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Any chance of a Points of Light fluff book?

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#1
fey_feline
May 25, 2013 18:24:43 4e seems to be winding down, with the focus on reprinting old material and getting ready for D&D Next. Do you guys think we'll get to see a Point of Light Campaign Setting?

Rules gripes aside, I've come to love a lot of 4e's fluff. The thing is, it's scattered across thousands of pages in tiny pieces. A book jam-packed with lore, a la the old 2e settings (like Dark Sun and Planescape) would be really nice. Is anybody else interested?
#2
sillyzander
May 31, 2013 9:30:09 I wish but it doesn't seem like they care about anything we want from or for 4th ed.
#3
sgt_d
May 31, 2013 21:00:38 I would definitely go for a Nerath/Nentir Vale campaign setting book. I always thought that the setting had a lot of potential.
#4
Macrocosm156
Jun 10, 2013 22:14:16 The whole point of the Points of Light setting is that it doesn't have a predefined history or geography. That's part of the "Points of Light" concept, i.e. that we get a small amount of information but everything else is left undefined for the DM and PCs to decide for themselves.

I would rather they give us an updated 4e version of an old setting like Dragonlance or Greyhawk than try to make Points of Light into something it was never meant to be.

Also, there's already more material for Points of Light than there is for all of the other 4e campaifgn settings (Ebberon, FR, DS) combined.
#5
hunterian7
Jun 11, 2013 2:08:02
The whole point of the Points of Light setting is that it doesn't have a predefined history or geography. That's part of the "Points of Light" concept, i.e. that we get a small amount of information but everything else is left undefined for the DM and PCs to decide for themselves.

I would rather they give us an updated 4e version of an old setting like Dragonlance or Greyhawk than try to make Points of Light into something it was never meant to be.

Also, there's already more material for Points of Light than there is for all of the other 4e campaifgn settings (Ebberon, FR, DS) combined.

Hmmmm. They sure fleshed out the Nentir Vale in Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale. As a point of light setting it sure has an in-depth history and geography. For 'something that was never meant to be defined' Threats to the Nentir Vale sure invalidates your 'theory' (cough, cough opinion) of points of light.

#6
The_Jester
Jun 20, 2013 0:59:30
The whole point of the Points of Light setting is that it doesn't have a predefined history or geography. That's part of the "Points of Light" concept, i.e. that we get a small amount of information but everything else is left undefined for the DM and PCs to decide for themselves.

I would rather they give us an updated 4e version of an old setting like Dragonlance or Greyhawk than try to make Points of Light into something it was never meant to be.

Also, there's already more material for Points of Light than there is for all of the other 4e campaifgn settings (Ebberon, FR, DS) combined.

Hmmmm. They sure fleshed out the Nentir Vale in Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale. As a point of light setting it sure has an in-depth history and geography. For 'something that was never meant to be defined' Threats to the Nentir Vale sure invalidates your 'theory' (cough, cough opinion) of points of light.

This was always the problem with the PoL setting. It was supposed to be generic so anyone could use it, but they kept adding more and more details. So every product just make the Nentir Vale harder to use and less open.

There's some fun stuff in the Vale but it's really the most generic land in genericville. WotC already owns a half-dozen generic fantasy worlds and really doesn't need another. And detailing the world just defeats its one strength: the ability of DMs to add whatever they want to the world.
#7
Duskweaver
Jun 20, 2013 2:29:16 There was going to be a Nentir Vale Gazetteer, but they cancelled it.
#8
Luis_Carlos
Jun 22, 2013 15:35:05 There are other options to add background: novels, comics and videogames.
#9
MacEochaid
Aug 11, 2013 10:56:00 I really liked PoL for reasons other than just the big sandbox. First it was a DnD's greatest hits but with a storyline that pulled it all together. Also it had a very clear and established reason for every monster and crazy PC race. The pulpy campy style of hooks were there, but with a more nuanced eye than stuff like DCC. Even filled out it made a very compelling setting to me.

Which is why I have so painstakingly worked on this:

community.wizards.com/nentir_vale/wiki/I...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 fey_feline May 25, 2013 18:24:43	4e seems to be winding down, with the focus on reprinting old material and getting ready for D&D Next. Do you guys think we'll get to see a Point of Light Campaign Setting? Rules gripes aside, I've come to love a lot of 4e's fluff. The thing is, it's scattered across thousands of pages in tiny pieces. A book jam-packed with lore, a la the old 2e settings (like Dark Sun and Planescape) would be really nice. Is anybody else interested?
#2 sillyzander May 31, 2013 9:30:09	I wish but it doesn't seem like they care about anything we want from or for 4th ed.
#3 sgt_d May 31, 2013 21:00:38	I would definitely go for a Nerath/Nentir Vale campaign setting book. I always thought that the setting had a lot of potential.
#4 Macrocosm156 Jun 10, 2013 22:14:16	The whole point of the Points of Light setting is that it doesn't have a predefined history or geography. That's part of the "Points of Light" concept, i.e. that we get a small amount of information but everything else is left undefined for the DM and PCs to decide for themselves. I would rather they give us an updated 4e version of an old setting like Dragonlance or Greyhawk than try to make Points of Light into something it was never meant to be. Also, there's already more material for Points of Light than there is for all of the other 4e campaifgn settings (Ebberon, FR, DS) combined.
#5 hunterian7 Jun 11, 2013 2:08:02	The whole point of the Points of Light setting is that it doesn't have a predefined history or geography. That's part of the "Points of Light" concept, i.e. that we get a small amount of information but everything else is left undefined for the DM and PCs to decide for themselves. I would rather they give us an updated 4e version of an old setting like Dragonlance or Greyhawk than try to make Points of Light into something it was never meant to be. Also, there's already more material for Points of Light than there is for all of the other 4e campaifgn settings (Ebberon, FR, DS) combined. Hmmmm. They sure fleshed out the Nentir Vale in Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale. As a point of light setting it sure has an in-depth history and geography. For 'something that was never meant to be defined' Threats to the Nentir Vale sure invalidates your 'theory' (cough, cough opinion) of points of light.
#6 The_Jester Jun 20, 2013 0:59:30	The whole point of the Points of Light setting is that it doesn't have a predefined history or geography. That's part of the "Points of Light" concept, i.e. that we get a small amount of information but everything else is left undefined for the DM and PCs to decide for themselves. I would rather they give us an updated 4e version of an old setting like Dragonlance or Greyhawk than try to make Points of Light into something it was never meant to be. Also, there's already more material for Points of Light than there is for all of the other 4e campaifgn settings (Ebberon, FR, DS) combined. Hmmmm. They sure fleshed out the Nentir Vale in Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale. As a point of light setting it sure has an in-depth history and geography. For 'something that was never meant to be defined' Threats to the Nentir Vale sure invalidates your 'theory' (cough, cough opinion) of points of light. This was always the problem with the PoL setting. It was supposed to be generic so anyone could use it, but they kept adding more and more details. So every product just make the Nentir Vale harder to use and less open. There's some fun stuff in the Vale but it's really the most generic land in genericville. WotC already owns a half-dozen generic fantasy worlds and really doesn't need another. And detailing the world just defeats its one strength: the ability of DMs to add whatever they want to the world.
#7 Duskweaver Jun 20, 2013 2:29:16	There was going to be a Nentir Vale Gazetteer, but they cancelled it.
#8 Luis_Carlos Jun 22, 2013 15:35:05	There are other options to add background: novels, comics and videogames.
#9 MacEochaid Aug 11, 2013 10:56:00	I really liked PoL for reasons other than just the big sandbox. First it was a DnD's greatest hits but with a storyline that pulled it all together. Also it had a very clear and established reason for every monster and crazy PC race. The pulpy campy style of hooks were there, but with a more nuanced eye than stuff like DCC. Even filled out it made a very compelling setting to me. Which is why I have so painstakingly worked on this: community.wizards.com/nentir_vale/wiki/I...