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Excerpt from Martial Power: Eternal Defender

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#1
torras_dm
Oct 17, 2008 14:37:32 I'm looking forward to Martial Power, but I'm made uneasy by some of the things I'm reading.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20081017a

This class is a good idea, but then when you get down to the mechanical benefits one gets as an Eternal Defender, I don't see much that makes a character inherently a better defender than his other epic-level counterparts. Every one of his abilities augments his capacity to deal damage, not protect those more vulnerable. Even when the character gets an ability that increases her reach, she does not even gain some ability to better take advantage of Defender mainstays like a fighter's Combat Challenge and Combat Superiority.

Someone talk me down on this, because I don't think I get it.
#2
greatfrito
Oct 17, 2008 14:57:39 I agree, but I think it's mostly a "name" problem.

This guy just needed a different name, because "Defender" he is not.

A multiclass Barbarian/Fighter may like this class (free Crit per day, if I can hit? That I can use on my 9[W]+ Rage Strike? Sounds nice).
#3
rikiji
Oct 18, 2008 13:15:41 I think its more of a case of playing to flavor instead of playing towards abilities. She's big, scary, and really strong - classic defender traits, even if they don't actually enhance the role in any way. Still, I agree the name and flavor text might be a bit off describing what the destiny actually does.
#4
zombiehands
Oct 19, 2008 11:36:37 I am bothered by the attribute bonus, seems like it is opening the door wide for munkinism and against 4e "policy" of limited attribute bonus
#5
ranadiel
Oct 19, 2008 16:00:34
I am bothered by the attribute bonus, seems like it is opening the door wide for munkinism and against 4e "policy" of limited attribute bonus

How is it any worse then Demigod's bonuses?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 torras_dm Oct 17, 2008 14:37:32	I'm looking forward to Martial Power, but I'm made uneasy by some of the things I'm reading. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ex/20081017a This class is a good idea, but then when you get down to the mechanical benefits one gets as an Eternal Defender, I don't see much that makes a character inherently a better defender than his other epic-level counterparts. Every one of his abilities augments his capacity to deal damage, not protect those more vulnerable. Even when the character gets an ability that increases her reach, she does not even gain some ability to better take advantage of Defender mainstays like a fighter's Combat Challenge and Combat Superiority. Someone talk me down on this, because I don't think I get it.
#2 greatfrito Oct 17, 2008 14:57:39	I agree, but I think it's mostly a "name" problem. This guy just needed a different name, because "Defender" he is not. A multiclass Barbarian/Fighter may like this class (free Crit per day, if I can hit? That I can use on my 9[W]+ Rage Strike? Sounds nice).
#3 rikiji Oct 18, 2008 13:15:41	I think its more of a case of playing to flavor instead of playing towards abilities. She's big, scary, and really strong - classic defender traits, even if they don't actually enhance the role in any way. Still, I agree the name and flavor text might be a bit off describing what the destiny actually does.
#4 zombiehands Oct 19, 2008 11:36:37	I am bothered by the attribute bonus, seems like it is opening the door wide for munkinism and against 4e "policy" of limited attribute bonus
#5 ranadiel Oct 19, 2008 16:00:34	I am bothered by the attribute bonus, seems like it is opening the door wide for munkinism and against 4e "policy" of limited attribute bonus How is it any worse then Demigod's bonuses?