Always been a great fun of them...
Is any info leaked about them?
thanks
So... no that draconomikon is going out and the dragon discussion is a hot subjext.... do we know anything about the gem dragons?
Always been a great fun of them...
Is any info leaked about them?
thanks
Officially, no. The MM mentions several different families of dragons, (Chromatic, Metallic, Scourge, and Catastrophe Dragons, [EDIT: and Planar Dragons] IIRC), but not Gem Dragons or Lung Dragons. However, this doesn't necessarily mean that they won't be treated in 4E eventually.
You just might have to wait until MM4 or MM5 before you see them though....
As for gem dragons, golly I miss 'em.
I wonder if the Draconomicon will be another of those books that the Wizard who lives by the Coast intends as a sort of open-ended series for 4e (like the PHB, DMG, MM, and AdV)...
It would still be cool...
;)
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the battle, radiant, shadow, force, prismatic, fang, etc...
i wanted to say, something oabout them needing a psion power source first, but im not sure there
Wouldn't the Catastrophe dragons include some of the lung dragons? I'm not really sure where they're going with the dragon types.
This is exactly what I said in a related thread, the lung dragons had control of elemental forces other non-epic dragons didn't. Divine wind? Tsunami? Lung dragons' dominions.
As for gem dragons, golly I miss 'em.
You and me both… better not nerf psionics too badly so the gem dragons will come out decent.
and that was a huge family of dragons...
the battle, radiant, shadow, force, prismatic, fang, etc...
It was a large family, but to be fair, of those you mentioned, only Battle Dragons and Radiant Dragons were "Planar Dragons" in 3.5E.
In 4E, Shadow Dragons will likely join the family, but the cosmology is plenty smaller too, so it's hard to say who else will be there. (FWIW, most of 3.5E's planes are now Astral Dominions, so perhaps 4E's Planar Dragons will be entirely different.)
This is exactly what I said in a related thread, the lung dragons had control of elemental forces other non-epic dragons didn't. Divine wind? Tsunami? Lung dragons' dominions.
Could very well be.
You and me both… better not nerf psionics too badly so the gem dragons will come out decent.
Remember, it doesn't matter at all what the Psionics rules look like, since monsters in 4E don't follow the same creation rules as PCs. Gem Dragons are completely possible even now, without the Psionic power source.
Ok, yes one of the big things about the Gems was that they were neutral but other then that there other bid aspect was that they were Psionic in nature instead of magical like other Dragons, We will most likely have to wait until the Psionics power source to be out before we see anything about Gem Dragons. I kinda wish I could find a 2e group so I can play a CotW game as an Amyethist again.
Im not so sure that we will have to wait for the Psionic Power Source to come out for Gem Dragons(if they are to be added at all). We already have Githyanki, Githzerai, and Mindflayers, all of which are psionic in nature.
I kinda wish I could find a 2e group so I can play a CotW game as an Amyethist again.
Why not a 3e or 4e Council of Wyrms? Maybe someone can start a conversion.
It was a large family, but to be fair, of those you mentioned, only Battle Dragons and Radiant Dragons were "Planar Dragons" in 3.5E.
In 4E, Shadow Dragons will likely join the family, but the cosmology is plenty smaller too, so it's hard to say who else will be there. (FWIW, most of 3.5E's planes are now Astral Dominions, so perhaps 4E's Planar Dragons will be entirely different.)
ahh, but if the dragono,icon said they were not native to the prime, or came from a plane i considered it a planar dragon.
each to their own
ahh, but if the dragono,icon said they were not native to the prime, or came from a plane i considered it a planar dragon.
each to their own
lol Indeed.
(I considered the ones that are explicitly referred to as Planar Dragons. :P )
For Chromatic we have:
Red
Blue
Green
Black
White
plus the three from Draconomicon I
Metallics that we have:
Adamantium
Iron
Gold
Silver
Copper
Also the origins excerpt of dragons hint at a few of the others:
Catastrophe dragons would include volcano and hurricane themes and are likely unaligned/evil.
Linnorms/Scourge dragons deal with causing inflictions and if they drop the neutral aspect of gem dragons might cover some of them and are likely all chaotic evil.
Planar dragons are dragons who come from other types but have been altered by taken up residence in another plane. They say chromatics are the most prone to this. This is where we might see some gem dragons as well. Also the Shadow and Astral dragons would be a good fit here.
Why not a 3e or 4e Council of Wyrms? Maybe someone can start a conversion.
I'm working on a conversion, but I'm corrupting it pretty heavilly with 4th core backstory.
For instance, the Io's Blood Isles are the site of Io's death at the hands of the Primortial King of Terror... and where Bahamut and Tiamat arose to finish the job. They rip the primortal apart and toss his halfes in opposite directions, and one becomes the Burning Sea and the Land of theFire Giants (and Archions), and the other becomes the land of the Ice giants. (and Archions)