Just rampant speculation. But 4e is crying out for a CRPG, and BG3 is a guaranteed moneymaking title.
Give it time.
Let the software developer (either Atari or someone they contracted) study the current 4e rules before making it into software codes.
Also, it needs to be done by BioWare. Ideally with all the panache and awesome they put into games like Mass Effect. Heck, I'd say they should put the Mass Effect team on that, save that the Mass Effect team needs to be working on Mass Effect 2 more than anything.
Hell, I would probably buy two of 'em.
Hells yes, sign me up for a 4e CRPG.
I would buy anything Bioware made with the DnD logo on it.
I tend to be picky, but after being blown away by the virtuoso performance that is Mass Effect I must say that my outlook on BioWare's future efforts is Highly Favourable.
I'd definitely go for a BioWare-made 4E CRPG that's put together with the same kind of love and effort shown for ME--if it's anything close to it, even.
)I don't like it when folks say that 4E is too "video-gamey" or whatever, but there's no denying that 4E's system would make some hella amazing turn-based RPG/Tactical Strategy game.
Setting? Eberron would, of course, rock! But a "Baldur's Gate III" could be a cool way of showing off the new Realms, too. Hell, BG1 was how I first got into D&D and the Realms in the first place.
I tend to be picky, but after being blown away by the virtuoso performance that is Mass Effect I must say that my outlook on BioWare's future efforts is Highly Favourable.
I'd definitely go for a BioWare-made 4E CRPG that's put together with the same kind of love and effort shown for ME--if it's anything close to it, even.
Have you ever played the first Neverwinter Nights? If not, you'll probably want to grab that (if you get the platinum edition, I believe it comes with the two expansions). That was Bioware too. The original Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic as well.
I'm a big fan of Bioware. I'm anxiously awaiting Mass Effect 2, as well as Dragon Age. They never disappoint.
Obsidian is a pretty good developer too. They took Neverwinter Nights from Bioware for the NWN2 series, as well as the Knights of the Old Republic 2 game. (It's made up of people who worked on Planescape: Torment.)
you know what, as long as they don't put some SeCuRom thing which only allows you to install 3 times (that installation limit is the REAL kicker), I'll be sure to buy it. Put an installation limit and/or online authentication, and NO WAY in HECK I'll get it.
I don't understand this argument. If you're using the game legally, how many times are you really going to install it? The entire reason for DRM schemes like this is to prevent someone from downloading it off the web and playing without purchasing it.
If you honestly need to install it again a 4th time, you can contact the game publisher and they'll happily extend the authentication, if you have a legit copy.
Does a game publisher not have the right to defend their product from theft?
Now I know in the past there have been problems with certain packages (SecuRom may have even been one of them, IIRC) where it caused system problems. In that case, I can understand. However, the software is stable these days, and the complaint I always see is "I shouldn't have a restriction on the number of installs I can make", which puzzles me. If you're buying the game legitimately, you're not truly "restricted" from more installs, you just have an extra step after the third, which is almost never going to happen.
Think about it like this, what if you bought a dvd that you could only watch 3 times then self destructed? Really, there is always going to be away around the copy protection, that in only comes down to hurting the people who are being honest.
If there was/is a 4e CRPG, I hope it is more of a turn based semi tactical game. Similar to the Temple of Elemental Evil game, only good.
I agree that a 4e CRPG should, and probably will, be produced sooner or later, but that game being Baldur's Gate 3 is unlikely at best. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole point of Throne of Bhaal that the Bhaalspawn either ascended or shed their divinity? What the heck could a Baldur's Gate 3 be based around?
It would not be a direct sequel to BG2. Calling it BG3 would give it a big-selling name; make it more of a spiritual sequel. Related story line, party-based, story-heavy game with co-op multiplayer capability. Like the BG titles. And hopefully made by BioWare (or maybe Obsidian).
Also, it needs to be done by BioWare.
I thought they steered away from licensed products and start developing their own brand of videogames.
I don't understand this argument. If you're using the game legally, how many times are you really going to install it? The entire reason for DRM schemes like this is to prevent someone from downloading it off the web and playing without purchasing it.
If you honestly need to install it again a 4th time, you can contact the game publisher and they'll happily extend the authentication, if you have a legit copy.
Does a game publisher not have the right to defend their product from theft?
Now I know in the past there have been problems with certain packages (SecuRom may have even been one of them, IIRC) where it caused system problems. In that case, I can understand. However, the software is stable these days, and the complaint I always see is "I shouldn't have a restriction on the number of installs I can make", which puzzles me. If you're buying the game legitimately, you're not truly "restricted" from more installs, you just have an extra step after the third, which is almost never going to happen.
Why I don't like limits. Well, let's take the original BG. I've had around 5 desktops and 3 laptops since that time, all of which I've played the game on. Right there, let's see, that means I've had at least 8 installations, which makes it FIVE more than what 3 allows. In addition, I like wiping my computer every year or so, which seems to end up every 6 months or so, so at least 10 installations.
Some people install their games more then ONCE.
Oddly enough, pirates won't have that problem, in fact, if I got a game that had only 3 installations I'd be inspired to help the pirates simply to get a game that could be installed any time I dang well felt about it. I don't support piracy...but if they don't trust me enough so that they will drive people to it...I don't need ANY game that much.
IN addition, half the time I don't have internet access. When I don't...if I install a game, and it needs to be connected to get authenticated...well I don't need that either. If I play solo, it should allow me to install solo. If I want to play a game online...then I'll get an online game.
So, by doing the max 3 installs, it actually furthers the reasons of Pirates in my opinion, and makes it so people like me refuse to buy that game.
A game publisher has the right to defend their game from theft, but I see it as robbery of the customer to make it so they can't install something they bought from them. Hence I refuse to be robbed in addition to the items above.
I thought they steered away from licensed products and start developing their own brand of videogames.
This is probably true.
I'd use the sad emoticon here, but they've done such awesome things since they started flying solo that I can't bring myself to feel bad.
I thought they steered away from licensed products and start developing their own brand of videogames.
They are sort of, but they're also extremely busy for a while anyways. I hear they're making a Knights of the Old Republic MMORPG, and they're starting their own game brand called Dragon Age.
I would like to add that it would be nice to see more DnD games with Eberron as its setting, all they have so far I think is DDO(Dang you Turbine for screwing that up!!!)
They are sort of, but they're also extremely busy for a while anyways. I hear they're making a Knights of the Old Republic MMORPG, and they're starting their own game brand called Dragon Age.
Yeah, I objected to a KOTOR MMORPG. Prefer to keep it single-player offline CRPG. But hey, they have to milk more money beyond the software purchase. It's the Hutt's way.
I would also imagine that if a third BG title was to be made, and the game mechanics were based upon current 4th edition D&D... that the game would have the same exact leap of 100 years into the future that the Realms have had for 4th edition. And this would therefore preclude any real connection to either of the Bioware titles other than various character decendants they might wish to include as nods to the previous games (like maybe Imoen's granddaughter appearing as an NPC for example).
I do wonder if perhaps this was the reason Baldur's Gate was chosen as the major city to flourish within 4E's 100-years-in-the-future Forgotten Realms? Set that city up as the metropolis, thereby making any video game to come out of it having name recognition to two seperate strands of people... those who know the BG brand from the previous Bioware titles... and those new players who know the name from it being the main city within the campaign setting they are playing now.
Very interesting indeed.
While a new BG title would be good, I'd like to see some new ground explored perhaps in Eberron.
This one needs to be a console release as well, BGDA 1 and 2 were great and D&D Tactics on PSP was a very good step but we need more now.
Why I don't like limits. Well, let's take the original BG. I've had around 5 desktops and 3 laptops since that time, all of which I've played the game on. Right there, let's see, that means I've had at least 8 installations, which makes it FIVE more than what 3 allows. In addition, I like wiping my computer every year or so, which seems to end up every 6 months or so, so at least 10 installations.
Some people install their games more then ONCE.
Oddly enough, pirates won't have that problem, in fact, if I got a game that had only 3 installations I'd be inspired to help the pirates simply to get a game that could be installed any time I dang well felt about it. I don't support piracy...but if they don't trust me enough so that they will drive people to it...I don't need ANY game that much.
IN addition, half the time I don't have internet access. When I don't...if I install a game, and it needs to be connected to get authenticated...well I don't need that either. If I play solo, it should allow me to install solo. If I want to play a game online...then I'll get an online game.
So, by doing the max 3 installs, it actually furthers the reasons of Pirates in my opinion, and makes it so people like me refuse to buy that game.
A game publisher has the right to defend their game from theft, but I see it as robbery of the customer to make it so they can't install something they bought from them. Hence I refuse to be robbed in addition to the items above.
Robbery would imply a lack of ability for the customer to know what there buying, unless you count illiteracy this is not the case.
As you said "I don't need ANY game that much", thus I fail to see a problem here.