Harrowing Halls - Anyone Picked it Up Yet?

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#1

greatfrito

Mar 07, 2010 16:21:26
I know folks are able to grab this month's releases early in some places.  We're seeing info about Hammerfast (which I didn't even think was coming out), and PH3 - but I've yet to see anything about the Harrowing Halls tile set.

Anyone purchased it?  Anyone opened it?  Thoughts?  Impressions?  How well do the "3D elements" work?  How functional are the "halls" tiles?  Etc, etc.

Laughing
#2

alisair_longreach

Mar 08, 2010 14:50:59
I got it.

Four sheets have various interior rooms. A kitchen, barracks, bedroom, festhall, grand entrance, bathroom, office, bar, tables.

Two sheets with 3D elements. a 4x4 platform, a 2x2 platform, a 1x1 platform, two tables, a staircase. Brickwork on one side, wooden planks on the other side.
#3

greatfrito

Mar 08, 2010 16:36:59
I was just coming on to say that yes, I couldn't wait, I'm a Dungeon Tiles addict, so I found them and bought one set (I'll still wait for number 2 to come with PH3 - I can't afford to not get the 40 or so % off from Amazon on that one).

My initial impression?  This may be one of the most useful sets of tiles, for me, that they've ever made.  Inn/Tavern/Building interiors?  Yes. 

That's all that you really need to know, I think.  We finally have tiles for non-dungeon building interiors.  Since my campaigns usually feature something between 1-in-5 or 1-in-4 encounters being inside "normal" buildings, this set is a must have for me.  I plan on getting a second set, without concern.

A nice thing about this set, though: It's usable with just a single set (unlike some others, such as Arcane Towers).  2 sets will let you build bigger (and better) structures, but one set is completely passable.

The 3D tiles are... well, very plain.  It's not necessarily a bad thing - at the very least it means they can easily re-use the stamp shape for a different future set.  But it's just not that impressive.  Stairs are nice (and look good, despite my initial reservations), but there's only 1 freestanding door (and it looks a bit funny), 1 freestanding table (which looks okay, if a bit plain), and the rest are all rectangular platforms of a few different types.  It's pretty minimal, but *shrugs* it works.

Oh, and there's one just kind of... random tile.  A dungeon rope-bridge.  Not 3D, just... a dungeon tile.  The only one.  In a set full of just non-dungeon interiors.  It's a nice tile, but... why the heck is it in this set?
#4

VaultDweller

Mar 08, 2010 17:30:32
I was just coming on to say that yes, I couldn't wait, I'm a Dungeon Tiles addict, so I found them and bought one set (I'll still wait for number 2 to come with PH3 - I can't afford to not get the 40 or so % off from Amazon on that one).

Wait, what?  Amazon has a 40% off sale?  Or do you just mean that Amazon has it at 40% cheaper than the local stores?

I'm glad that people seem pleased with the set.  I have two copies coming from Amazon with my PHB3 pre-order.

So, how do the 3D elements actually work?  How do they get 3D objects out of a flat sheet?  Do they come in multiple pieces that fit together?
#5

greatfrito

Mar 08, 2010 17:58:23
I was just coming on to say that yes, I couldn't wait, I'm a Dungeon Tiles addict, so I found them and bought one set (I'll still wait for number 2 to come with PH3 - I can't afford to not get the 40 or so % off from Amazon on that one).

Wait, what?  Amazon has a 40% off sale?  Or do you just mean that Amazon has it at 40% cheaper than the local stores?


Oh, just the normal "40% cheaper than normal" thing.

So, how do the 3D elements actually work?  How do they get 3D objects out of a flat sheet?  Do they come in multiple pieces that fit together?


Yeah, multiple pieces that you put together.  The good thing about the various platforms is that, I believe, the parts are interchangeable enough that you can make a 2x2, 2x4, or 4x4 platform of either height ("tall" and "medium", I guess).
#6

yellerSumner

Mar 09, 2010 10:50:59
Would it be possible to get pictures of some of the 3d elements?
#7

greatfrito

Mar 09, 2010 12:36:10
Would it be possible to get pictures of some of the 3d elements?


Hopefully someone else will post them.  I would snap some of my current set-up, but my camera is mysteriously vanished.

Actually, some quick digging turned up a few links (via ENWorld).

Some previews of the tiles here, about halfway down the page.

And here, a pic of a good setup (so that's what that stupid bridge piece is for!  It makes so much sense now!).


Let's see if I can post that last pic here...
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#8

Dragoloth

Mar 09, 2010 12:55:38
I might have to pick up more than my normal 2 sets, just for the stairs.
#9

yellerSumner

Mar 09, 2010 13:05:00
Thanks for digging those up.

Man, when they get some more 3D sets out we're going to have some really neat dungeons.
#10

greatfrito

Mar 09, 2010 13:15:10
As far as 3D elements go, I think they're great "lazy" options.  By which I mean they require little effort, and can easily be assembled/disassembled/stored - but other (cheap) tile options can look as good (if not better), for less money.  I'm thinking of the "print your own" products (from a few companies).

So, it's good stuff, if you want something fast and easy (no printing, no cutting, no assembly, etc).
#11

yellerSumner

Mar 09, 2010 14:02:15
I know I've seen print-your-own constructable walls and furnishings, but are there sets that are meant to be used as platforms like Harrowing Halls is?

One thing that's steered me away from the print-your-own market is that I don't have a working printer on hand. Then there's the price of ink and cardstock on top of that.
#12

Dragoloth

Mar 09, 2010 14:09:52
As far as 3D elements go, I think they're great "lazy" options.  By which I mean they require little effort, and can easily be assembled/disassembled/stored - but other (cheap) tile options can look as good (if not better), for less money.  I'm thinking of the "print your own" products (from a few companies).

So, it's good stuff, if you want something fast and easy (no printing, no cutting, no assembly, etc).



 The dissassembly is what I love, I just don't have the space to store everything I want to build. It might be the "lazy" way but it's also the most easily stored way.
#13

greatfrito

Mar 09, 2010 18:07:48
The dissassembly is what I love, I just don't have the space to store everything I want to build. It might be the "lazy" way but it's also the most easily stored way.


Oh, I agree completely.  They might not be as "fancy" as some options, but the ease-of-use is a major factor.  I can build encounters on-the-fly with Dungeon Tiles - the 3D elements keep that on-the-fly usability, but add a bit of a new dimension (pun!).

Plus, 3D tiles aside, this set is incredibly useful.  Even if it didn't have those 3D tiles, I'd still be buying two (and considering more - seriously, I love these things, and I've wanted interiors forever).

I'm considering getting one of the print-and-build interior sets, though, just for more 3D dressings.  The 3D stuff here is good (and useful), but I want more tables, chairs, doors, etc, etc.

EDIT: The 3D stuff I'm comparing:
Fat Dragon.
WorldWorks.

Both are pretty awesome (I tend to think of WorldWorks as "better", but FatDragon as "easier/more practical), but Harrowing Halls certainly has its place beside them (since it's like a hundred times easier to use, and cheaper in small quantities since you don't need to purchase cardstock/ink).
#14

modern_iconoclast

Mar 10, 2010 10:09:43
I know I've seen print-your-own constructable walls and furnishings, but are there sets that are meant to be used as platforms like Harrowing Halls is?

One thing that's steered me away from the print-your-own market is that I don't have a working printer on hand. Then there's the price of ink and cardstock on top of that.



I've built a few WorldWorks models and it supports miniatures with no problems, even larger ones.
Once glued it is very sturdy.

I can't wait to get my hands on this set though, I've been using home-made platforms for a while and was looking for something more portable.

Is it this set that in its description it states that the cover can be used to store the tiles and can also be used in games or are these container with the new DM sets with 10sheets only?

#15

FreonNoodle

Mar 10, 2010 11:22:32
Is it this set that in its description it states that the cover can be used to store the tiles and can also be used in games or are these container with the new DM sets with 10sheets only?



I believe that's the Dungeon Tiles Master Set and there are three of them: the dungeon, the city and the wilderness.
#16

greatfrito

Mar 10, 2010 11:42:53
Is it this set that in its description it states that the cover can be used to store the tiles and can also be used in games or are these container with the new DM sets with 10sheets only?



I believe that's the Dungeon Tiles Master Set and there are three of them: the dungeon, the city and the wilderness.




Yeah, those are the Master Set tiles only, I believe (Deserts of Athas won't have them either).  That said, I'm expecting that the "container" is really just going to be a paper box that they all come in.

Not bad, but not anything super-spectacular.  Though hey, maybe they could surprise me.
#17

skraig

Mar 15, 2010 10:08:23
I picked it up.  I would say this is the best tiles set. The 3d elements are easy to assemble and fairly sturdy. They look good.  I seem to be one table leg short in the pack (yeah people say that about me all the time )
I will make one out of the flashing.

Nice product and pretty inexpensive.
#18

foulspawn

Mar 15, 2010 12:31:14
You're not one table leg short.
The two shorter table supports are for one of the small tables, the longer table support runs the length of the rectangular table top with one of the smaller supports along its width.
#19

superking

Mar 15, 2010 22:53:49
I thought the same thing that I might have lost one of the legs.  Not the case.  I too am working on making my own leg from the border.  That would be my only one (odd) complaint.

 The set is one of my favorites and the players loved the 3D stairs.
#20

afbeer

Mar 18, 2010 9:57:16
Cool set.

I got a miscut.
The top and bottom stairs are cut in the same way, and not as shown in the 5th picture
in Excerpts: Harrowing Halls URL: www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4... in opposite ways (The additional slit is supposed once in the darker and once in the lighter part).
I have them both in the same location.
#21

tyweise

Mar 23, 2010 13:44:49
Got a set. Put the stairs together, looked at the interior tiles, and went and bought a second set.

Now I'm eyeing the stacks upon stacks of 2x4 plain tiles I have, and contemplating cutting them up to make some more 3D tiles.

And I'm looking forward to putting some of the rooftop tiles from Streets of Shadow on top of the 4x4 elevated boxes to add some elevation to my street fights.
#22

greatfrito

Mar 23, 2010 14:58:59
And I'm looking forward to putting some of the rooftop tiles from Streets of Shadow on top of the 4x4 elevated boxes to add some elevation to my street fights.


Oooooh!  Good idea!
#23

VaultDweller

Mar 24, 2010 12:23:38
And I'm looking forward to putting some of the rooftop tiles from Streets of Shadow on top of the 4x4 elevated boxes to add some elevation to my street fights.

I'd be looking forward to doing that too... if only Streets of Shadow hadn't been out of print for, what, almost a year now?
#24

ADHadh

Mar 24, 2010 16:08:27
You people make want to buy that set RIGHT NOW. And I don't even play (or at least haven't for months).
#25

greatfrito

Mar 24, 2010 18:31:53
I'd be looking forward to doing that too... if only Streets of Shadow hadn't been out of print for, what, almost a year now?


Some of us grabbed 2 of them as soon as they came out though.  So we're set. 

The good news is that, some time later this year, it looks like they're re-releasing most of Streets of Shadow in the new "Master Set: The City".

I guess it pays to be one of the most sought-after (and useful) tiles sets.  (You get to be reprinted... eventually.)

You people make want to buy that set RIGHT NOW. And I don't even play (or at least haven't for months).



Haha, you should!  It's awesome!  You want it!

But seriously, one of the reasons I love the tiles sets is that they stand to be useful in perpetuity.  About half of my RPG-related purchases now are done with that in mind - accessories that will be useful, regardless of edition I'm playing.  It's why I love the Paizo Dungeon Mastery Item and Face cards soooo much as well.
#26

VaultDweller

Mar 24, 2010 20:53:59
Some of us grabbed 2 of them as soon as they came out though.  So we're set. 

I do that with new sets now that I've realized that it's apparently the only way you can actually get them.

The good news is that, some time later this year, it looks like they're re-releasing most of Streets of Shadow in the new "Master Set: The City".

I guess it pays to be one of the most sought-after (and useful) tiles sets.  (You get to be reprinted... eventually.)

Well, I'm sure that will be a great consolation in October.  Not so sure about right now, though.
#27

ADHadh

Mar 25, 2010 11:34:01


Haha, you should!  It's awesome!  You want it!



Stop teasing me! Argh!