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#1 Thukad Jun 26, 2008 19:15:35	While I am loving my half-elf rogue I must admit disappointment with the fact that all of my favorite classes.... were the ones to not appear in the PHB. Bard Barbarian Monk Druid Though I also have to admit that considering how the powers and abilities of 4e work it would seem to me that the monk and the druid would be the hardest to re-imagine. But then again since WotC seem to be limiting options for classes for the sake of creating balanced party roles maybe it is merely thinking over what type of role each class plays. Bard One of the most difficult classes to play, from a combat perspective(my point of view anyway), I actually think that the Bard will have the easiest time out of the bunch being re-imagined into 4e Personally I feel confident in saying that the Bard fits the Leader role as defined by the PHB Leaders inspire, heal, and aid the other characters in an adventuring group. Leaders have good defenses, but their strength lies in powers that protect their companions and target specific foes for the party to concentrate on.
#2 Nautilus Jun 26, 2008 19:45:00	I remember reading that a primary goal that WotC have for each class is that it should bring something new to the table. So Barbarians should do things fighters can't. Druids should have tricks not in the cleric's locker. And so on. I think that when 4e was in creation, some of those classes didn't have their shtick properly nailed down. It's a pain having to wait for the classes, but on the bright side, they should be matured and fully fleshed out when they arrive. I look forward to seeing how bardic music playing is done. Since having them behave like static singing buffs would be at odds with the 4e philosophy, there should be a way for bards to attack and perform at the same time. "I play my flute and chop the monster in the shins with my shortsword" would be too hard to swallow for even the most gamist of us. I think that instruments will be treated as implements, through which powers are cast.
#3 ideasmith Jun 27, 2008 12:36:54	http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20080613a
#4 apollyonschosen Jun 27, 2008 18:00:54	Prepare to pay at least 100 or more dollars to acquire the classes you mention,besides the ones already released.
#5 ideasmith Jun 27, 2008 18:40:35	Prepare to pay at least 100 or more dollars to acquire the classes you mention,besides the ones already released. The article I linked to is free.
#6 saul_durian Jun 27, 2008 19:10:37	But that article is kinda shabby imo. I think once they actually release the classes in upcoming books, they will be totally different from the "conversion" article. The old 3e conversion stuff was the same way.
#7 Thukad Jun 27, 2008 21:37:02	It was shabby. :< Thanks for the link though.

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Thukad

Jun 26, 2008 19:15:35

While I am loving my half-elf rogue I must admit disappointment with the fact that all of my favorite classes.... were the ones to not appear in the PHB.

Bard
Barbarian
Monk
Druid

Though I also have to admit that considering how the powers and abilities of 4e work it would seem to me that the monk and the druid would be the hardest to re-imagine.

But then again since WotC seem to be limiting options for classes for the sake of creating balanced party roles maybe it is merely thinking over what type of role each class plays.

Bard

One of the most difficult classes to play, from a combat perspective(my point of view anyway), I actually think that the Bard will have the easiest time out of the bunch being re-imagined into 4e

Personally I feel confident in saying that the Bard fits the Leader role as defined by the PHB

Leaders inspire, heal, and aid the other characters in an adventuring group. Leaders have good defenses, but their strength lies in powers that protect their companions and target specific foes for the party to concentrate on.

Nautilus

Jun 26, 2008 19:45:00

I remember reading that a primary goal that WotC have for each class is that it should bring something new to the table.

So Barbarians should do things fighters can't. Druids should have tricks not in the cleric's locker. And so on. I think that when 4e was in creation, some of those classes didn't have their shtick properly nailed down. It's a pain having to wait for the classes, but on the bright side, they should be matured and fully fleshed out when they arrive.

I look forward to seeing how bardic music playing is done. Since having them behave like static singing buffs would be at odds with the 4e philosophy, there should be a way for bards to attack and perform at the same time. "I play my flute and chop the monster in the shins with my shortsword" would be too hard to swallow for even the most gamist of us. I think that instruments will be treated as implements, through which powers are cast.

ideasmith

Jun 27, 2008 12:36:54

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/20080613a

apollyonschosen

Jun 27, 2008 18:00:54

Prepare to pay at least 100 or more dollars to acquire the classes you mention,besides the ones already released.

ideasmith

Jun 27, 2008 18:40:35

Prepare to pay at least 100 or more dollars to acquire the classes you mention,besides the ones already released.

The article I linked to is free.

saul_durian

Jun 27, 2008 19:10:37

But that article is kinda shabby imo. I think once they actually release the classes in upcoming books, they will be totally different from the "conversion" article. The old 3e conversion stuff was the same way.

Thukad

Jun 27, 2008 21:37:02

It was shabby. :<

Thanks for the link though.