I just searched and to my knowledge , please correct me if I am wrong, there are no miniature representations for Wisps, Fairies, Pixies or sprites. Why? Please Mr. Lee add these to the wish list for Monster Manual 3 & future Miniature Sets. I am very surprised that this group have been overlooked.
Also I can't wait for them to bring back the Rast and Yrthrak.
On a side note, I'm also surprised that they havn't made any stats for "typical" elementals. It seems the only elementals that can escape the Elemental Chaos are hybrids...
I agree. When I started DnD again and bought a plethora of minis for my game, I was surprised that when I typed in "Fairy," "Pixie," "Nixie," "Sprite," and "Wisp," nothing showed up. I ended up using lil clear markers for the figs during the battle. Very surprised that 4th edition would have a whole realm dedicated to fey (Feywild) and yet wouldn't have any stats or minis for the creatures that first come to mind when someone thinks, "Fey."
On a side note, I'm also surprised that they havn't made any stats for "typical" elementals. It seems the only elementals that can escape the Elemental Chaos are hybrids...
Great point, I was discussing this with a felow DM who also found it very odd there were no standard Elementals. They've got some great miniatures for elementals. Come on WoTC get with it!
On a side note, I'm also surprised that they havn't made any stats for "typical" elementals. It seems the only elementals that can escape the Elemental Chaos are hybrids...
Monster Manual 2 has some, although they're not called "Large Earth Elemental".
Great point, I was discussing this with a felow DM who also found it very odd there were no standard Elementals. They've got some great miniatures for elementals. Come on WoTC get with it!
So do fire and ice archons not count?
Unless they used mythological animals. Griffons? Yeah, those are everywhere. Blink dog? Now that's just silly.
So do fire and ice archons not count?
Kinda but what we were getting at is A water elemental. Like the large miniature they have for it. Also a Large Fire Elemental and a Huge Fire Elemental again they have miniatures for these...nice ones at that. Also a Large Ice Elemental.
Are there not any other Dungeon Masters finding this a bit odd? Especially if you DMed back in the Advanced D&D days.
I find it very odd and like the rest of you I also find it odd why there are no NORMAL Elementals in either monster manual... and no an Archon is not a Normal ELEMENTAL.
I use to fear running into fairies and pixies as I played a neutral evil wizzy who would always have to attack them on sight. I was killed more than once but it was fun. Are you all sure there are no minis for any of the common fey?
I find it very odd and like the rest of you I also find it odd why there are no NORMAL Elementals in either monster manual... and no an Archon is not a Normal ELEMENTAL.
Since the elemental planes became the elemental chaos the new elementals are normal, IMHO.
Bel
Since the elemental planes became the elemental chaos the new elementals are normal, IMHO.
Bel
I think the new hybrid elementals are great! But to not release any statistics or data on a plain fire elemental or water elemental just because they renamed it "Elemental Chaos" is just plain dumb. Let 4e DMs use those lil 3rd edition elemental miniatures for what they're intended.
Edit: I don't mind creating my own stats for the elementals I wanna use, but it's good to have a basis that's considered canon.
Personally, I like the direction fey and elemental creatures have gone in 4e. Cute and diminutive fairies are really a fairly modern invention anyways and don't have much to do with the original mythology. To me, fey should be dangerous, unpredictable, strangely amoral, and just a little bit. . . off.
Now, that shouldn't stop little spell casting fairies from existing and I'm sure they will come around eventually. However, until then 4E custom monster making really is quite easy. If your interested in small enchanter fairy's make some and post them on the monster boards, you'll probably get some good feedback.
I imagine the lack of miniatures for tiny fey in previous editions had as much to do with practicality as anything else. I am no expert, but sculpting a fairy sized miniature has to be difficult. I bet they would either require higher precision equipment (thus making the tiny miniatures actually more expensive!) or come out looking no better then a blob of brightly colored plastic.
Personally, I like the direction fey and elemental creatures have gone in 4e. Cute and diminutive fairies are really a fairly modern invention anyways and don't have much to do with the original mythology. To me, fey should be dangerous, unpredictable, strangely amoral, and just a little bit. . . off.
Now, that shouldn't stop little spell casting fairies from existing and I'm sure they will come around eventually. However, until then 4E custom monster making really is quite easy. If your interested in small enchanter fairy's make some and post them on the monster boards, you'll probably get some good feedback.
Did you ever fight a fairy in old versions of D&D? They were not always so nice, or at least my DM didn't play them as such. They could bring fairies back as unaligned and they don't have to have them look like twinker bell. 4e really needs stuff like this as too many monsters are hack n slash or variations of a theme.
I did think of the fact that they may be a bit tricker to make because of their size but look at some of the very cool Kobold models, and they're very small. Just make them rare.
I did find willow wisps on page 290 of MM2. The miniature for them would be easy as pie to make.
Personally, I like the direction fey and elemental creatures have gone in 4e. Cute and diminutive fairies are really a fairly modern invention anyways and don't have much to do with the original mythology. To me, fey should be dangerous, unpredictable, strangely amoral, and just a little bit. . . off.
I don't think that there are enough different fey in 4e and that it's a bit boring. Fairies, brownies, sprites etc can be made to be a bit more nasty and entirely fit in with 4e. like nyde said they don't have to look like Tinkerbell (not Twinker Bell NYDE lol).
As a female I find 3.5 more fun as I loved the 3.5 Druid much better than the 4e version. I still play 4e but I'd love to see more fey to give us females new and cool monsters to interact with. Roleplaying against pixies and fairies would be a lot of fun.
Hope 5E get rid of Elemental Chaos.
I did find willow wisps on page 290 of MM2. The miniature for them would be easy as pie to make.
Certainly!
Simply make a small base with thick card stock or foam board and stick a round-headed pin in the middle.
If this is the case, it would make more sense for such creatures to be so unavailable in the MM's out so far. I remember the difficult situations that a Nymph would create when I was an early D&D player - she, too, is missing from the mix.
I love fey. I ran a dark fey campaign once; one ambitious fey was more than enough for the campaign foil. I threw in a bit of house-rule stuff (time distortion traveling down an eerie path that showed up in the woods at midnight, lots of "playful" but dangerous traps), and it worked out really well. Definitely are able to play up the "off" side of things as was mentioned above.