- "Rules Compendium: A 4th Edition Supplement"
www.amazon.com/Rules-Compendium-Suppleme...
- "Player's Essentials: Heroes of the Fallen Lands: A 4th Edition D&D Supplement"
www.amazon.com/Players-Essentials-Heroes...
- "Dungeon Master's Kit: An Essential 4th Edition D&D Kit"
www.amazon.com/Dungeon-Masters-Kit-Essen...
- "D&D Gamma World Roleplaying Game: A D&D Genre Setting (4th Edition D&D)"
www.amazon.com/Gamma-World-Roleplaying-G...
I'll bet we'll get more info during D&D Experience this weekend.
I guess PART of his claim came true. Though I can hardly see Gamma World called a setting, rather than a different take on the 4e D&D rules system.
all that RAI crap. Gamma world also sounds fun.
That reminds me, wasn't there this flamer a while back who called us all idiots for thinking Dark Sun was the only setting coming out this year? It was the guy promoting Greyhawk 2010-12, claiming it to be confirmed.
I guess PART of his claim came true. Though I can hardly see Gamma World called a setting, rather than a different take on the 4e D&D rules system.
A while back? Heh, try last week. Or maybe two weeks ago. Anyways, real recent.
I hope Gamma World is an actual setting/system, instead of a board game or minis though.
The DM kit is the on that mostly calls my atention, because it can be awsome, but can be a complete waste of money aswell. I just hope it is a great DM product as the Dungeon Delve and DM Screen
That reminds me, wasn't there this flamer a while back who called us all idiots for thinking Dark Sun was the only setting coming out this year? It was the guy promoting Greyhawk 2010-12, claiming it to be confirmed.
I guess PART of his claim came true. Though I can hardly see Gamma World called a setting, rather than a different take on the 4e D&D rules system.
A while back? Heh, try last week. Or maybe two weeks ago. Anyways, real recent.
I hope Gamma World is an actual setting/system, instead of a board game or minis though.
At the rate this forum posts and moves, and at the rate my mind runs, a week or two IS a while back.
I'm interested in how Gamma World will work. Perhaps this means they'll be doing the same for d20 Modern, Oriental Adventures, Swashbuckling Adventures, Spelljammer, etc later on, rather than releasing them as actual "settings" but as themes?
At the rate this forum posts and moves, and at the rate my mind runs, a week or two IS a while back.
I'm interested in how Gamma World will work. Perhaps this means they'll be doing the same for d20 Modern, Oriental Adventures, Swashbuckling Adventures, Spelljammer, etc later on, rather than releasing them as actual "settings" but as themes?
Well, one of the last developer chats or interviews, maybe it was even the Keith Baker chat on Dark Sun, implied that they were re-looking at Spelljammer as a potential stand alone 4e supplement as I recall.
Imagine using both dark sun and gamma world together.
At the rate this forum posts and moves, and at the rate my mind runs, a week or two IS a while back.
I'm interested in how Gamma World will work. Perhaps this means they'll be doing the same for d20 Modern, Oriental Adventures, Swashbuckling Adventures, Spelljammer, etc later on, rather than releasing them as actual "settings" but as themes?
Well, one of the last developer chats or interviews, maybe it was even the Keith Baker chat on Dark Sun, implied that they were re-looking at Spelljammer as a potential stand alone 4e supplement as I recall.
Double fan-gasm.
BTW, Birthright would make a very good D&D Genre setting, IMO.
Am I just misreading, or does the Players' Essentials listing say it's a 352 page paperback? O.o
Yes, and it's for newbies (refers to the number of pages)
Am I just misreading, or does the Players' Essentials listing say it's a 352 page paperback? O.o
Yes, and it's for newbies (refers to the number of pages)
Not just for newbies.
The classes are featuring new builds that aren't in any of the previously published books.
Guess not ALL the new builds will be Setting books or Power books.
Including PHB Races: Humans for 12/21/10 and Player Essentials: Heroes of Forgotten Kingdoms (11/16/10) featuring new cleric/druid/paladin/ranger/warlock builds as well as new racial traits for dragonborn/drow/half-elves/half-orcs/tieflings.
I do hope that the paperback is a mistake though.
I do hope that the paperback is a mistake though.
It looks like they're trying to keep down costs to draw in new players, though at the expense of the longevity of the books.
Wouldn't be more than a few € as far as I know.
Not just for newbies.
The classes are featuring new builds that aren't in any of the previously published books.
Guess not ALL the new builds will be Setting books or Power books.
I'm not convinced. As far as I can tell, the forum uses the term build to mean variable class features like a Ranger's fighting style and a Sorcerer's spell source. In other words, actual mechanics that effect the entire playability of a class.
On the toher hand, WotC seems to define build as a set of suggested build options to take to achieve a desired goal. If WotC says there's new builds, I'm assuming that to mean a block of text saying "to be this kind of rogue, takes these feats and these powers and this Rogue Tactic." While not entirely unuseful, it's not really necessary or desired by the experienced player, I think.
Unless they do in fact mean new class features, in which case I'll probably get them off DDI anyway.
Not just for newbies.
The classes are featuring new builds that aren't in any of the previously published books.
Guess not ALL the new builds will be Setting books or Power books.
I'm not convinced. As far as I can tell, the forum uses the term build to mean variable class features like a Ranger's fighting style and a Sorcerer's spell source. In other words, actual mechanics that effect the entire playability of a class.
On the toher hand, WotC seems to define build as a set of suggested build options to take to achieve a desired goal. If WotC says there's new builds, I'm assuming that to mean a block of text saying "to be this kind of rogue, takes these feats and these powers and this Rogue Tactic." While not entirely unuseful, it's not really necessary or desired by the experienced player, I think.
Unless they do in fact mean new class features, in which case I'll probably get them off DDI anyway.
When they introduce a new "build," they do mean exactly that: take these feats, these powers, and this class feature. Sometimes, this means that the class feature isn't new: for example, Trickster, Aerialist, and Duellist (Class Acts: Rogue) all use the Artful Dodger choice for Rogue Tactics. However, each time a new one has been introduced, it introduced new powers and feats to go with that new play style, so while it might not be a new class feature, it will certainly be new feats and powers, and that in itself is desireable. That said, a new class feature as the centre of the new build is inherently more desireable than just a new build using an old class feature, but the powers and the feats are the meat and potatoes of the build, while the feature is the vegetables.
Of course, in Newfoundland, the meat is used as flavouring for the vegetables, but you know what I mean…
Each class comes with a set of new powers, class features, paragon paths, epic destinies *snip* this book presents expanded information and racial traits for some of the game’s most popular races
So yes. It looks like we do get new class features and the like in the Player Essentials books.