RPG Aids - Would you buy

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#1

jedi_partisan

Apr 24, 2009 8:45:17
I posted this in the Star Wars role playing general descussion area, but I thought this would be something good for all GMs.

In the last Star Wars miniatures set that came out, Wizards included a Bacta tank.
This raised several questions for me and I thought I would ask everyone what they were doing/thought about the idea.

Would you use miniatures of furniture for your Star Wars game?
Do you already use models of furniture (train set, etc) as well as Star Wars Mins?
Would you pay for a static set (not randomized) of furniture mins for your game?
What would you pay?
Do you want me to go away and stop bothering nice people (any opinion welcome)?

I just started using mins in my game. It's still very much focused on the role play aspect, but it's nice to know where people's characters are and what each is doing. I think that adding furniture like stuff would add an element to the game to make things more visible to the player, in a sense putting everyone on the same page, so there are fewer misconceptions and aid in the imagination process.

So here is a list of what would want to see:
I would break this down into three sets (space, medieval, outdoor – either). Each set could also be broken down into three subsets of 10 mins and sell for something like $15 CD. Each set’s furniture would also have the look and feel that is appropriate to that genre.

Space:
Chairs (two)
Stool
Bench
Tables (one round, one rectangle)
Computer panels (4 – circular {ala deathstar}, wall unit {like a book case}, desk, tv {monitor like})
Crates (3 square sizes one cylendar)
Light standards (two)
Power Generator
Shield Generator
Communications Array
Holoprojector
Starship bunk
Chest of Drawers (two sizes)
Vapourator
Backpack/gear (a back pack with some of it’s contents spilled out {blaster, utility belt etc})
Forcefield wall (two)
Repulsor Sled (to carry creates)
Pile of junk (coils, and odds and ends like Wato’s junk yard)
Junker (a ship engine or speeder that is in parts or partly ruined)

Medieval:
Chairs (two types {one plush, one basic wood} – two each)
Stool
Bench
Tables (one round, one rectangular)
Barrels (two sizes)
Crates (two sizes)
Sacks (two types {flower, sacks of gold} – very possible if you’ve seen the mouse droids)
Braziers
Bookcase
Carpet
Chest (two sizes)
Bunk
Bed
Chest of Drawers (two sizes)
Fireplace
Cauldron
Debris Pile
Backpack/gear (backpack with stuff lying beside, coil of rope, sword etc)
Pile of treasure (gold coin, jewels, sword sticking out the top)
Pile of books/tomes
Weapon Rack

Outdoor:
Rocks (3 sizes {+one snow covered})
Trees (three sizes/types {+one snow covered})
Log (+one snow covered)
Ice Blocks/rocks (two sizes)
Bushes (3 sizes {+one snow covered})
Fire (camp fire)
Bedroll (lain out)
Tents (two sizes)
Furs (skinned fir lain out)
Well (typical stone, circular)
Small broken stone wall (two sections)
Cart (wooden, two large wheels)
Small section of long grass (spiky green – as tall as most mins)
Snow mound
Pile of leaves
Small cairn (little hill with entrance in side)
Rocky outcropping
#2

starleena

Apr 24, 2009 8:52:36
I would love to these things available. I make a lot of scenery on my own. You might be surprised what you can make with Paper machete, Styrofoam and a little paint.
#3

CCS

Apr 24, 2009 9:04:30
Stuff like that's always welcome.
So much so that there's already companies out there making some of it - and WoTC knows this.

And for the stuff not made? Well, learning to make your own is part of this hobby.
#4

Dane_McArdy

Apr 24, 2009 9:22:01
I love 3D items in the game. They help inspire players to think outside the box in terms of actions they can take. I built my own 3D dungeon: Click to see all the images.

#5

Shiftkitty

Apr 24, 2009 9:30:49
I would love to these things available. I make a lot of scenery on my own. You might be surprised what you can make with Paper machete, Styrofoam and a little paint.

A paper machete? A big ol' hacking blade made of paper? I think you mean papier mache...:D Sorry, I just imagined you chopping a pile of styrofoam to bits with a paper jungle sword...

Back OT, I've hoped for some time now that WotC would come out with Dungeon Tiles that are nothing but set dressing: chairs, tables, shelves, armoires, bunks, trunks, etc.
#6

Dane_McArdy

Apr 24, 2009 9:43:17
A paper machete? A big ol' hacking blade made of paper? I think you mean papier mache...:D Sorry, I just imagined you chopping a pile of styrofoam to bits with a paper jungle sword...

Back OT, I've hoped for some time now that WotC would come out with Dungeon Tiles that are nothing but set dressing: chairs, tables, shelves, armoires, bunks, trunks, etc.

Maybe I should see if I can sell the stuff I make.
#7

mcthorin

Apr 24, 2009 9:57:16
I don't think I'd buy these accessories unless I was also buying dungeons of some kind already. If I'm buying dungeons, then yeah i might pick up a pack of aceesories to go with them. Accessories would be an impulse/luxury purchase, though.

Right now I'm buying minis and printing dungeons, soI just include scenery on the print out.
#8

Shiftkitty

Apr 24, 2009 11:59:28
Maybe I should see if I can sell the stuff I make.

Post some pics here, also maybe see about opening an eBay store.
#9

Pangur

Apr 24, 2009 12:13:46
I keep the use of minis restricted to a minimum (which is still a fair amount of use in 4E), so why would I invest in furniture? Anyway, while there is something of a market for this kind of thing among hobby miniaturists, I don't see anyone making viable amounts of money off of this purely geared to RPGers.
#10

Stuntman

Apr 24, 2009 12:15:19
I only use miniatures of creatures. For the battle map, I use dry erase markers on a grid so I just draw everything and then erase for the next scene.
#11

Arcane_Guyver

Apr 24, 2009 12:30:04
Would you use miniatures of furniture for your .... game?

For some things, sure. Treasure chests, doorways, barrels, crates...mostly things that can be manipulated by PCs.

Do you already use models of furniture (train set, etc) as well as .... Mins?

Nope. Hadn't really thought of it. The closest are the occasional Dungeon Tiles that represent specific things.

Would you pay for a static set (not randomized) of furniture mins for your game?

Maybe. It would be a very niche product.

What would you pay?

Depends on what all is in there. The upper limit would be $15, and that's only if there's some really nice and usable things in there.

Do you want me to go away and stop bothering nice people (any opinion welcome)?

No need to leave; there are no nice people here, only us gamers. ;)
#12

Dane_McArdy

Apr 24, 2009 12:44:36
Post some pics here, also maybe see about opening an eBay store.

Look a few posts up, mind you, these of pics of some of my first made items, and they have been through a lot of wear and tear, not to mention a player in a game that thought my stuff was her personal stuff, and treated it like crap.
#13

killer_dm_dup

Apr 24, 2009 14:23:29
Yes, I have been using home made item minis for quite some time, but quality items would be much appreciated .
#14

casual-observer

Apr 27, 2009 8:56:24
If it was more affordable than some of the stuff I see on the internet and at my FLGS then, yes, I would buy it.
#15

yabathewhat

Apr 27, 2009 9:15:45
Maybe I should see if I can sell the stuff I make.

You probably could. Ever look at Dwarven Forge? They have something with a very similar look, but it can get severely expensive. A friend of mine spent thousands on the stuff.

On the furniture topic, I got some tables, chairs, and a few other set dressing pieces from Mage Knight by WizKids. The products are discontinued (or so I've been told), but I found a local gaming store still selling their products at severe discounts. A lot of their stuff is still floating around EBay as well.
#16

aliothefool

Apr 28, 2009 5:27:28
Dane_McArdy, your stuff is very nice looking. I'd love to buy stuff like that (like Dwarven Forge) but I just don't have the storage space. I just use Dungeon Tiles. They're much easier to store. It's unfortunate because 3D is so much better, but that's just the reality of space constraints.
#17

yabathewhat

Apr 28, 2009 7:30:17
Dane_McArdy, your stuff is very nice looking. I'd love to buy stuff like that (like Dwarven Forge) but I just don't have the storage space. I just use Dungeon Tiles. They're much easier to store. It's unfortunate because 3D is so much better, but that's just the reality of space constraints.

Flat maps have their advantages too. When players turn a corner, you don't always want to go scrambling for the right set of bends. Plus the walls can get in the way if the pieces don't quite fit in the space provided. (I have at least a few minis where wings & limbs stick out beyond the bases.) Plus sometimes the party can see part of an object, and you may not want to plunk down the whole piece and spoil the surprise.

Conversely, 3D environments offer a lot more to look at, and can help with immersion. It's a lot easier to get players to think in three dimensions when they can see in three dimensions. Of course even that aspect has its limits; adding a ceiling to a functional (physical) gaming map would be awkward at best. (Even the yet-to-be-completed virtual game table made no mention of ceilings.)
#18

Shiftkitty

Apr 28, 2009 12:10:12
Look a few posts up, mind you, these of pics of some of my first made items, and they have been through a lot of wear and tear, not to mention a player in a game that thought my stuff was her personal stuff, and treated it like crap.

Wow! My Awesomeness Sensor must have been malfunctioning, 'cause I totally missed the spoiler block! Now I wish I had a bigger game area...
#19

antesse

Apr 28, 2009 12:36:21
One of my DMs makes stuff out of card stock. He bought a PDF with designs so he has stairs and fireplaces and trees and hills and such. And despite being paper, it holds up to figures and repeated use.
#20

thescalesoffate

Apr 30, 2009 14:39:32
*snip*

EFFING SWEET.
#21

jedi_partisan

Apr 30, 2009 14:58:02
I love 3D items in the game. They help inspire players to think outside the box in terms of actions they can take. I built my own 3D dungeon: Click to see all the images.