Avengers?

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#1

akumadaimyo

Feb 25, 2009 17:57:46
Will we see sort of Demo version of this class? Whil Wheaton was playing one in the Podcast so I was curious what they can do.
#2

Seeker95

Feb 25, 2009 18:24:03
Likely not, since the source book will be coming out really really soon.
#3

ieattrollsforbreakfast

Feb 25, 2009 18:35:31
All we have are the first two pages of the class, which is just the fluff and the features without any powers, and the 1st level half-orc avenger character sheet from DDXP. They should be enough to play an avenger at 1st level.
No demos like the levels 1-3 previews for the other PHB2 classes, though, and as Seeker says I doubt we'll see one next month.
#4

tehsquirrely

Feb 25, 2009 20:46:02
The avenger is clearly too awesom for the internet and would destroy it with it's divine fury.

On that note I think it's worth mentioning that Whil Wheaton wasn't taking advantage of oath of emnity, he didn't use the reroll!!! Also worth noting the guy playing the dwarf fighter forgot about making attacks against marked targets that shift, listening to that podcast got painful at times for me. I can't believe their DM failed to remind them of that kind of stuff.
#5

DSCrankshaw

Feb 26, 2009 3:24:39
The avenger is clearly too awesom for the internet and would destroy it with it's divine fury.

On that note I think it's worth mentioning that Whil Wheaton wasn't taking advantage of oath of emnity, he didn't use the reroll!!! Also worth noting the guy playing the dwarf fighter forgot about making attacks against marked targets that shift, listening to that podcast got painful at times for me. I can't believe their DM failed to remind them of that kind of stuff.

Heh, it's not the DM's job to remind them of what their characters can do--players need to keep track of their own abilities.

At least, that's the case with experienced players. Since it was pretty obvious that the players weren't experienced, then yes, the DM probably should have pointed out the things they were missing.
#6

zeratulcraft

Feb 26, 2009 3:33:27
Heh, it's not the DM's job to remind them of what their characters can do--players need to keep track of their own abilities.

At least, that's the case with experienced players. Since it was pretty obvious that the players weren't experienced, then yes, the DM probably should have pointed out the things they were missing.

I can see that a DM wouldn't want to play the other peoples character for them, which is what stops me from telling everyone in my group that I've memorized their abilities and come up with many many tactics.
#7

akumadaimyo

Feb 26, 2009 3:41:37
A helpful DM should remind the players of what they can do, especially if they are brand new to the game. Taking advantage of it when they forget is not a good DM habit to have.
#8

Seeker95

Feb 26, 2009 6:36:16
Regarding the podcast with Wil and the Penny Arcade guys...
On that note I think it's worth mentioning that Whil Wheaton wasn't taking advantage of oath of enmity, he didn't use the reroll!!! Also worth noting the guy playing the dwarf fighter forgot about making attacks against marked targets that shift [...]

Over at Penny Arcade, Gabe explains this...
If you know the rules backwards and forwards you might get a little frustrated with us during these podcasts. Sometimes we don't roll the right dice, sometimes we go off on tangents trying to crack each other up, and sometimes we don't remember to play each ability exactly the way it's spelled out in the book. That's okay though, because for the eight straight hours it took us to record the entire thing, we had a blast.

-Gabe out

#9

paragonbishop

Feb 26, 2009 8:08:31
Originally Posted by Gable
If you know the rules backwards and forwards you might get a little frustrated with us during these podcasts. Sometimes we don't roll the right dice, sometimes we go off on tangents trying to crack each other up, and sometimes we don't remember to play each ability exactly the way it's spelled out in the book. That's okay though, because for the eight straight hours it took us to record the entire thing, we had a blast.

-Gabe out

AND THAT Ladles and JellySpoons is what gaming is about!


~Bishop
#10

birdursh

Feb 26, 2009 9:30:37
I still would have reminded Wil about the reroll, though.
#11

smacintush

Feb 26, 2009 9:57:27
I still would have reminded Wil about the reroll, though.

So, there are never mistakes when your group plays?

Wow, I wanna join so I can bask in the glow of your awesomeness.
#12

akodoreign

Feb 26, 2009 9:59:39
All we have are the first two pages of the class, which is just the fluff and the features without any powers, and the 1st level half-orc avenger character sheet from DDXP. They should be enough to play an avenger at 1st level.
No demos like the levels 1-3 previews for the other PHB2 classes, though, and as Seeker says I doubt we'll see one next month.

Not quite true, Some of us have the Game Day work ups that have a level 11 work up of an avenger for next month :P.
#13

birdursh

Feb 26, 2009 10:12:23
So, there are never mistakes when your group plays?

Wow, I wanna join so I can bask in the glow of your awesomeness.

Regardless of how many or few mistakes are made by my group or myself, I haven't even seen the PHBII and the thought occurred to me that Avengers have some kind of reroll mechanic. If I had an Avenger at my table miss several times in a row, I'd ask him to double check how exactly it worked.

One thought that occurred to me after my first post was I couldn't recall if the one he was attacking was the one he'd marked, which I assume would have some bearing on the rerolls. If that's the case then it's no wonder why no one bothered to mention it.

Either way, you're always welcome in my games. You can never have enough sarcasm.
#14

Delazar78

Feb 26, 2009 10:18:37
Not quite true, Some of us have the Game Day work ups that have a level 11 work up of an avenger for next month :P.

GIEF!
#15

akodoreign

Feb 26, 2009 10:27:19
GIEF!

Ill assume you mean reference 1 or 2 from the urban dictionary :D

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gief
#16

Bolongo

Feb 28, 2009 12:40:22
Will we see sort of Demo version of this class?

Going by the March editorial calendar, no.