Player's Option: Heroes of the Feywild
Player's Option: Powers of the Plane Below
Is this the beginings of Mearls' "modularity"?
players options
I'm only typing players options just one and not again before each one)Heroes of the forgotten realms
Heroes of Eberron
Heroes of the planes above
Heroes of underdark( or would shadows deal with this)
maybe we will have:
players options
Heroes of the forgotten realms
Heroes of Eberron
Heroes of the planes above
Heroes of underdark( or would shadows deal with this)
Maybe!
I think that Heroes of Shadow is completely different than Heroes of the Underdark, just my opinion.
It's probably another play to nostalgia - there was a "Player's Option" series back in 2E.
I remember! -- And, yeah, probably.
I would love all of those suggestions! Heroes of the planes above is all but certain given that every plane except the Astral Sea, far realms and the dream plane have been done. The last two would not precede the Astral Sea.
Heroes of the Far Realms would of course be a re-visit of the Psionic classes.
Heroes of the Plane Above would be Divine favoring.
No idea what Heroes of the Dream Plane would be. -- Is there a dream plane?
Is the Heroes of the Plane Below the new name for the Elemental book?
Yes. (Powers of...)
as long as there is support im happy, but for gods sake i NEVER want to see a warpriest domain again as long as i live (they now boast 8, 4 extra in neverwinter)
There's also a 5th in Neverwinter that is mentioned but not found fleshed out in any previous material; "Conquest."
Heroes of dragon kinred
Monster heroes. (4 ed Savage Species
Heroes from tomorrow (steampunk)
Heroes from stars (spelljammer)
Player's Option: Heroes of Might and Magic
Player's Option: Heroes of Bikini Bottom
maybe we will have:
Heroes of Eberron
Oh man, if there was a Heroes of Eberron book, or just another Eberron book, I would be a happy camper.
Heroes from orient
Heroes of dragon kinred
Monster heroes. (4 ed Savage Species
Heroes from tomorrow (steampunk)
Heroes from stars (spelljammer)
The dev's explicitly stated that there are no plans to visit time periods in the current edition (ie. no steampunk).
Heroes of Savagery, or whathaveyou, for monster PCs would be enjoyed by many.
Meh. You guys are making too much of this IMO. It's just a minor change in packaging. "Player's Option" books are just "X Power" books, except based on character concepts or thematic considerations rather than power source. Power source no longer defines a character in the mechanically rigid way it did before Essentials (or before PHB3 gave us hybrids), and is no longer such a useful method of grouping character options. I don't think it has any significance beyond that.
Welcome to the WotC D&D forums, where we overreact, beat horses and generally mull over things that would be better left un-mulled.
This is where they open up design space to repackage and resell PHB 2 and later 3. Now with zombified sacred cows for everyone.
I'm in!
Oh man, if there was a Heroes of Eberron book, or just another Eberron book, I would be a happy camper.
Mike Mearls stated during a seminar that he intends to "get Baker on the phone."
You shouldn´t rule out a "Heroes of steele" about "steampunk" PCs (gunpowder, alchemy, mech-armours, golem mounts, crazy scientists, magic cycles, magic locomotives, flying ironclads..)
The designers pointedly stated that other eras are not going to be covered or addressed in favor of focusing on "D&D".
Also, much of that flavor can be found in Eberron already. -- Not all, but much.
Heroes of the Failed Places
Player's Option: Heroes of Might and Magic
Player's Option: Heroes of Bikini Bottom
might have a heroes of courtroom battles there somewhere
Heroes of the Sea? Sounds good, but I think it needs a theme song.
Indeed, I needs me some nautical adventures.
Charactes from Fogorten Realmas could use firearms. Can´t alchemy be a new power source?
Other eras? Gnomes from Krynn (Dragonlance) use steampunk technology and it´s canon. Fraal, the little grey man from Alternity rpg was a canon AD&D creature, and don´t forget the module "Expedition to the Barrier Peaks" about a crashed spaceship.
Gnomes are inventors of contraptions and explorers of machination in most all settings.
Canon isn't canon until it's revisited in the current setting; if that makes any sense?
Charactes from Fogorten Realmas could use firearms. Can´t alchemy be a new power source?
Alchemy already exists in the current game (not as a power source).
I liked PHB X and X power series more. They were much more crunchy and had better organization.
I like the organization of the Neverwinter Campaign Setting, so, if that's what we can expect moving forward, I'm happy.
Also, the all-crunch book values (ie. sales) were largely invalidated by DDI accounts considering the oft shared wisdom that the book purchase was not-needed come Compendium/Character Builder update. Doing a 50-50 split in crunch and fluff (fluff we actually want) insures book sales, paid developers and open FLGSs. -- It makes sense.
It's probably another play to nostalgia - there was a "Player's Option" series back in 2E.
Old is the new New.
It's probably another play to nostalgia - there was a "Player's Option" series back in 2E.
Old is the new New.
Like the Star Wars prequel trilogy.
Meh. You guys are making too much of this IMO. It's just a minor change in packaging. "Player's Option" books are just "X Power" books, except based on character concepts or thematic considerations rather than power source. Power source no longer defines a character in the mechanically rigid way it did before Essentials (or before PHB3 gave us hybrids), and is no longer such a useful method of grouping character options. I don't think it has any significance beyond that.
I think it will likely be a bit more significant than that, perhaps allowing a greater merge of theme and class, but I agree with most of your sentiment.
On the more humorous side, they could always reinvent the BoEF as Heroes of Eros. They might as well. In addition to killing things and taking their stuff, adventurers also have a tendency to hump NPCs (and, sometimes, try to take their stuff).
Heroes from orient
second
Because what's in it, it's a mystery!
-Updates, feats, and PP support for several of the MM monster races (Mainly Eberron style Hobgoblins, and Kobolds)
-"Evil" Martial builds, Warlock/Hexblade variations, Dirge-singer Bards,
-Monster city fluff
-"Monsters" joining civilization fluff and Backgrounds
-Conversion, Conscript, and Rebel themes
Heroes Among the Monsters
-Updates, feats, and PP support for several of the MM monster races (Mainly Eberron style Hobgoblins, and Kobolds)
-"Evil" Martial builds, Warlock/Hexblade variations, Dirge-singer Bards,
-Monster city fluff
-"Monsters" joining civilization fluff and Backgrounds
-Conversion, Conscript, and Rebel themes
This, please! Although, I'd want non-Eberron support for those races, too.
Heroes Among the Monsters
-Updates, feats, and PP support for several of the MM monster races (Mainly Eberron style Hobgoblins, and Kobolds)
-"Evil" Martial builds, Warlock/Hexblade variations, Dirge-singer Bards,
-Monster city fluff
-"Monsters" joining civilization fluff and Backgrounds
-Conversion, Conscript, and Rebel themes
This, please! Although, I'd want non-Eberron support for those races, too.
Quite, I would like this!
I miss the Player's Handbook series. PHB 4 would ave been awesome.
I'm guessing you really just miss WotC pumping out superfluous classes. No judgement intended, however they could have called Heroes of Shadow PHB4 and a lot of people would have hated it just because it broke the pattern. The opposite is true as well, if they had only renamed the PHB series to Player Options, people would hate that they changed the name.
On a more productive note, Heroes of Questionable Morality is an idea.
Whether any class is superfluous is subjective. I would personally be happier with a larger roster of class choices out there, as I am not wholly satisfied with the current available variety. More new ideas, rather than altered old ideas, would suit me better, specifically because there are specific ideas I would like to explore which cannot be done without going to lengths I do not feel should be neccessary. It is quite likely that hunterian shares my sentiment, though if he simply enjoys a constant stream of new ideas for their own sake, there is no fault in that.
I miss the Player's Handbook series. PHB 4 would ave been awesome.
I'm guessing you really just miss WotC pumping out superfluous classes. No judgement intended, however they could have called Heroes of Shadow PHB4 and a lot of people would have hated it just because it broke the pattern. The opposite is true as well, if they had only renamed the PHB series to Player Options, people would hate that they changed the name.
On a more productive note, Heroes of Questionable Morality is an idea.
I miss having a shadow controller, shadow defender, shadow leader and a shadow striker in the AEDU mold in a PHB. Now, thanks to the Player's Option books, we get a mess of options/powers and classes with little power selection. The feats in HoS were pretty watered down. While for some, it's not for me.
Basically, Essentials highjacked the Shadow power source and released HoS- the worst Player's Book in 4th.
A lot of us wouldn't have had an issue with Essentials/Heroes Option if WotC gave us a core shadow AEDU book, even if there was a repeat of powers. Wizards created this divide in design philosophy, now it's their bed to lie in.
And its' funny one mentioned Monster heroes, Because I have plans to pitch an article to Dragon in october fleshing out Kobolds with essentials-style stats, feats, weapons (Like one that's basically a bear-trap on a chain), and a paragon path based on Tucker's Kobolds.
What do you know about splatterpunk? Cyborgs like from movie "Virus" and borgs from Star Treck could be very horrofic enemies. What about a steampunks heroes like inquisitor/witch hunter?
Heroes of the Far Realm? Hell yeah! "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."
Also the idea above about Heroes of the Sea? Absolutely... A few aquatic races... (no sea elves please) A couple of martial builds for Rouges and Fighters...
Heroes of Shadow - done
Heroes of the Feywild - Soon
Heroes of the Elemental Chaos - In the works
Heroes of the Astral Sea - will piss many off if it ISN'T made
I think "Heroes of the Wilds" would be a decent enough title to cover sea, desert, tundra, etc. in the natural world. (Monstrous PCs could get their due in such as book as well.)
Heroes of the Far Realm... maybe. I think a lot of people would expect new psionic builds in a book like that. New builds would most likely be E-style, and D&D has already stated they're pretty happy with psionics as-is. This may not be the case, but I'm not holding my breath.
I think we may have already gotten a "Heroes of Eberron" book, only they called it the "Eberron Player's Guide." ;)
And I also think that Underdark is pretty well served with available content, between the Underdark book and miscellaneous other material.