Enjoy, though.
Screen shot or it didn't happen.
Enjoy, though.
Agreed.
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp29/srt0819/Picture41.jpg
PH2!
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp29/srt0819/Picture42.jpg
a personal favorite - the Avenger.
Have fun with your book.
Okay, I know this isn't the "What race/class are you?" thread from general, but Cade, you're totally a Gnome Bard. There's just something in the framing of your face that screems gnome at me.
Have fun with your book.
What's with the Bard fetish. I called Pax Bard in that other thread. Just for that I'm throwing my vote into Gnomish Avenger. Avenger I say. Bah! :D
:D
You don't get a prize you know.
:D
Oh yes he does...but it's that funny kinda prize that you get when the audience's eyes all turn green.
You wanted screenshots! haha
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp29/srt0819/Picture41.jpg
PH2!
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp29/srt0819/Picture42.jpg
a personal favorite - the Avenger.
Do... I know you? :O
What state do you live in?
I live in North Carolina.
This is actually my friend's account, but we both use it.
I'm usually a divine or striker class - but hey, you may have inspired me to try being a bard :P
I'm usually a divine or striker class - but hey, you may have inspired me to try being a bard :P
See, eh, eh. What did I say. Divine Striker. Avenger. *nods*
You wanted screenshots! haha
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp29/srt0819/Picture41.jpg
PH2!
http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp29/srt0819/Picture42.jpg
a personal favorite - the Avenger.
These are photoshopped! You can see the door in the background is reversed with his ceiling fan's backwards rotation.
Also, www.bamm.com is showing the PHB2 as "Usually ships in 24 hours."
One books a million by me in florida has it stocked as well. No, he isint lieing. I like how gnomes have ghost sound as an encounter power now :D (i dont think that was spoiled on the site)
Its revealed in the characters for the WWGD. Meaning you haven't actually revealed something you could only know by reading the PHB2 :P
Okay, I know this isn't the "What race/class are you?" thread from general, but Cade, you're totally a Gnome Bard. There's just something in the framing of your face that screems gnome at me.
Have fun with your book.
I cant believe you said that because my favorite character of all time was actually a Gnome thief/illusionist by the name of Glim Fonkin (no I didnt steal the name from the 3rd edition players handbook). It was a first edition character and now that I saw the new gnome I'm REALLY thinking about trying to remake him, if not for a game at least just to play around with everyonce and a while.
Ohh and by the way we do have it and ill prove it by saying the halforc DOESNT get a bonus to CON ;). If that was also known then I'll also say that the Avenger REALLY knowns how to focus on one enemy. I don't want to give anything away, but when you get your book you'll know I wasn't kidding.
We've known that the half-orc is a +2 str +2 dex race for somewhere around a week. So how is that along with an extremely vague statement supposed to convince us that you have it? It isn't like I care, I mean we already have something like 3-5 people giving semit detailed spoilers of the book(one of which has been posting images of the feat list). I'm actually just sort of confused as to the point of this thread.....meh not like I ever get other people.*shrugs*Its revealed in the characters for the WWGD. Meaning you haven't actually revealed something you could only know by reading the PHB2 :P
ohh, well i dident buy it so... i dont remember to much else (i would rather wait a week and save 15 bucks). umm... it seemed to me that from fliping several of the classes had a ton of atwill powers. the shamens path names where like protecting spirit (con if i remember) and some fort of attack name spirit (int if i remember). sorry i cant think of any thing to prove it : /
Either way, he has shown he has no interest in giving spoiler information, and even if he did - he would likely repeat what SBT has already said on another forum in his 69-pg spoiler thread.
That is, if he reveals anything about class powers/features/paragon paths/feats.
If he gives us information about specific background options, that would be new information (which could be verified by asking SBT).
In any case, it doesnt matter if he has it or not. Everyone will have it in 5 days. If he's lying (and Im not saying he is), it would make me feel sorry for him for the fact that he feels the only way to boost his self-esteem is to have spoiler-starved fans hanging on his every word in an online forum........
Thats the epitomy of sad if ever I heard it.
One books a million by me in florida has it stocked as well. No, he isint lieing. I like how gnomes have ghost sound as an encounter power now :D (i dont think that was spoiled on the site)
Cantrips should be at-will powers for Gnomes, in my opinion. It's not like they have any real mechanical effect other than general utility, and why would a Gnome only be able to use Ghost Sounds every five minutes or so?
Wait...what were we talking about again?
Oh yeah...Scarlett Johansson as the Black Widow? I hope she can pull off a Russian accent...
Four very long days.
The rest of us can take solace in the fact that the PH2 is only about four days away from official release.
Four very long days.
Ha I live in FL and am on my way to books a million right now.
I will wait for my copy to arrive of course.
Just saying...
Ha I live in FL and am on my way to books a million right now.
Good when you get back post what the heck Arcane spellfury will do for me. Is is A class feature or feat?
Good when you get back post what the heck Arcane spellfury will do for me. Is is A class feature or feat?
Heroic tier Sorcerer feat. +1 to attack rolls after hitting with a Sorcerer at-will power.
Thats the text from the table of feats for the classes. Unfortunately I don't have the PH2 myself to see the actual duration of that bonus to hit.
Jools' pics of his PH2 here are where that came from, if you were wondering.
Heroic tier Sorcerer feat. +1 to attack rolls after hitting with a Sorcerer at-will power.
Thats the text from the table of feats for the classes. Unfortunately I don't have the PH2 myself to see the actual duration of that bonus to hit.
Jools' pics of his PH2 here are where that came from, if you were wondering.
Thanks a bunch. That clears up the guessing that we were trying to do based on similar feats,
Thanks a bunch. That clears up the guessing that we were trying to do based on similar feats,
It lasts until the end of your next turn.
I dont really know how else to actualy prove that Cole and I have it other than to show you those pictures again (who some people think i photoshopped, lol) or take more of them. But I'll let you all know it's really awesome. And just as others have said - we'll ALL have it come tuesday :]
It really really is. Wish they had done a bit more on backgrounds but oh well its pretty good. Turathi Highborn looks amazing.
So far all we have is "Hey, I've got this book." Well my goodness. Just blow me over with a gentle summers breeze why don't you, though please not before I can alert the media. Not meaning to be rude mind you. It’s just an observation. So spill some info, otherwise this is a whole lot of commotion over quite literally nothing.
As a final point:
If the books are selling in certain stores now, there will be a torrent by tomorrow I guarantee it.
Quoted for truth. A big release like this is going to hit the net quickly. By tomorrow, everyone will have it. Or could anyway.....
~Bizkit
I've got to wonder, what is the point of this thread exactly?
OP is happy they have the book earlier than they thought they would. Didn't seem that cryptic to me.
It lasts until the end of your next turn.
Thanks for adding that clarification. I figured thats what it would be, but didn't want to give a guess as to the duration.
OP is happy they have the book earlier than they thought they would. Didn't seem that cryptic to me.
You're correct, it isn't cryptic in the slightest, but that hardly indicates that there's a point. Perhaps I feel a need to question it because of my specific background as it pertains to message boards. Threads are generally created to generate discussion. More specifically, they're meant to generate discussion that deals with a topic loosely related to the subforum in which they're posted.
In the case of this subforum, we're meant to be discussing future releases to some extent in any thread posted here, be it in the form of rumour/speculation or because some hard piece of evidence has been leaked and ends up making the 'rounds. This thread is going end up comprised of posts that say little else other than:
"Yay! I have this book early!"
"Good for you!"
"I'm going to the same store to get mine early."
"Darn, I wish I could get it now."
"Gee, only four more days until I can get it."
So on and so forth. What's the point? Threads like this belong in a general discussion subforum at best, and more aptly in an off-topic subforum where the entire idea is for people to make generally pointless comments.
So again, unless people intend on giving us information on what is still currently a future release, why is this here? If it's not posing a point for discussion, then it shouldn't exist.
Before I part ways though, I offer up the reason that I only ask this question because my own membership/mod history (especially the latter) on other boards would see a thread like this get shutdown as spam before it hit page two unless people starting spilling the beans.
Make of it what you will.
~Bizkit
Edit:
For those that are complaining about wanting info from it, ask for it, and i'll provide. I'm not gonna write out the book on here, haha.
This is what I'm talking about. This thread now has a purpose beyond being a spam dump. I concede my point.
You're correct, it isn't cryptic in the slightest, but that hardly indicates that there's a point. Perhaps I feel a need to question it because of my specific background as it pertains to message boards. Threads are generally created to generate discussion. More specifically, they're meant to generate discussion that deals with a topic loosely related to the subforum in which they're posted.
In the case of this subforum, we're meant to be discussing future releases to some extent in any thread posted here, be it in the form of rumour/speculation or because some hard piece of evidence has been leaked and ends up making the 'rounds. This thread is going end up comprised of posts that say little else other than:
"Yay! I have this book early!"
"Good for you!"
"I'm going to the same store to get mine early."
"Darn, I wish I could get it now."
"Gee, only four more days until I can get it."
So on and so forth. What's the point? Threads like this belong in a general discussion subforum at best, and more aptly in an off-topic subforum where the entire idea is for people to make generally pointless comments.
So again, unless people intend on giving us information on what is still currently a future release, why is this here? If it's not posing a point for discussion, then it shouldn't exist.
Before I part ways though, I offer up the reason that I only ask this question because my own membership/mod history (especially the latter) on other boards would see a thread like this get shutdown as spam before it hit page two unless people starting spilling the beans.
Make of it what you will.
~Bizkit
Edit:
This is what I'm talking about. This thread now has a purpose beyond being a spam dump. I concede my point.
I completely understand your point on that. I originally intended it to be up for questioning - but the only questions I were getting were questions on whether I was lying. :P
I completely understand your point on that. I originally intended it to be up for questioning - but the only questions I were getting were questions on whether I was lying. :P
Just go to one of the other question asking threads and start answering questions posed by people in those threads that have yet to be answered yet. Then everyone's happy!:D
As a final point:
"If the books are selling in certain stores now, there will be a torrent by tomorrow I guarantee it."
Quoted for truth. A big release like this is going to hit the net quickly. By tomorrow, everyone will have it. Or could anyway.....
Actually, no.
But look on the bright side: you've both shown yourself to be honorable men, who have little knowledge of this torrid torrent business... ;)
Actually, no.
But look on the bright side: you've both shown yourself to be honorable men, who have little knowledge of this torrid torrent business... ;)
I love real stuff compared to computer text. I love having a book in my hand rather than searching through a pdf, you can't haul a computer to your lap and read it before you fall asleep... well maybe a laptop you can but I don't have one
though those get hot and made my legs sweat like something else with those covers on too. =) who wants a clumsy pdf when you got the book? ^_^ NOT ME!Not sure how much I can reveal without it being a breach of the CoC, but I am willing to give a handful of [paraphrased] spoilers.
I might get a digital version to go with my hardcopy since it is a PHB and can be handy having a digital copy for quick reference when I don't have the hardcopy handy since I'm more likely to have my laptop than my books most of the time.
I agree with others though, having a hardcopy book is nice for reading. The digital stuff is handy for quick rules lookups though. An editable digital format would be really handy so I could embed the errata into it
Just got back from the store with a shiny PH2 in hand, so I can confirm that at least some places are selling them [not that 4 days early makes a world of difference, but meh].
Not sure how much I can reveal without it being a breach of the CoC, but I am willing to give a handful of [paraphrased] spoilers.
Do Shaman's stand out as Leaders? Do they focus on buffing, healing, giving extra actions or something else entirely?
Do Shaman's stand out as Leaders? Do they focus on buffing, healing, giving extra actions or something else entirely?
Sorry, haven't had the chance to look at the classes in that much detail yet... At a quick glance, their Spirit powers give them a controllerish feel (but maybe thats just me).
If you want to know something more specific, I would be happy to ablige.
Oh, and for those who are interested - I absolutely love the Glorious Spirit ED.
1/round they can deal considerable striker-damage (+2d8) to a specific enemy*, and if that wasnt enough, 1/encounter they can teleport adjacent to any creature they can see!!!
The best part - this ED is open to any primal character!
*Unfortunately, they can only designate 1 target/encounter [BBEG anyone?]
Does it truly matter whether the OP is lying or not about having the PH2....
Either way, he has shown he has no interest in giving spoiler information, and even if he did - he would likely repeat what SBT has already said on another forum in his 69-pg spoiler thread.
That is, if he reveals anything about class powers/features/paragon paths/feats.
If he gives us information about specific background options, that would be new information (which could be verified by asking SBT).
In any case, it doesnt matter if he has it or not. Everyone will have it in 5 days. If he's lying (and Im not saying he is), it would make me feel sorry for him for the fact that he feels the only way to boost his self-esteem is to have spoiler-starved fans hanging on his every word in an online forum........
Thats the epitomy of sad if ever I heard it.
I don't think the OP's point in posting that he had it was anything other than a sort of ...na na na na na...thing. Amazon Japan shipped it to their clients the second it arrived in their warehouses and have had it for like almost 2 weeks.
This was nothing more than a taunt and possibly a head's up to folks in FL who could drive down to the store and pick one up early...I know if I lived there I would. I saw last night that I could order it from them online and theoretically, if I paid like $20 extra it would arrive tomorrow, but I already have 2 copies coming for my sons, plan on buying the PDF at midnight Monday and picking up my own copy at the local BN (with my 20% off coupon) Tuesday morning when they open.
Now if he really wanted to impress me, he'd take shots of all the avenger pages other than the first two which were already leaked to the internets...but I'm not holding my breath.
So congrats to the OP enjoy the book...you've got it one weekend before me...
Save its 30th level ability, I would have to rank the Lorekeeper as one of the least powerful Epic Destinies, but one whose powers are the most coherent with its theme. Its abilities capture the essence of the Sage archetype perfectly, although fall well below the power-curve from a power-gamers perspective.
- 24th: Roll 2x for Ritual skill checks; double Casting Time to reduce component cost; Critical Hits grant +2 Attack 1/rnd.
- 26th: True Name - Encounter; You + Allies get +INT or +WIS mod to damage rolls vs. single creature.
- 30th: 2 daily utility powers become encounter powers.
If people are looking for places to score one early other walden books may have them as well.
(It might be a borders, I can't tell the two apart)
Let me just say I was super impressed with the book and it exceeded every expectation I had for it. Only thing that looked average was the invoker, which I already had sort of low hopes for. Everything else was cool looking. (I did skip reading gnomes though) Made me long to play my old half orc rogue from 3.5 again. (he was hilareous)
It's good/bad/awesome?
Which epic destinies are allowed for avengers?
Can you show any epic feats for the avenger?
Pretty, pretty, please. Thanks in advance.
It grants the ability to reroll Nat 1s*, stun enemies who roll nat 1s*, make a save/spend healing surge when an enemy is dropped, and gains temp HP on a complete miss.
Their daily utility is pure awesome: All enemies within 3 squares of you grant combat advantage to allies, cannot teleport, and take 5 dam each time they miss with an attack*
*Each of these abilities is awesome for a controller/multi-attacker, but bad news for an enemy controller/multi-attacker.
Avenger Epic Feats (1): The avenger has 1 epic feat (Mighty Emity), which allows them to pick 2 oath targets 1/encounter.
If the books are selling in certain stores now, there will be a torrent by tomorrow I guarantee it.
I will wait for my copy to arrive of course.
Just saying...
True story about the .torrent.
Any sites offering it as a legit download yet? I checked drivethrurpg but it wasn't there yet. There are others aren't there for getting a legit electronic copy of the book, aren't there? My physical copy is in the mail right now... got an email from Borders that it was shipped. Should get it any day now.
Now, if only they'd update the Character Builder, I'd be in business!
cadeblade7, What are the Druid's paragon classes? Are they just all kinds of awesome?
Avengers are sweet, but I don't know how I'll implement them yet. Looks like Razorclaw shifters will be one of the best races for them.
Half-Orcs are the new Brutal Scoundrels.
Racial Paragon Paths rock HARD. Dragonborn with wings, as promised in Races and Classes.
No love for the drow and genasi though, at all. Althugh they are mentioned in the section about backgrounds.
@Koesherbacon-
Druid PPs are: Sky Hunter (as in the preview), Blood Moon stalker (which focuses on Beast Form), Guardian of the Living Gate (looks like Eberron's Gatekeeper sect), and Keeper of the Hidden Flame (caster druid PP, uses a familiar face for the pic - Vadania, iconic 3e druid).
And finally....
ZOMG Sorcerers!!
True story about the .torrent.
Actually, no: we all now that the "leaked" PDFs come directly from WotC, or at least from the printer (they have typographical indications all around).
And I've yet to see a torrent for PHB II.Lorekeeper
Save its 30th level ability, I would have to rank the Lorekeeper as one of the least powerful Epic Destinies, but one whose powers are the most coherent with its theme. Its abilities capture the essence of the Sage archetype perfectly, although fall well below the power-curve from a power-gamers perspective.
- 24th: Roll 2x for Ritual skill checks; double Casting Time to reduce component cost; Critical Hits grant +2 Attack 1/rnd.
- 26th: True Name - Encounter; You + Allies get +INT or +WIS mod to damage rolls vs. single creature.
- 30th: 2 daily utility powers become encounter powers.
Thank you for this. It does seem a little... light on the actual power, save for the abilities it gets at its very last level, but you're right, it is sagacious. I might just have to take it instead of Demigod or Archmage.
(I have been a little apprehensive.)
As far as the feats go, they seem reasonable IMO save WE/IE, which (IMO) should have only granted a +1 bonus at Heroic/Paragon, and +2 at Epic. Again, I havent looked at the feats too closely yet.
Honestly, I will leave it to the ChaOp people to figure out the power creep, although there is some really nice powers that (on the surface) seem incredibly powerful.... (eg. Dazzling Ray). Then again, the sorc isnt the only class with a 6d6 daily at 1st level (most 3[W] powers are capable of the same damage output).
Actually, no: we all now that the "leaked" PDFs come directly from WotC, or at least from the printer (they have typographical indications all around).
The first ones did, I'm told. Of course, I have no first-hand knowledge of such underhanded dealings, but reliable sources inform me that lately the pirated pdf:s rather look as if they were bought from drivethru and then had the watermarks removed. In any case, they're certainly not scans.
And drivethru only releases pdf:s on the official release date. Ergo, no torrents until then.
Couldn't tell you TBH as I haven't had more than a passing glance at each individual power (and have yet to compare them to their PH1 counterparts).
As far as the feats go, they seem reasonable IMO save WE/IE, which (IMO) should have only granted a +1 bonus at Heroic/Paragon, and +2 at Epic. Again, I havent looked at the feats too closely yet.
Honestly, I will leave it to the ChaOp people to figure out the power creep, although there is some really nice powers that (on the surface) seem incredibly powerful.... (eg. Dazzling Ray). Then again, the sorc isnt the only class with a 6d6 daily at 1st level (most 3[W] powers are capable of the same damage output).
Id say its pretty balanced. The only thing I think is that the arcane characters in the phb need a boost up in power from arcane power. Not much of one just a little bit of a leg up. I will say that this book actually makes me want to play a barbarian for the first time ever. The class is actually really interesting. The only other power creep is Im concerned that Devas get a little too much for racial buffs. But I like everything else in the book.
As an aside Drow and Genasai already have racial Paragon paths in Forgotten Realms Players guide so they did not need them in this book. Turathi Highborn does look amazing for my tiefling warlock.
sorry i cant think of any thing to prove it : /
I was just kidding around ;)
Just got back from the store with a shiny PH2 in hand, so I can confirm that at least some places are selling them [not that 4 days early makes a world of difference, but meh].
It makes a huge difference to gaming stores that abide by the street date, as those who can't wait 4 days will take their custom somewhere else.
Four very long days.
You think you've got a long wait. I can't afford it until at least October (assuming I get to start a Eberron home campaign as I hope to).
On the bright side I've got 9 characters that are level 1 that I want to progress to at least level 4 before I start playing PHB2 characters. Each character has a unique purpose:
* A gnoll rogue who I'm making into a gladiator
* A rogue whose simply a brute thug who will work for the highest employer.
* A rogue who claims to be a travelling merchant but in reality simply uses it as a cover to sell his ill-gotten wares
* A beast-master ranger
* An archer ranger
* A two-weapon fighting dahmpyr ranger who seeks out a missing hero from his country in order to save it from a a power neighbouring country and possibly even gain acceptance for himself one day.
* A warlock
* A Warlord
* A Dwarven Fighter whose part of a clan that my friends are in.
On the other hand they're all LFR characters so they'll take approximately 63 games to get to level 4. Given I'm now often DMing, that could take until the end of next year. So its quite possible I won't wait that long :P
One books a million by me in florida has it stocked as well. No, he isint lieing. I like how gnomes have ghost sound as an encounter power now :D (i dont think that was spoiled on the site)
People actually play gnomes? (sorry, couldn't resist)
In any case, it doesnt matter if he has it or not. Everyone will have it in 5 days. If he's lying (and Im not saying he is), it would make me feel sorry for him for the fact that he feels the only way to boost his self-esteem is to have spoiler-starved fans hanging on his every word in an online forum........
Thats the epitomy of sad if ever I heard it.
I don't think the OP's point in posting that he had it was anything other than a sort of ...na na na na na...thing. Amazon Japan shipped it to their clients the second it arrived in their warehouses and have had it for like almost 2 weeks.
This was nothing more than a taunt
Are we really this bitter? Someone comes on to do a "happy dance" and share their joy and make us part of it and this is the best response choice we can offer? I think this sinks us to an all-new low.
While it failed to come across in my writing, I was actually trying to say that there is no good reason for the OP to be lying about having the PH2 early, and that it would require someone to have a very low self-opinion of themselves if they felt the only way to gain attention was to lie about having a pre-release product to spoiler-starved fans.
For the record: I believed the OP. The only reason I worded my post the way I did, was due to the fact that I was attempting to appeal to the PoV of the nay-sayers (those who claimed he was lying), and show them how illogical it would be for the OP to be lying, esp. in light of the fact that (almost) everyone will have it on Tuesday.
Now, I could understand someone lying about having it a month or two ahead of the release date, but 5 days.... Thats just illogical, and (on the off-chance) that someone actually did lie about having it so close to the release date - I would feel sorry for them.
I was just trying to be diplomatic and appeal to the PoV of the nay-sayers so that they would listen (and back off). In hindsight, I should have just shut them down without being diplomatic lol
/me passes Glimeral an AA-12 and several loaded drums ...
Don't forget to aim this way - I probably need some buckshot myself...
The rest of us can take solace in the fact that the PH2 is only about four days away from official release.
Four very long days.
Yes they days will be long but you know i've had been tearing sheets of paper off a pad ever since i first heard about it coming out so I think i can wait just a few more... even if it IS getting to be harder and harder to wait.
Yes they days will be long but you know i've had been tearing sheets of paper off a pad ever since i first heard about it coming out so I think i can wait just a few more... even if it IS getting to be harder and harder to wait.
Well if you have any specific questions just ask.
Well if you have any specific questions just ask.
What do the sorcerer's paragon paths look like? Anything interesting for the dragon sorcerers that makes them more viable for melee? There already appears to be a feat that gives dragon sorcerer's temporary hit points on an at-will strike.
*snip* ...even if it IS getting to be harder and harder to wait.
Do what I do: Calmly push the thought of the PHBII to the back of your mind and focus on something else entirely. I plan to order my PHBII online, so I won't even have the book in the next few days, maybe by this coming Friday though. Either way I'm patient enough to wait. The book isn't going anywhere, and neither am I.
...Or tonight, actually. Score.
Well if you have any specific questions just ask.
Details on Half-orc? (race basics, and the 3 race-based feats)
TIA!
What do the sorcerer's paragon paths look like? Anything interesting for the dragon sorcerers that makes them more viable for melee? There already appears to be a feat that gives dragon sorcerer's temporary hit points on an at-will strike.
Well my favorite paragon path is for the other build. Wild Mage. Looks really really cool. Arcanewellspring has an encounter power of getting wings. Dragonsoul Heir is all about healing and temporary HP. One of the level 11 things you gain is 2 extra healing surges.
Not so much on the melee side. Though there is one power that is melee. Everything else is either close burst/close blast or ranged. Though quite a few are range of 5. While some are range 20. A lot of blast and bursts though. It seems to be a cross between striker and controller, except where the warlock gets effects the sorcerer gets multi target.
It still says "Not Yet Dispatched"...
Daniel.
The ability bonuses for Half-Orc surprised me a little. What really surprised me is them getting Giant as their extra language instead of Goblin. Devas are, overall, cool. Since I think they were a bit overdone, I'm sure most will find them pretty friggin' sweet (as it seems to usually go). Gnomes rule. Honestly, I think the Goliaths are a smidge underpowered. Shifters are pretty much the same - just choose either Liono or Cheetara and go.
I'd have to say that Warden is my favorite class in there.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the backgrounds write-up. I'll have to give that another read before I decide if I like it or not.
Daniel.
On the sorc PPs, which are for which path? Is there a neutral PP?
Arcane wellspring is neutral. Wild Mage is of course for the wild, and dragonsoul heir is for the draconic. There is one more neutral one wich looks like the old acolyte of the skin. Called Demonskin Adept. All in all plenty of options for the sorcerer.
I take it we have:
New Races
New Classes
New Feats
New Epic Destinies
Errata
but what else?
Any new Skills, weapons, equipment, magic items (must be some of those), anything else?
What are the full contents of the book?
I take it we have:
New Races
New Classes
New Feats
New Epic Destinies
Errata
but what else?
Any new Skills, weapons, equipment, magic items (must be some of those), anything else?
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/excerpts/excerpt_ph2_toc.pdf
The ability bonuses for Half-Orc surprised me a little. What really surprised me is them getting Giant as their extra language instead of Goblin. Devas are, overall, cool. Since I think they were a bit overdone, I'm sure most will find them pretty friggin' sweet (as it seems to usually go). Gnomes rule. Honestly, I think the Goliaths are a smidge underpowered. Shifters are pretty much the same - just choose either Liono or Cheetara and go.
I should stop reading this thread or else I'm going to end up buying the book :P
Sad Fact: Amazon will always ship out "now orders" over "pre-orders" on any product they carry, once that stock become available. Always.
With Amazon, don't pre-order anything. Always wait till the day of to make an order, then expect to see it at your door in 1-3 days time, depending on what shipping you use of course. I made my purchase today, and I expect to see it by at least the 19th. No pre-order, no fuss, no worries.
Sad Fact: Amazon will always ship out "now orders" over "pre-orders" on any product they carry, once that stock become available. Always.
I preorder from Amazon all the time and get it the day of or maybe a day or two later when I choose standard shipping. In fact, my PHB2 was sent out to be shipped Sunday and should be here tomorrow.
Only once had a problem with them back when I ordered Libris Mortis when it came out, they sent me an apology and said the would send one next day for free when they got more in.
I was supposed to have my copy from amazon uk today, but it iwas still saying still not dispatched just logged on to see if any luck, and got a message saying "we are unable to deliever until 31st march. im fuming as i would have ordered elsewhere... no explaination just no book
7th of April for me. I gather this is WotC's doing, rather than Amazon, though. They apparently don't really want British people playing their game, since they don't send anywhere near enough copies of their books to British retailers. It's not just Amazon that's affected by this.
To quote the rather frustrated guy at my local book shop: "We don't know what they're playing at. We might not even order any more Dungeons & Dragons books from Wizards since they've been so unreliable."
They are constantly understocked: the D&D shelf is always half to two-thirds empty and new releases don't come in until weeks after the official release date, and then they only get one or two copies (which sell out pretty much instantly, of course).
That's a shelf that could be (and it sounds like it will be) filled with more White Wolf and Games Workshop books. At least those companies seem capable of supplying enough stock to meet the demand.
Quite excellent...
Also very happy with the contents of the book so far. I had planned to skim the races (especially goliath and half-orc) but surprisingly found myself interested throughout and read the entire chapter. I especially loved all the races artwork!
(I have never wanted to play a gnome or a half-orc, ever, before now.)From the impression I get so far the book looks to be really well done. I'm excited to read more.
We are sorry to report that the following items have been delayed:
Wizards RPG Team "Player's Handbook 2: A 4th Edition D&d Supplement
(D&d Core Rulebook D&d Core Rulebook): Bk.2 (Dungeons & Dragons)"
[Hardcover]
Estimated arrival date: 31/03/09 - 08/04/09
We are sorry for any inconvenience this causes.
I even paid for extra fast delivery to make sure I'd get it this week...
Daniel.
We have listed the item(s) below with the expected delivery date(s):
Wizards RPG Team "Player's Handbook 2: A 4th Edition D&d Supplement
(D&d Core Rulebook D&d Core Rulebook): Bk.2 (Dungeons & Dragons)"
[Hardcover]
Estimated arrival date: 02/04/09 - 24/04/09
The UK must be massively understocked...
Daniel.
hank you for contacting Amazon.co.uk
Firstly I would like to apologise for the length of time it took us to inform you that the delay in dispatching your item "Player's Handbook 2: A 4th Edition D&d Supplement (D&d Core Rulebook D&d Core Rulebook): Bk.2 (Dungeons & Dragons)".
We were working hard with our suppliers to obtain further stock and improve on our availability estimate, but much of this is dependent on further updates from the vendors themselves.
Unfortunately, our reliance on suppliers and manufacturers for information about their stock means that, occasionally, our database will not reflect all changes.
Please note that the availability and dispatch times listed on our website are estimates only while we do our best to adhere to these estimates, our inventory is constantly changing based on information we receive directly from our suppliers.
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Which i take to mean its pot luck who got a copy and who didnt, the other offers for a copy start at £26 so above the retail value plus postage within 3-7days in other words useless.
Tried other suppliers but still awaiting a confirmed delivery time..
If it is a wizards issue im really not very impressed.... as i have been waiting a long time for the book and dont want to wait another two weeks
[ http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=60481 ]
Then you'd have a digital copy as well as a hardcopy.
Still, when three players out of a group of seven buy a copy of a book (and a fourth is still considering) you know your doing something right.
I have to confess I decided not to buy a copy of the PHP2 when three of my players showed up to our game with copies in tow.
Still, when three players out of a group of seven buy a copy of a book (and a fourth is still considering) you know your doing something right.
I think everyone in my group is going to eventually get it. But then our group is pretty good about having the books. The only book that not everyone has is martial power and only the dm and guy playing the fighter has it. Though I will be buying arcane power the minute it hits the shelves.
Could you guys who are having trouble with Amazon.uk download a PDF from RPGNow?
[ http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=60481 ]
Then you'd have a digital copy as well as a hardcopy.
dont like digital books personally, get a headache from the screen, and more importantly cant read it away from the computer. also dont have the money to buy two copies of the same book, seems wasteful when you consider the finical crisis the uk is in.
if anyone uk people waitin on amazon were intrested thought i would let you know iguk have sent me a dispatch confirmation for my players handbook 2 within twenty four hours, which im most gratefull for.
Thanks for that. Looks like they have 3 copies in stock. Well... 2 copies now. I'm going to wait for them to email me to confirm they've dispatched it before I cancel my Amazon order, though.
Amazon are significantly cheaper than IGUK, but I'm willing to pay a bit more to know I'll have the book within days rather than weeks, since I travel a lot, often at short notice. I'm likely to be out of the country by the time Amazon can send me the book.
Good luck getting something sorted, I'd be really annoyed if they'd pulled that on me.
So I'm eager to get from work ^_^
£26, though, which roughly matches the US price thanks to the crappy exchange rate we have now, but its more expensive than a proper UK one should be (roughly £20).
Still, sadly the highlight of my day and probably the month :*(