I have a quick question: does anyone know if and when there might be a PC/Console video game being released with the 4e ruleset? I remember, back in the day, that I couldn't get enough of the Baldur's Gate or the Icewind Dale series. I'd really like it if something similar was released for 4e.
NWN did certainly have a bonus with the customization, though! I wouldn't be surprised if the first 4e video game ends up being a NWN game (and I'd certainly play it!), but I do hope that they'll eventually get back to the whole party feel of things (ala BG and IWD), especially with the renewed focus on party-synergy in 4e.
I hope they do make a PC game based on 4e, but I somehow doubt it will happen since they are trying to get it back to the "pen and paper" feel, even with the gametable and dungeon designer in D&Di (possibly) forthcoming still.
If so I hope the battles would be like Tactics or Fire Emblem. It seems a good way to adopt 4e to video games.
I second this. Turn based strategy is the least messy way to do it, and the NWN games always left me more frazzled when I was any class that required thought (like a mage). Until I got Stoneskin. Oh, Stoneskin...
I would like to see a game like Temple of Elemental Evil. That is a turn based, tactical combat system. I would prefer it on a grid as well.
I agree with you there, though hopefully with a few less bugs.
Seriously, though, it seems to me that the standard/move/minor action template for 4e would almost need to be placed into a turn-based tactical combat system. I've never played Tactics or Fire Emblem; maybe I should give them a shot.
I second this. Turn based strategy is the least messy way to do it, and the NWN games always left me more frazzled when I was any class that required thought (like a mage). Until I got Stoneskin. Oh, Stoneskin...
That maybe because NWN was only semi turned based and pretty much single individual for most of the game.
with the current generation of consoles. It would be very Very nice if they made a 4e D&D game, to which they could contineously update information simply by putting up purchasable and free DLCs. Somebody should send this idea to Sony and WotC.
Honestly, this isn't something that needs to wait for someone to spend ten million dollars on it. Someone needs to whip up a flash game. I'm serious.
PS: If you haven't played Final Fantasy Tactics or a few Fire Emblem games, give them a shot. They're unbelievably fun, though the FE games are very, very hard, because there's no resurrection in them.
Doesn't matter how well TOEE or DnD:Tactics was made. They can hardly be considered successes and only appeals to a small niche of gamers.
The problem with turn-based CRPGs is that, unless you put a japanese brand on it, it will never be a success
Doesn't matter how well TOEE or DnD:Tactics was made. They can hardly be considered successes and only appeals to a small niche of gamers.
Not necessarily true. Roguelikes have been popular for years under the radar in the West... but there's always been a longterm expectation that they should remain simplistic and free. If someone got off their ass and made a true-to D&D tactical RPG, I see it at least being supported by the roguelike community, so long as its good.
A simple interface that can be use quickly so turns do not take to much time, and something to provide extended re-playability. multiple game paths and side quests would be nice, but party/character customization would be the biggest part for me.
The thing that I would like to see is for a game to use 4e's XP system properly, instead of either reducing the awards, or increasing goals. if it took an average of 5 min a fight, with 10 per level, that would be 50 min of combat per level, and they would still be able to get ~24 hrs of game play in a 1-30 campaign, plus story time.
:P/joke :P
Didn't you hear the news? 4E is an MMORPG on PAPER! You've been playing the D&D videogame all this time!
/joke :P
Holy crap! the graphics are so real. Everything looks just like I would imagine it. The storyline is so engaging and it lets you make whatever choices you want. The only Bad thing I see is the voice acting. It is always present without text and it sounds like a bunch of teenage kids did all the voices.
Nevertheless, 5 out of 5.
PS: If you haven't played Final Fantasy Tactics or a few Fire Emblem games, give them a shot. They're unbelievably fun, though the FE games are very, very hard, because there's no resurrection in them.
Which is why you need to rely on tactics and teamwork. Just like in 4E. I realize that I'm off topic, but I second this. If you have not played fire emblem, do so. It's an AWESOME strategy game.
The problem with turn-based CRPGs is that, unless you put a japanese brand on it, it will never be a success
Doesn't matter how well TOEE or DnD:Tactics was made. They can hardly be considered successes and only appeals to a small niche of gamers.
Historically, I don't think this is true.
* The original Ultimas were turn based.
* Spiderweb software did well enough out of its Exile series that they remade it in isomorphic as Avernum, and even published new titles.
* There are Sci-Fi/Modern versions that have done quite well, including the original Fallout and Jagged Alliance.
The overwhelming issue with both ToEE and D&D:Tactics was serious bugginess (ToEE) or a near unplayable interface (D&D:Tactics). It's quite possible to write and sell a Western turn-based tactical game if it's playable.
Holy crap! the graphics are so real. Everything looks just like I would imagine it. The storyline is so engaging and it lets you make whatever choices you want. The only Bad thing I see is the voice acting. It is always present without text and it sounds like a bunch of teenage kids did all the voices.
Nevertheless, 5 out of 5.
I disagree. I spent hours trying to install it on my computer, only to realize that the books don't fit my DVD drive. The graphics are even worse... the whole game looks like four guys drinking booze around a table covered in gamebooks and pizza. Then we found out there were only four actual people on the entire server, and one moderator. To top it all of, the moderator was me! I ain't getting paid to do this ****, what the hell?!
Frankly, if this is what I can expect from WotC MMOs, I'm not impressed.
I disagree. I spent hours trying to install it on my computer, only to realize that the books don't fit my DVD drive. The graphics are even worse... the whole game looks like four guys drinking booze around a table covered in gamebooks and pizza. Then we found out there were only four actual people on the entire server, and one moderator. To top it all of, the moderator was me! I ain't getting paid to do this ****, what the hell?!
Frankly, if this is what I can expect from WotC MMOs, I'm not impressed.
Wow You win. Nice joke.
In any case turn based D&D vidja gaym would be awesom to the max, for realz. There's already been like 100 threads about this and so far there is no news of a 4e video game. Bioware seems to be fairly busy with dragon age: origins (which looks good) and outside of them there aren't many developers who do RPGs (well at least).
In any case once the digital table top comes out I think there won't be any need for a video game if it also comes with a sort of server and find people function, which would be great. Although I think if that were the case my entire social life outside my room would die altogether.:P
Never played any after 776, but gawd 776 is cheap. Every second hit the enemies make late-game is an instagib crit or you get spammed with status effects or something.
Sometimes I play Fire Emblem and pretend it's 4E.
FFT remains the game I play more than any other. I've played through it more times than I can remember and am playing through it yet again.
It'd be even cooler if I could play such a game with a character that I roleplay as frequently.
Also, I'd like to second the request for having a party instead of a single character. That's the primary reason why I've logged more hours with Icewind Dale than I have with Neverwinter Nights: parties are just more fun. 8o)
The game could have 2 modes:
*Single player: Think FFT again, with a story based on the Realms new storyline (so that we can start getting used to it.)
*MMORPG mode: Still turn based, with the option to upgrade the game with new material as it comes out, either by directly buying online the new material or by the use of codes in the new books (you enter the XXYY code on the new PHB III you bought for example.) This mode would be REALLY nice for a living campaign to take place.
That's what I have in mind at least
Historically, I don't think this is true.
* The original Ultimas were turn based.
* Spiderweb software did well enough out of its Exile series that they remade it in isomorphic as Avernum, and even published new titles.
* There are Sci-Fi/Modern versions that have done quite well, including the original Fallout and Jagged Alliance.
The overwhelming issue with both ToEE and D&D:Tactics was serious bugginess (ToEE) or a near unplayable interface (D&D:Tactics). It's quite possible to write and sell a Western turn-based tactical game if it's playable.
Hell yeah, D&D:Tactics was unplayable even by the most hard core fan. Makes you wonder who the hell signed the release for such a product, as I can't even see the designer playing the thing and having fun with it.
FFT would be a winning model to make a 4E game.
Doesn't matter how well TOEE or DnD:Tactics was made. They can hardly be considered successes and only appeals to a small niche of gamers.
The problem is that TOEE sadly wasn't well made but a horrible bugfest. DnD_ Tactics was a nice game, the PSP is just the wrong place for it (control and screen-size).
The problem is that TOEE sadly wasn't well made but a horrible bugfest. DnD_ Tactics was a nice game, the PSP is just the wrong place for it (control and screen-size).
I agree 100% about ToEE. The storyline was obviously excellent, based as it was on one of the best D&D adventures ever made. And the combat system was also fairly easy to use. But all those annoying bugs really killed the game. It just goes to show that shoddy workmanship can ruin a good product.
The BG and NWN series, on the other hand, along with the NWN games, had very few bugs and worked very well with only minor corrections.
Historically, I don't think this is true.
* The original Ultimas were turn based.
* Spiderweb software did well enough out of its Exile series that they remade it in isomorphic as Avernum, and even published new titles.
* There are Sci-Fi/Modern versions that have done quite well, including the original Fallout and Jagged Alliance.
The overwhelming issue with both ToEE and D&D:Tactics was serious bugginess (ToEE) or a near unplayable interface (D&D:Tactics). It's quite possible to write and sell a Western turn-based tactical game if it's playable.
I'm sorry, I didn't clarify that I was meaning the year 2000 and beyond. The problem isn't how good they are in spirit, they have to be accepted by the masses to be something that developers want to invest money in. ToEE was very good in spirit, but it still wasn't a success.
Name a turn-based western RPG, year 2000 and beyond, that is considered a success.
I would like to see a game like Temple of Elemental Evil. That is a turn based, tactical combat system. I would prefer it on a grid as well.
Yep, I've played everything since Pool of Radiance and I was very impressed with the way TOEE was translated on to the computer. I think that perfectly captured the tactical combat of D&D, along with initiative, etc. Very well done (apart from a few bugs) :D