Minatures

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#1

bramoman

May 03, 2010 19:01:40
Wizards should definitely come out with some miniatures packs for specific monsters like "Kobalds" or "Goblins" ect. because I've found it incredibly frustrating that I have to use my friends Heroscape minis that he already has because non of us are willing to our in the large amounts of money hoping to get the right minins for our campaigns. And I know people will say " Well just by singles" it's almost more expensive than trying to buy packs. Thoughts? Discuss.
#2

joydyhee

May 03, 2010 22:25:36

What if they came up with this but charged you an extrordinary amount for it?

That being said, I agree with the fact that they should produce this, but more for planning/practical purposes.  I will spend the money regardless, I'd just rather save some time looking for specific groups of minis.
#3

hellfyre

May 04, 2010 7:21:21
I'd like encounter packs myself.  Maybe do something like:

Ambush at Redegar Hill


D&D Adventure Supplement


Need a complete encounter for your players this evening?  Here it is!

Ambush at Redegar Hill
presents a fully detailed, ready to use encounter, complete with a double-sided battle map, 10 Orc minatures in 3 poses, monster and NPC statistics, and an encounter book with ideas on how to incorporate this into your next game.  This supplement is idea for Dungeon Masters looking for an intense encounter that fits into their existing D&D campaign.

Item Details


Item Code: 756E7075626C6973686564
Release Date: Maybe in the Future?
Format: Box Set
Page Count: 20 pages
Price: $19.95 C$24.95
ISBN: 83-111-109-101-100-97-121

I know I'd buy a few ;)
#4

Tharag_Bocc

May 04, 2010 9:53:30
And I know people will say " Well just by singles" it's almost more expensive than trying to buy packs.

If you're concerned about overall cost than just buy full cases (shipping boxes containing 8-12 packs depending on set).  Choose 2-3 sets with a selection you like then get 2-3 cases of each and you should find yourself with most of the minis you could ever desire (using singles to round out such any perceived holes).  It means putting all your money up front, but it's a good investment and reasonably affordable if everyone in the group chips in over the course of a year or so.  Any group that plays D&D regularly (once every week or two) should be able to make great use of the variety of minis acquired.

Most complaints that useful minis can't be acquired because of random packaging are due to short sightedness.  Stop thinking about the needs of only a single session or adventure and instead start thinking about the kinds of minis that will be useful for years to come.  Build your collection.  You may have to make lots of substitutions early on, but as your collection grows you will increasingly often be able to field a perfect set of monsters.
#5

hatsuma

May 04, 2010 11:13:05
In my opinion, a 2-D picture of a dragon is a better representative of a dragon than a 3-D miniature of a purple worm.  You'll never have the right mini for every creature. 

Give up on minis, print tokens instead.
#6

doctorhook

May 04, 2010 12:43:20
In my opinion, a 2-D picture of a dragon is a better representative of a dragon than a 3-D miniature of a purple worm.  You'll never have the right mini for every creature. 

Give up on minis, print tokens instead.

Speaking as a recovering plasticrack addict, I'm with this guy/girl^.

The minis perfectly represent D&D characters and monsters, and they generally look pretty damn good, no doubt about it. However, the more you buy, the more you tend to feel you need, because even if you've got twelve zombie minis, you think, "Oh, shoot, I still need six more for that one encounter!" Or, you find yourself needing three or four copies of the same Rare mini for a different encounter. (The Fire Archon was a great example of this.) If accurate representation is your goal, you'll just keep buying minis, and you still never have enough of the right ones. Worse, you might spend $30 or more on minis that you only plan to use for the one encounter. The problem isn't that there aren't enough minis available, but rather that the average gamer can't even come close to affording all the ones you'll want.

This is why tokens rock: they're perfectly accurate (after all, they're pictures right out of the MM), and they're dirt cheap compared to minis. Die-cut cardboard tokens rock for common monsters, but for the weird'n'wacky ones, it still only costs pennies to make your own.

Tokens rock. Go tokens!
#7

bramoman

May 04, 2010 17:51:30
I'd like encounter packs myself.  Maybe do something like:

Ambush at Redegar Hill


D&D Adventure Supplement


Need a complete encounter for your players this evening?  Here it is!

Ambush at Redegar Hill
presents a fully detailed, ready to use encounter, complete with a double-sided battle map, 10 Orc minatures in 3 poses, monster and NPC statistics, and an encounter book with ideas on how to incorporate this into your next game.  This supplement is idea for Dungeon Masters looking for an intense encounter that fits into their existing D&D campaign.

Item Details


Item Code: 756E7075626C6973686564
Release Date: Maybe in the Future?
Format: Box Set
Page Count: 20 pages
Price: $19.95 C$24.95
ISBN: 83-111-109-101-100-97-121

I know I'd buy a few ;)

That sounds perfect.

Tokens just doen't work as well for me, they lose the feel of the game for me.

#8

22_Over_7

May 04, 2010 18:20:25
They tried a similar product (w/o minis though) - Fantastic Locations - back in 3.X days.  Didn't go so well, and they wound up moving to Dungeon Tiles.

If you want lots of the same kind of mini, you can try Warhammer (of course, you have to paint and assemble them yourself).  There are eBay retailers that offer packages of minis the way you want.  I think Paizo does (or did, at least) the same.
#9

notnimlessur

May 13, 2010 19:49:45
Downloaded graphics + photo finish printer paper = AMAZING!!!!

Optionally, you can stick them to something like this...

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001WAK5X4/ref...

#10

denlo

May 17, 2010 8:08:48

A kobold pack and similiar packs would be nice. Like 8 kobold minions, 4 dragon shields, 4 slingers, 2 casters, 2 chieftain types.

orcs could be: 6 orc minions, 6 orc grunts, 4 orc archers, 2 casters, 2 cheiftain types.

they could do the same for gnolls, goblins, bugbears, undead, troglodyte ect...

they could even do a wolf pack. like 6 grey wolves, 4 dire wolves, 4 werewolves, 1 werewolf stormcaller.

#11

sortell

May 18, 2010 1:33:31
I have just begun to move from RPTools to miniature and have noticed a huge lack in amount of random encounter type monsters. 
Not everything the PCs fight needs to be uberspecial.
Also, all wizards need their familiars and druids/rangers their animal companions.

then from there, there are still some of staple monsters from the MM that are missing.
We really don't need so many repeats.

As for goblins and such, at least you CAN find them in other miniature lines.
What you can't find is the many copyrighted monsters that have not been made.

There is a lack of shadow type monsters which is surprising since the plane of shadow has become a staple plane in 4e

I for one am really looking forward to Lords of Madness.  Outside the obligatory repeats, I trust the set will be great.

Oh yeah, A Manshoon or Fzoul Chembryl mini!
At least Manshoon.
Make him a common and we can all play the Manshoon Clone Wars.
#12

mgriffith

May 20, 2010 21:39:53


This is why tokens rock: they're perfectly accurate (after all, they're pictures right out of the MM), and they're dirt cheap compared to minis. Die-cut cardboard tokens rock for common monsters, but for the weird'n'wacky ones, it still only costs pennies to make your own.

Tokens rock. Go tokens!



Where are tokens available, besides the starter box and Fiery Dragon?


#13

doctorhook

May 21, 2010 0:37:21


This is why tokens rock: they're perfectly accurate (after all, they're pictures right out of the MM), and they're dirt cheap compared to minis. Die-cut cardboard tokens rock for common monsters, but for the weird'n'wacky ones, it still only costs pennies to make your own.

Tokens rock. Go tokens!



Where are tokens available, besides the starter box and Fiery Dragon?



Aside from those two places and the tokens in two forthcoming D&D Essentials products, I'm not sure. That said, it's pretty simple to make your own:

First, decide what monsters you want to make counters of. Decide how many of each, and what size each should be (1 inch for Medium, 2 inches for Large, 3 inches for Huge, etc).

Next find the artwork you want to use for your counters. WotC provides a lot of artwork free online, so that's a great place to find some. It works best if you use a photo editor to crop the image into a perfect square (size doesn't matter at this point).

Then, import the image(s) into this page to make perfect 1-inch (Medium sized) tokens! This file automatically resizes the tiles to print out as perfect 1-inch squares. (URL: www.fierydragon.com/downloads/counters_1... -- if you change the address to _2inch.pdf, _3inch.pdf, or _4inch.pdf, you can print larger tiles, as necessary.)

Finally, print the file out, cut out your new tokens, and play!

#14

tarthane

May 21, 2010 16:46:27
I like the idea of encounter packs or monster group packs. If they sold encounter packs, ie... the encounters in Monster Manual 1-2. I would buy them. Or even sell larger adventure packs for a whole adventure(level). Also maps, I would rather buy maps than tiles personally.
#15

mgriffith

May 21, 2010 16:57:14
I agree Tarthane, 100%.

And thank you drhook for the info and links!

#16

notnimlessur

May 21, 2010 17:11:56

Using the below you can crank-out some nice tokens very quickly...

www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Squeeze-Punch-Med...


You can buy these at almost any craft store.

And, the below provide some mass that makes the tokens easy to grab and move around; plus they won't blow-away if someone sneezes near the table.  These are available at Walmart, Lowes, Home Depot, etc.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001WAK5X4/ref...

The artwork on this site is extensive and chances are almost absolute that you will find exactly what you need.  Just paste into some graphics tool, crop as needed, resize and print.

Again, if you print on glossy paper the finished product looks professional; as good or better than the quality of the dungon tile products IMO.

I literally have hundreds of tokens and at least one for every single monster in MM1 and MM2.  Once you do a few you can create new ones in very little time.

#17

hellfyre

May 24, 2010 13:06:16
I was thinking a bit more on minis this past weekend and came up with an idea ... not sure how feasible it would be, but it could work.  How about releasing unpainted, durable plastic minis in the vein of board game pieces?  Fantasy Flight Games' newest version of Talisman has some really nice minis that would be great to use as an example. 
Some Talisman Minis Examples
Overall, they're well sculpted, have a solid base (which could be a 1" sq for D&D, but that's a stickler from me) and can easily be painted or not by the players/GM.  Heck, in some cases, the translucent plastic could still be used (Gelatinous Cube anyone), and still make a great mini. 
I also believe this could make the minis more cost efficient and affordable due to less need for pre-painted and such.  Not to mention if their board games take off, these could be VERY reusable in said games (especially if the scale's kept).
Really, now that the whole Minis Games schtick is done, it'd be nice to be able to get the minis you need for an affordable price. Whattya say WotC?
#18

sortell

May 24, 2010 14:47:02
I will not buy unpainted minis.
If I did, I'd be on the reaper forums.
The main reason I am buying minis is because its easier to set up than Maptools and saves me lots of time.
I just want my minis to look like what the monster looks like. They way they look in the Monster Manual is fine.
If you dont like it, prime them and paint over them.
I don't have time to paint.  I don't know how to paint.  Lastly and most importantly, I do not enjoy painting and will not do it.
If you want unpainted minis, then buy them.
There are enough to go around.
#19

Marandahir

May 24, 2010 15:03:22
I use empty spools of thread of various sizes on a battle map.  You can buy them in bulk, reuse them for various creatures, and they're cheap as hell.

A wet-erase battle grid map and wet-erase markers finish the job.
#20

hellfyre

May 24, 2010 16:20:26
I will not buy unpainted minis.
If I did, I'd be on the reaper forums.
The main reason I am buying minis is because its easier to set up than Maptools and saves me lots of time.
I just want my minis to look like what the monster looks like. They way they look in the Monster Manual is fine.
If you dont like it, prime them and paint over them.
I don't have time to paint.  I don't know how to paint.  Lastly and most importantly, I do not enjoy painting and will not do it.
If you want unpainted minis, then buy them.
There are enough to go around.



To each their own ... painting doesn't really matter to me.  I'm actually happy with unpainted/gray minis if I don't have the time to paint. 
#21

triga

May 25, 2010 10:34:12
www.pigames.net/store/product_info.php?c...

these guys make preprinted minis, and also for cheaper you can download them and print your self. check em out.

I havn't used them, but got em book marked to try em some day.
#22

22_Over_7

May 26, 2010 14:33:48
I was thinking a bit more on minis this past weekend and came up with an idea ... not sure how feasible it would be, but it could work. How about releasing unpainted, durable plastic minis in the vein of board game pieces? Fantasy Flight Games' newest version of Talisman has some really nice minis that would be great to use as an example.
Some Talisman Minis Examples
Overall, they're well sculpted, have a solid base (which could be a 1" sq for D&D, but that's a stickler from me) and can easily be painted or not by the players/GM. Heck, in some cases, the translucent plastic could still be used (Gelatinous Cube anyone), and still make a great mini.
I also believe this could make the minis more cost efficient and affordable due to less need for pre-painted and such. Not to mention if their board games take off, these could be VERY reusable in said games (especially if the scale's kept).
Really, now that the whole Minis Games schtick is done, it'd be nice to be able to get the minis you need for an affordable price. Whattya say WotC?

Actually, the Castle Ravenloft board game will do exactly that.