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The wonderful world of spells

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#1
the_wrath_of_talos
Jan 02, 2009 11:47:16 Does anyone know if and when they'll be incorporating more spell types into powers?

For exmple: there are many spells resembling the old evocation, abjuration, and some conjuration and transmutation spells. So are they going to expand on the transmutation and conjuration spells while bringing in some necromantic, enchantment, etc. spells?

I haven't looked much in to higher lvl powers for the wizard yet but does anyone see anything promising apart from blaster type powers?
#2
ranadiel
Jan 02, 2009 12:15:52 There have been comments from developers mentioning that the wizard's necromancy and illusion powers were minimalized so that they could be used for future classes(potentially with the shadow power source). The Invoker looks like it will have some summoning magic. I really never learned the old schools of magic, so I can't really comment too much on the other ones.

However odds are most of the schools which had actual combat applications will resurface, although likely as new classes. If the school didn't have too much combat ability though, it might still resurface as utility powers. However don't expect too many attack powers that don't deal at least some form of damage.
#3
superdeadsmurf
Jan 02, 2009 15:12:14 there I think will end being a huge number of more widely applicable wizard spells from a number of 'schools' in Arcane Power.
My Feeling is the wizard is the class that is worst at his role in the PHB, so a lot of cooler controllery stuff is coming, likely at the expense of a new 'build'
#4
Dragoncat
Jan 02, 2009 15:20:43 Abjuration is sort of a leader and defender art, the swordmage's aegis abilities cover a bit of it. The bard will probably shine there as well. Conjuration, at least the summoning part, will be making an appearance in the PHB2 through the primal and invoker powers. Shapechanging transmutation will occur as well. The PHB3's shadow source has illusion and necromancy in the bag, and its psionic source will specialize in mental abilities, like enchantment.
#5
farmer42_dup
Jan 02, 2009 15:22:53 Yeah. The wizard will never, ever see their old bag of toys come back in 4E. SDS, you clearly haven't been over to the Controller fourms or CharOp boards, as there are a whole slew of builds that literally shut down the opposition for wizards.
#6
sigil_beguiler
Jan 02, 2009 16:21:33 As others have said, lots of the different schools will be made into separate classes so each can have a focus and stops Wizard from being the be-all-do-all it used to be.

It is best not to think of Wizard like it used to be, and instead what it is now. It has an actual focus to it now.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 the_wrath_of_talos Jan 02, 2009 11:47:16	Does anyone know if and when they'll be incorporating more spell types into powers? For exmple: there are many spells resembling the old evocation, abjuration, and some conjuration and transmutation spells. So are they going to expand on the transmutation and conjuration spells while bringing in some necromantic, enchantment, etc. spells? I haven't looked much in to higher lvl powers for the wizard yet but does anyone see anything promising apart from blaster type powers?
#2 ranadiel Jan 02, 2009 12:15:52	There have been comments from developers mentioning that the wizard's necromancy and illusion powers were minimalized so that they could be used for future classes(potentially with the shadow power source). The Invoker looks like it will have some summoning magic. I really never learned the old schools of magic, so I can't really comment too much on the other ones. However odds are most of the schools which had actual combat applications will resurface, although likely as new classes. If the school didn't have too much combat ability though, it might still resurface as utility powers. However don't expect too many attack powers that don't deal at least some form of damage.
#3 superdeadsmurf Jan 02, 2009 15:12:14	there I think will end being a huge number of more widely applicable wizard spells from a number of 'schools' in Arcane Power. My Feeling is the wizard is the class that is worst at his role in the PHB, so a lot of cooler controllery stuff is coming, likely at the expense of a new 'build'
#4 Dragoncat Jan 02, 2009 15:20:43	Abjuration is sort of a leader and defender art, the swordmage's aegis abilities cover a bit of it. The bard will probably shine there as well. Conjuration, at least the summoning part, will be making an appearance in the PHB2 through the primal and invoker powers. Shapechanging transmutation will occur as well. The PHB3's shadow source has illusion and necromancy in the bag, and its psionic source will specialize in mental abilities, like enchantment.
#5 farmer42_dup Jan 02, 2009 15:22:53	Yeah. The wizard will never, ever see their old bag of toys come back in 4E. SDS, you clearly haven't been over to the Controller fourms or CharOp boards, as there are a whole slew of builds that literally shut down the opposition for wizards.
#6 sigil_beguiler Jan 02, 2009 16:21:33	As others have said, lots of the different schools will be made into separate classes so each can have a focus and stops Wizard from being the be-all-do-all it used to be. It is best not to think of Wizard like it used to be, and instead what it is now. It has an actual focus to it now.