WotC_Huscarl wrote:
Well I'm about to go to bed, but someone pointed this little gem as I was doing my final checks for the night.
For anyone who doesn't know off hand, a thaumaturge is apparently a worker of miracles(thank you dictionary.com). So then the question becomes, did we just have a name leak for the Divine Controller or was someone just showing off their vocabulary? I'll leave it for you to decide becuase my bed is calling to me right now. *falls asleep on his feet*
Well, one of the Mystery Classes does start with a 'T' . . .
Well, one of the Mystery Classes does start with a 'T' . . .
so it tracks as a 'maybe...it might be'
black energy arced from the statues to the platform and swirled around a mammoth creature of hideous mien with extrusions growing from its back
I mean, how many people do you know use "mien"?
1) We're lacking a 'T' class from PHB2, and Thaumaturge starts with T. 2) Thaumaturge is a good name for a Divine Controller, and there's been talk of a Divine Controller. 3) It isn't unusual for WotC folk to include playtest classes in their campaigns. 4) And last but not least, Kathra is a Dwarfs name. One would assume that a Divine Controller would have Wisdom as an important stat, and Dwarves get a Wisdom bonus. So Kathra's player may have chosen to play a dwarf because it makes for a good combo with the Divine Controller class.
None of that means anything, of course, if the guy's actually talking about a Wizard, but oh, one can hope.
1) We're lacking a 'T' class from PHB2, and Thaumaturge starts with T. 2) Thaumaturge is a good name for a Divine Controller, and there's been talk of a Divine Controller. 3) It isn't unusual for WotC folk to include playtest classes in their campaigns. 4) And last but not least, Kathra is a Dwarfs name. One would assume that a Divine Controller would have Wisdom as an important stat, and Dwarves get a Wisdom bonus.
None of that means anything, of course, if the guy's actually talking about a Wizard, but oh, one can hope.
earler in the artical he does ssay ArCANE about the character
Kathra wandered off to look at one of the statues, which Biggie figured was a waste of magery but turned out to be pretty smart after all.
This was where Kathra's big brain paid off.
Those (along with Thaumaturge) look like off-hand references to a Wizard to me.
Those (along with Thaumaturge) look like off-hand references to a Wizard to me.
Good guess though.
earler in the artical he does ssay ArCANE about the character
Ah, thanks for pointing that out. Looks like we got all excited for nothing.
It could simply be his wordy way of saying Wizard, yes, but here're four important facts.
1) We're lacking a 'T' class from PHB2, and Thaumaturge starts with T. 2) Thaumaturge is a good name for a Divine Controller, and there's been talk of a Divine Controller. 3) It isn't unusual for WotC folk to include playtest classes in their campaigns. 4) And last but not least, Kathra is a Dwarfs name. One would assume that a Divine Controller would have Wisdom as an important stat, and Dwarves get a Wisdom bonus. So Kathra's player may have chosen to play a dwarf because it makes for a good combo with the Divine Controller class.
None of that means anything, of course, if the guy's actually talking about a Wizard, but oh, one can hope.
We've got as much suggesting the 'T' class might be Theurge too, which also starts with a 'T'. There's nothing confirming it'll be a class, other than some post from the designers saying what a Divine Controller might look like and the suggestion of the name Theurge. Though no hard evidence in that case either.
We've got as much suggesting the 'T' class might be Theurge too, which also starts with a 'T'.
I didn't say we knew the name would be Thaumaturge. Just that it was an appropriate name. It's immaterial, though, as that apparently wasn't a class name.
Thaumat (the greek root) translates as miracle, but applies equally to any miraculous event, be it of Divine, Arcane, Infernal, or other source.
Thaum has been commonly used, in the past in D&D, as a general root for magic, I.E. a being that lived off magic was a Thaumovore.
So, all that being said, Thaumaturge may be the name of one of the new classes in the PHBII, but I doubt it's the Divine Controller we're expecting.
Though I could be wrong.
I realize this is just speculation but it's entirely possible.
I'm really hoping the "T" class in the PHB is a Theurge – Divine Controller.
FWIW, there are duergar "theurges" in H2: Thunderspire Labyrinth. Dunno if it's related or not, but they are controllers.
EDIT: I just checked, and the fluff says they command arcane powers, so perhaps it's just a coincidence.
FWIW, there are duergar "theurges" in H2: Thunderspire Labyrinth. Dunno if it's related or not, but they are controllers.
EDIT: I just checked, and the fluff says they command arcane powers, so perhaps it's just a coincidence.
maybe will be getting two more controllers.
Theurge will be arcane (aka the "fan boy class" summoner)
and a Witch divine...just a guess based on speculation seen around these boards. :P
maybe will be getting two more controllers.
Theurge will be arcane (aka the "fan boy class" summoner)
and a Witch divine...just a guess based on speculation seen around these boards. :P
The arcane classes are confirmed to be Bard and Sorceror. And I've never seen anyone suggest that the theoretical witch class is divine before, everyone always says Primal.
maybe will be getting two more controllers.
Theurge will be arcane (aka the "fan boy class" summoner)
and a Witch divine...just a guess based on speculation seen around these boards. :P
The duergar theurge doesn't do summoning. It just does devilish stuff ... brimstone hail and stuff like that.