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I bet they're still going to be Fey type, which never made any sense to me; because for one thing it's supposed to be a being created for the purpose of protecting nature and avenging it, but don't we already have like three of those? Seriously Dryads, Treants and Wood Woads are already magical fey beings created to protect nature why would the feywild make more and since when did the feywild have a mind of it's own? I could understand if they were Natural creatures born out of the natural world(something that actually has a mind of it's own) responding against the threat of the far-realm, because then they would be apart of nature and have a direct connection to the primal power source.
So instead of getting beings created from the earth and nature itself, we're getting another cat person.
And instead of Primal earthly beings created by the will of nature as a response to alien threats, we're getting Arcane alien beings created in an alternate dimension to protect the natural world as a response to a different alien threat implying that the Feywild somehow has a will of it's own.
I think it would make way more sense and be way more interesting if Wilden were a phenomenon more like Vine Horrors, where a creature is born from a place that evil has touched; except instead of a evil person dying in the wood and coming back as swamp monster, it could be a from when nature is scared by evil such as the far realm that part of nature comes back as a Wilden to avenge itself.
IMO the Wilden was a bad idea since the beginning, and now they seem to have ditched the whole plant thing which was the only thing making them interesting even though it was not very well represented mechanically.
I bet they're still going to be Fey type, which never made any sense to me; because for one thing it's supposed to be a being created for the purpose of protecting nature and avenging it, but don't we already have like three of those? Seriously Dryads, Treants and Wood Woads are already magical fey beings created to protect nature why would the feywild make more and since when did the feywild have a mind of it's own? I could understand if they were Natural creatures born out of the natural world(something that actually has a mind of it's own) responding against the threat of the far-realm, because then they would be apart of nature and have a direct connection to the primal power source.
So instead of getting beings created from the earth and nature itself, we're getting another cat person.
And instead of Primal earthly beings created by the will of nature as a response to alien threats, we're getting Arcane alien beings created in an alternate dimension to protect the natural world as a response to a different alien threat implying that the Feywild somehow has a will of it's own.
I think it would make way more sense and be way more interesting if Wilden were a phenomenon more like Vine Horrors, where a creature is born from a place that evil has touched; except instead of a evil person dying in the wood and coming back as swamp monster, it could be a from when nature is scared by evil such as the far realm that part of nature comes back as a Wilden to avenge itself.
But all the old fluff and mechanics remained in final updated the Compendium entry...
But all the old fluff and mechanics remained in final updated the Compendium entry...
Shhhh! You know logic and sense aren't welcome round these parts!
But all the old fluff and mechanics remained in final updated the Compendium entry...
Which is a shame really, as back when they were first shown there were plenty of people wanting there to be change, beyond a few fixes that occured in their racial powers. In the end, it was a real waste of a playtest. Atleast the barbarian playtest got us a partial fix for the barbarians AC/Ref (which was fine until the recent whirler and hide armour debates), the monk got changed to an all-implement format (which some people like, some hate), and hybrids changed quite a bit in the 2 forms we have, and possibly more so in the 3rd showing on its way.
The Wilden started and ended up in a similar camp as the shifter, as they have nothing interesting as a racial feature beyond their racial power. Hardy form is cool for all of 5 minutes. Yes, they get the daily choice of 1 of 3 encounter powers, but in the end, this is a weak version of the drow who get to choose on the fly. Also, a player might experiment with his 3 options, but in the end, unless there's some feat or PP support to allow faster swapping, the player is most likely to choose the 1 that best fits his class, and never look at the other 2 again.
I actually like their fluff, but mechanicly, i find them even less interesting than the shifter, as their mechanics barely even relate to their concept beyond being Killoren 2.0 .
There's no guarantee that the picture is about one of the book's races - it could represent a class power (primal classes do tend to have transformational abilities) or paragon path; it could also represent a race without a PC writeup (the scene as a whole is illustrating something else, like a power in use).
Actually I see it now. Perhaps a warden's form.
There's no guarantee that the picture is about one of the book's races - it could represent a class power (primal classes do tend to have transformational abilities) or paragon path; it could also represent a race without a PC writeup (the scene as a whole is illustrating something else, like a power in use).
Actually I see it now. Perhaps a warden's form.
Can't be. It's a Seeker. That's Thorn Cloud Shot, one of the Seeker's At-Wills. Besides, Wardens don't use bows.
There's no guarantee that the picture is about one of the book's races - it could represent a class power (primal classes do tend to have transformational abilities) or paragon path; it could also represent a race without a PC writeup (the scene as a whole is illustrating something else, like a power in use).
Actually I see it now. Perhaps a warden's form.
Can't be. It's a Seeker. That's Thorn Cloud Shot, one of the Seeker's At-Wills. Besides, Warden's don't use bows.
You mean they dont use bows for their powers. even if you are a straight up melee class a ranged weapon is weapon handy.
There's no guarantee that the picture is about one of the book's races - it could represent a class power (primal classes do tend to have transformational abilities) or paragon path; it could also represent a race without a PC writeup (the scene as a whole is illustrating something else, like a power in use).
Actually I see it now. Perhaps a warden's form.
Can't be. It's a Seeker. That's Thorn Cloud Shot, one of the Seeker's At-Wills. Besides, Warden's don't use bows.
You mean they dont use bows for their powers. even if you are a straight up melee class a ranged weapon is weapon handy.
Yeah, but they should use heavy thrown weapons, not a bow (which keys off a dump stat).