. I'm surprised I was able to censor myself.
#22

orc_bethanna_dup

Mar 01, 2009 21:21:23
This thread has been closed at VCL request.

Thanks!