PHB3 – the power sources will be Ki (confirmed with announcement of the Monk), Psionic and Shadow
Character classes will follow the 4-2-2 split by source and I’m guessing the source with 4 will be either Ki or Psionic.
If Psionic gets four classes then the campaign setting will be a reinvention of Dark Sun (if it is Dark Sun then Elemental might also be the third power source). If it’s Ki then my guess is some form of Oriental Adventures (Kara Tur?)
The races will depend on the power source split, but some likely candidates are as follows:
Githzerai and Githyanki (they each could cross both Ki and Psionic)
Shadar Kai and Doppleganger (who could cross both Psionic and Shadow)
Half Giants (because each PHB so far has had a racial hybrid :D )
Your thoughts?
As far as the split goes.
They pretty much had two iconic Divine classes that people would have been out and out over the moon if they hadn't released at launch (Cleric and Paladin), and they didn't have the Bard, or Sorcerer ready yet for Arcane. That's why we got the split.
Phb III will probably be a two power source book with two power sources in it.
Shadow and Most likely Psionics. With a 4-4 split.
Phb III will probably be a two power source book with two power sources in it.
Shadow and Most likely Psionics. With a 4-4 split.
Really, I'm thinking 4 Psionic, 2 Ki and 2 Shadow, and especially Ki as the Monk is already up for playtest in May.
Something like:
-Ardent = Psionic Defender
-Empath = Psionic Leader
-Illusionist = Shadow Controller
-Monk = Ki Striker
-Necromancer = Shadow Leader
-Sohei/Soulknife = Ki Defender
-Shaper/Wilder = Psionic Controller
-Telepath/Kineticist = Psionic Striker
Probably off.
As far as the split goes.
They pretty much had two iconic Divine classes that people would have been out and out over the moon if they hadn't released at launch (Cleric and Paladin), and they didn't have the Bard, or Sorcerer ready yet for Arcane. That's why we got the split.
Phb III will probably be a two power source book with two power sources in it.
I'm with you so far.
Shadow and Most likely Psionics.
This is where it goes wonky. You do know that the Monk is confirmed, and thus Ki is a lock?
My (symbolic) money is on 4 Ki / 4 Psi.
The later to support the setting of Dark Sun.
The Psion is definitely a Psychic Power Source class as it's been mentioned in multiple books now, as well as having been mentioned as the class that ate Enchantment magic.
The Psion is definitely a Psychic Power Source class as it's been mentioned in multiple books now,
I doubt they will name a Psionic class Psion, as that would be like naming an Arcane class Arca, or a Martial class Martia.
And the Empath is the Psionic only class (leader) that's been hinted at by the designers so far, if I recall.
I doubt they will name a Psionic class Psion, as that would be like naming an arcane class Arca, or a Martial class Martia.
Martia, Martia, Martia! [/jan brady voice]
Martia, Martia, Martia! [/jan brady voice]
My buddy did that the other day, cracks me up, good man, GhostStepper.
Psi-Shadow-Ki is my guess
so they can get out with 3 more power book in 2010
I also guess that the phb3 will come between january and march 2010
We will probably get a Psionic class for each role, the Monk as the KI striker and Necromancer and Illusionist as Shadow classes.
The 2010 campaign setting will not be Dark Sun. I think it will be either Greyhawk or Dragonlance.
PHB4 will probably have four Elemental classes which hopefully will be designed to fit in as the Elemental Cleric of the Dark Sun setting of 2011.
I would guess 3 power sources, maybe a 3-3-3 scheme?
Psi-Shadow-Ki is my guess
so they can get out with 3 more power book in 2010
I also guess that the phb3 will come between january and march 2010
3-3-3 is highly doubtful because it doesn't give them enough classes for a power book.
Why is everyone obsessed with the Shadow power source? The Necromancer is not suitable for a player class at all. I'd like to Psionics, Ki and Elemental rather than Shadow.
Psi could split the old Psion into Controller and Leader, plus Psychic Warrior eating the Soulknife and getting its stuff to form an awesome Defender.
Shadow has the titular Shadowdancer-type Striker, plus Illusionist and Necro as two very different kinds of Controllers, one manipulative, the other summoning.
Ki gets the Monk, plus an oddball that surprises everyone, something to make people actually appreciate Ki as something other than "The Asian Source".
The races will depend on the power source split, but some likely candidates are as follows:
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Half Giants (because each PHB so far has had a racial hybrid :D )
Goliaths, which will be in PHB2, already fill a "half-giant" race role. (At least, that's their nickname in my campaign ;) )
2010 will be Rokugan (or a new Oriental themed setting developed by WoTC, Kamigawa perhaps?). You heard it from me first.
Rokugan is unlikely at best, as WotC doesn't own L5R. Kara-Tur is more likely, if they do an Asian-themed setting. (And yes, it's part of the same world as the Forgotten Realms, but it's not necessarily the same setting, as it could easily be lifted out and made its own world. Recall that it was presented in the 1e Oriental Adventures as an extension of [i]Greyhawk[i])
The 2010 campaign setting will not be Dark Sun. I think it will be either Greyhawk or Dragonlance.
You do realize Greyhawk is still the default setting right? (Too be honest, I can't really blame you if you didn't notice given the massive flavor changes)
As for Dragonlance...awesome..finally a return to good, old tinker gnomes!
You do realize Greyhawk is still the default setting right? (Too be honest, I can't really blame you if you didn't notice given the massive flavor changes)
As for Dragonlance...awesome..finally a return to good, old tinker gnomes!
The Points of Light setting, which is the default, is not Greyhawk.
The Points of Light setting, which is the default, is not Greyhawk.
Well, neither was Forgotten Realms. There are bits of Greyhawk that would play nicely into the PoL model. Not perfectly, but there is something about visiting Gary's world that does sound appealing. Just...give it a bit. Lets do something out there like Dark Sun or Planescape first.
Ki/Shadow 4/4 - Ravenloft or Ravenloftesque world.
PHB IV
Elemental/Psionic 4/4 - Darksun
My two cents:
Ki/Shadow 4/4 - Ravenloft or Ravenloftesque world.
PHB IV
Elemental/Psionic 4/4 - Darksun
I think Psionics is going to get more play. Ki/Psi really. But Aluman, I'd rather see your Al-Quadim + Elemental source idea come to pass with the PHB4. That would be pure gold.
I think Psionics is going to get more play. Ki/Psi really. But Aluman, I'd rather see your Al-Quadim + Elemental source idea come to pass with the PHB4. That would be pure gold.
Ki/Psi Darksun
Elemental/Shadow Al-Qadim could work. I'm not sure they will want two desert worlds back to back...but then they could turn Darksun into a water world esque world where perservers got out of control in still keep the 'apocalyptic' feel but now with WATER!
Well, neither was Forgotten Realms. There are bits of Greyhawk that would play nicely into the PoL model. Not perfectly, but there is something about visiting Gary's world that does sound appealing. Just...give it a bit. Lets do something out there like Dark Sun or Planescape first.
I'd vastly prefer Dark Sun or Birthright to Greyhawk or Dragonlance. I don't have much hope for Planescape/Ravenloft/Spelljammer outside of Dragon articles though.
I'd vastly prefer Dark Sun or Birthright to Greyhawk or Dragonlance. I don't have much hope for Planescape/Ravenloft/Spelljammer outside of Dragon articles though.
I dunno. Ravenloft just oozes cool and it would make for a great tie in with the Shadow source and more monstrous races. And yes. Dark Sun FTW.
I'm sure I can't be the only one here who really wants something new when it comes to settings. To bring it up again, perhaps use the runner up in the setting contest that got us Eberron. Then again, I know that those particular settings were made with 3.5 in mind, but hopefully it's something that can be converted.
You're not the only one. I would also like to see something completely new. There were two other finalists in the big contest that gave rise to Eberron, and WotC owns the rights to both, so I would not be surprised at all to see them appear now.
As for the PHB3 itself... Psionics and Ki are the front-runners, and I expect them to focus on those two and possibly add a class or two to an older Power Source. So, Ki, Psionics, and Martial would be my guess (and preference).
:I believe the split will be 4 Psionic/2 Ki/2 Shadow
Classes may be:
Psionic
Psion or Wilder or - Psionic Controller
Ardent or - Psionic Leader
Psiknife or Soulknife or - Psionic Striker
Psychic Warrior or - Psionic Defender
Ki
Monk - Ki Striker
Samurai or Sohei or - Ki Defender
OR Incarnate or - Ki Leader
Shadow
Ninja or Shadowdancer or - Shadow Striker
Necromancer - Shadow Leader or Controller
As for Campaign Setting... in my opinion, it's up in the air. Dark Sun, Ravenloft and Greyhawk are possibilities, and I would love to see Dragonlance get support. But we may also see something new.
I'm unsure about races, too, but the Gith will probably be returning, as well as an insectoid race (Dromite), and the Shadar-Kai. Other than that, I'm hoping for something new.