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Game table and Visualizer ..... Developer's must see!!

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#1
officer_tumbleweed
Feb 25, 2009 15:31:47 This thread is directed mostly to the developers who frequent the forums.

This is not a survey!

A major question is being passed around on some of the threads and many of us are wondering......

Are there any parts of the DDI plans that have been shelved for good or are they still in development?

yes or no answers will suffice.

Character Visualizer .... Being worked on? Yes or No
Virtual Table .... Being worked on? Yes or No
Dungeon Builder .... Being worked on? Yes or No

Character Visualizer .... Not going to be finished, ever? Yes or No
Virtual Table .... Not going to be finished, ever? Yes or No
Dungeon Builder ... Not going to be finished, ever? Yes or No
#2
Bolongo
Feb 25, 2009 17:52:04 GL with that. ;)
#3
ranadiel
Feb 25, 2009 19:23:22 You are aware that Future Releases is basically a staff member dead zone right? I think it has been like three months since we last got any posts from them. You aren't going to get any responses from them here.
#4
doctorhook
Feb 25, 2009 20:43:39 PM them all a link to this thread. ;)
#5
Kaldric
Feb 26, 2009 0:28:28 I'd be satisfied with:
Are you currently working on these specific projects, and if you aren't, are there solid plans to pick them up in the future?

I don't need dates or promises, just : Yeah, we're working on them, no solid dates, but progress is being made. Or: No, not right now, but we might finish them when we have the money. (i.e., not necessarily dead in the water.)
#6
Bolongo
Feb 26, 2009 4:27:49 Well waddaya know, maybe they read the boards after all.
Or it could just be a lucky coincidence that thisold article came up in rotation on the front page today.
#7
Kaldric
Feb 26, 2009 4:49:06 I think it's just that that was exactly a year ago.
#8
joydyhee
Feb 26, 2009 6:21:56
Well waddaya know, maybe they read the boards after all.
Or it could just be a lucky coincidence that thisold article came up in rotation on the front page today.

Yeah...this is very odd to me. I followed the link and thought to myself, self, it looks like BB put the wrong dates - it says Feb. 2008!

Then I read further and the tone of the article explained it all; it said this stuff would be released alongside D&D 4.0, so the dates were not wrong! It is just weird to me that WotC would post a link to a year-old article that references such a sore point when they could just have easily posted the screenshots themselves.
#9
the_fan
Feb 26, 2009 7:25:58 I think it was a glitch. I remember this article from last year and had a major case of deja vu. Maybe they meant to post another article, but somehow it referenced the earlier article from one year ago.
#10
Dragon9
Feb 26, 2009 9:50:27 This would do better in the DDI forums. They've already said they are cleanign up issues with the CB and they are working on the visualizer next.
#11
Kaldric
Feb 26, 2009 20:21:42 Source for the "We're working on the Visualizer next" comment? I was under the impression that they had said they didn't know for certain whether or not they'd be working on it, ever. If I've missed a statement somewhere, I'd be ecstatic.
#12
doctorhook
Feb 26, 2009 22:12:36
Source for the "We're working on the Visualizer next" comment? I was under the impression that they had said they didn't know for certain whether or not they'd be working on it, ever. If I've missed a statement somewhere, I'd be ecstatic.

They said that they "will be" rather than "currently are" working on the Visualizer next; it's a pretty old comment, and the debate now isn't whether or not it was said, but whether or not it's still accurate.
#13
Kaldric
Feb 26, 2009 22:29:41 Dangit. Does anyone have anything that they overheard, did anyone mention the Gametable or Visualizer off the record at the last convention?
#14
Dragon9
Feb 26, 2009 22:43:03
They said that they "will be" rather than "currently are" working on the Visualizer next; it's a pretty old comment, and the debate now isn't whether or not it was said, but whether or not it's still accurate.

Ah, I see... so we need a daily or weekly affirmation that they're working on something or the sky is falling. Got it. Carry on.
#15
doctorhook
Feb 26, 2009 22:49:37
Ah, I see... so we need a daily or weekly affirmation that they're working on something or the sky is falling. Got it. Carry on.

lol Depending upon whom you ask, yes. FWIW though, these sorts of questions come up more frequently in the sort of acute economic conditions we're currently facing.
#16
Dragon9
Feb 26, 2009 22:58:09 Yes... I have seen a lot of posts that amount to "Have they said anything else?" "How about now?" "Now?" "Now?!" "How about now??!!"

Then finally a reply: "Dude, it's only been an hour between each of your posts. Chill."

#17
Kaldric
Feb 26, 2009 23:02:10
Ah, I see... so we need a daily or weekly affirmation that they're working on something or the sky is falling. Got it. Carry on.

Thanks for the sarcasm. You're very clever, and we're all terribly impressed. We'd just like to know whether they're planning on finishing it or not. Not unreasonable. Yeesh.
#18
Dragon9
Feb 26, 2009 23:16:25
Thanks for the sarcasm.

You are very welcome!

You're very clever, and we're all terribly impressed.

Thank you for noticing. I try.

We'd just like to know whether they're planning on finishing it or not. Not unreasonable. Yeesh.

You can go the DDI forums and find a million threads asking the same thing.

On a daily basis. :pile:

Ad naseum.

We've seen working versions of all them. While that certainly doesn't mean that the projects couldn't be scrapped, it would be ill advised to do so on a financial basis as well as a business plan basis. It's in their best interests financially to add more value to the DDI subscriptions.

They have been loathe to comment on the status of works in progress, and I don't blame them after their poor decision to announce things would be ready at 4e launch. Now they announce when something is just about ready to go into beta and not before. They haven't answered the other million threads on it because it leaves it open for false expectations to be set. If they're going to scrap something they'll announce it. If it's ready for prime time, they'll announce it.
#19
Kaldric
Feb 26, 2009 23:20:10 Whereas I figure if they were going to scrap something, they wouldn't announce it, they'd just never speak of it again and hope people would forget. My fear of the eeevil corporaaations, I suppose. Comes from working for them.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 officer_tumbleweed Feb 25, 2009 15:31:47	This thread is directed mostly to the developers who frequent the forums. This is not a survey! A major question is being passed around on some of the threads and many of us are wondering...... Are there any parts of the DDI plans that have been shelved for good or are they still in development? yes or no answers will suffice. Character Visualizer .... Being worked on? Yes or No Virtual Table .... Being worked on? Yes or No Dungeon Builder .... Being worked on? Yes or No Character Visualizer .... Not going to be finished, ever? Yes or No Virtual Table .... Not going to be finished, ever? Yes or No Dungeon Builder ... Not going to be finished, ever? Yes or No
#2 Bolongo Feb 25, 2009 17:52:04	GL with that. ;)
#3 ranadiel Feb 25, 2009 19:23:22	You are aware that Future Releases is basically a staff member dead zone right? I think it has been like three months since we last got any posts from them. You aren't going to get any responses from them here.
#4 doctorhook Feb 25, 2009 20:43:39	PM them all a link to this thread. ;)
#5 Kaldric Feb 26, 2009 0:28:28	I'd be satisfied with: Are you currently working on these specific projects, and if you aren't, are there solid plans to pick them up in the future? I don't need dates or promises, just : Yeah, we're working on them, no solid dates, but progress is being made. Or: No, not right now, but we might finish them when we have the money. (i.e., not necessarily dead in the water.)
#6 Bolongo Feb 26, 2009 4:27:49	Well waddaya know, maybe they read the boards after all. Or it could just be a lucky coincidence that thisold article came up in rotation on the front page today.
#7 Kaldric Feb 26, 2009 4:49:06	I think it's just that that was exactly a year ago.
#8 joydyhee Feb 26, 2009 6:21:56	Well waddaya know, maybe they read the boards after all. Or it could just be a lucky coincidence that thisold article came up in rotation on the front page today. Yeah...this is very odd to me. I followed the link and thought to myself, self, it looks like BB put the wrong dates - it says Feb. 2008! Then I read further and the tone of the article explained it all; it said this stuff would be released alongside D&D 4.0, so the dates were not wrong! It is just weird to me that WotC would post a link to a year-old article that references such a sore point when they could just have easily posted the screenshots themselves.
#9 the_fan Feb 26, 2009 7:25:58	I think it was a glitch. I remember this article from last year and had a major case of deja vu. Maybe they meant to post another article, but somehow it referenced the earlier article from one year ago.
#10 Dragon9 Feb 26, 2009 9:50:27	This would do better in the DDI forums. They've already said they are cleanign up issues with the CB and they are working on the visualizer next.
#11 Kaldric Feb 26, 2009 20:21:42	Source for the "We're working on the Visualizer next" comment? I was under the impression that they had said they didn't know for certain whether or not they'd be working on it, ever. If I've missed a statement somewhere, I'd be ecstatic.
#12 doctorhook Feb 26, 2009 22:12:36	Source for the "We're working on the Visualizer next" comment? I was under the impression that they had said they didn't know for certain whether or not they'd be working on it, ever. If I've missed a statement somewhere, I'd be ecstatic. They said that they "will be" rather than "currently are" working on the Visualizer next; it's a pretty old comment, and the debate now isn't whether or not it was said, but whether or not it's still accurate.
#13 Kaldric Feb 26, 2009 22:29:41	Dangit. Does anyone have anything that they overheard, did anyone mention the Gametable or Visualizer off the record at the last convention?
#14 Dragon9 Feb 26, 2009 22:43:03	They said that they "will be" rather than "currently are" working on the Visualizer next; it's a pretty old comment, and the debate now isn't whether or not it was said, but whether or not it's still accurate. Ah, I see... so we need a daily or weekly affirmation that they're working on something or the sky is falling. Got it. Carry on.
#15 doctorhook Feb 26, 2009 22:49:37	Ah, I see... so we need a daily or weekly affirmation that they're working on something or the sky is falling. Got it. Carry on. lol Depending upon whom you ask, yes. FWIW though, these sorts of questions come up more frequently in the sort of acute economic conditions we're currently facing.
#16 Dragon9 Feb 26, 2009 22:58:09	Yes... I have seen a lot of posts that amount to "Have they said anything else?" "How about now?" "Now?" "Now?!" "How about now??!!" Then finally a reply: "Dude, it's only been an hour between each of your posts. Chill."
#17 Kaldric Feb 26, 2009 23:02:10	Ah, I see... so we need a daily or weekly affirmation that they're working on something or the sky is falling. Got it. Carry on. Thanks for the sarcasm. You're very clever, and we're all terribly impressed. We'd just like to know whether they're planning on finishing it or not. Not unreasonable. Yeesh.
#18 Dragon9 Feb 26, 2009 23:16:25	Thanks for the sarcasm. You are very welcome! You're very clever, and we're all terribly impressed. Thank you for noticing. I try. We'd just like to know whether they're planning on finishing it or not. Not unreasonable. Yeesh. You can go the DDI forums and find a million threads asking the same thing. On a daily basis. :pile: Ad naseum. We've seen working versions of all them. While that certainly doesn't mean that the projects couldn't be scrapped, it would be ill advised to do so on a financial basis as well as a business plan basis. It's in their best interests financially to add more value to the DDI subscriptions. They have been loathe to comment on the status of works in progress, and I don't blame them after their poor decision to announce things would be ready at 4e launch. Now they announce when something is just about ready to go into beta and not before. They haven't answered the other million threads on it because it leaves it open for false expectations to be set. If they're going to scrap something they'll announce it. If it's ready for prime time, they'll announce it.
#19 Kaldric Feb 26, 2009 23:20:10	Whereas I figure if they were going to scrap something, they wouldn't announce it, they'd just never speak of it again and hope people would forget. My fear of the eeevil corporaaations, I suppose. Comes from working for them.