I will try and keep this updated as best as I can. Please post new finds. (***UPDATED 11/12/09***)
Core Supplements:
Draconomicon II: Metallic Dragons (November 17, 2009)
The Plane Below: Secrets of the Elemental Chaos (December 15, 2009)
Player's Handbook Races: Dragonborn (January 19, 2010)
Underdark: A 4th Edition Supplement (January 19, 2010)
Martial Power 2: A 4th Edition Supplement (February 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook 3 (March 16, 2010)
Hammerfast: A Dwarven Outpost Adventure Site (April 20, 2010)
The Plane Above: Secrets of the Astral Sea (April 20, 2010)
Dungeon Magazine Annual (May 18, 2010)
Player's Strategy Guide (May 18, 2010)
Monster Manual 3 (June 15, 2010)
Player's Handbook Races: Tieflings (June 15, 2010)
Demonomicon (July, 2010)
Vor Rukoth: An Ancient Ruins Adventure Site (July 20, 2010)
Dungeon Master's Guide 3 (September, 2010)
Power Cards:
Arcane Power - Bard Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Sorcerer Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Swordmage 1 Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Swordmage 2 Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Warlock Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Wizard Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Divine Power - Avenger Power Cards (February 16, 2010)
Divine Power - Cleric Power Cards (February 16, 2010)
Divine Power - Invoker Power Cards (February 16, 2010)
Divine Power - Paladin Power Cards (February 16, 2010)
Core Modules
The Slaying Stone: Adventure HS1 for 4th Edition D&D (May 18, 2010)
Orcs of Stonefang Pass: Adventure HS2 for 4th Edition D&D (July 20, 2010)
Tomb of Horrors; "Super" Adventure (July 20, 2010)
Forgotten Realms
*** None at this time ***
Eberron
*** None at this time ***
Dark Sun
Dark Sun Campaign Setting (August 17, 2010)
Dark Sun Creature Catalog (August 17, 2010)
Marauders of the Dune Sea: Dark Sun Adventure for 2nd-5th Level Characters (August 17, 2010)
Misc
D&D Heroscape (January 4, 2010)
Three-Dragon Ante: The Emperor's Gambit: A D&D Game (February 16, 2010)
Harrowing Halls; (DU6?) 3-D Dungeon Tiles (March 16, 2010)
Dungeon Tiles: Desert of Athas (June 15, 2010)
Dungeon Tile Master Set (July 20, 2010)
Minitures
Monster Manual: Savage Encounters - Booster Pack (November 17, 2009)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Arcane Heroes 4 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Arcane Heroes 5 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Divine Heroes 4 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Martial Heroes 5 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Primal Heroes 3 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Primal Heroes 4 (Feb 16, 2010)
Monster Manual: Streets of Shadow - Booster Pack (April 20, 2010)
Fixed the bad link (thanks Iskandr)
Updated release dates with days (where applicable) and did a thorough cleanup
How about adding a section for when their promised Insider goodies, like the Virtual Gaming Table or Dungeon builder will be available?
This has been something I considered putting in last year's Schedule, but the reality is that these digital programs/services are very much in limbo with a very amorphous schedule, and there are those who suggest that, due to the economy and the recent layoffs at WotC, these programs may never appear.
So, for the time being, I will stick to printed/produced material.
"Revenge of the Giants" is obviously a special case, because we don't know its "code", if it even will have one. It doesn't need it anyway; it is different from the other module products, it's okay if the entry looks a little different too. Just call it "Revenge of the Giants; Boxed 'Super Adventure'".
This has been something I considered putting in last year's Schedule, but the reality is that these digital programs/services are very much in limbo with a very amorphous schedule, and there are those who suggest that, due to the economy and the recent layoffs at WotC, these programs may never appear.
So, for the time being, I will stick to printed/produced material.
Good call.
Regardless of opinion of D&DI Tools, it would be setting yourself up for a major headache if you were trying to state the release date for products whose best release estimate is usually, "As soon as it's ready."
For the adventure modules, I think it would look more slick (and be more in line with the official titles) if you started each line with the "adventure code", wherever possible. For example, the last entry right now would read "E3: Prince of Undeath". Additionally, the word "Adventure" on most of those entries is a bit redundant.
"Revenge of the Giants" is obviously a special case, because we don't know its "code", if it even will have one. It doesn't need it anyway; it is different from the other module products, it's okay if the entry looks a little different too. Just call it "Revenge of the Giants; Boxed 'Super Adventure'".
Indeed. I used this method originally because it was how it was listed on Amazon (right or wrong) and stuck to it. Besides, the two new modules for Eberron and the Megadventure Giants one have no such moniker. I might take a "wait and see" for how they will progress and label accordingly.
Either way, your suggestion is noted and appreciated.
Indeed. I used this method originally because it was how it was listed on Amazon (right or wrong) and stuck to it. Besides, the two new modules for Eberron and the Megadventure Giants one have no such moniker. I might take a "wait and see" for how they will progress and label accordingly.
Either way, your suggestion is noted and appreciated.
Well, FWIW, the Forgotten Realms adventure had the code "FR1". It's possible that the analogous Eberron adventure (Seeker of the Ashen Crown) will have a similar tag.
Delete this Thread
Sorry, I am trying to leave town for CES and have been rushing to get this done!
Wait, I changed the title, and that changed when you open the thread, but the Sticky title remains the same!
Hmm... that is funky.
Well, FWIW, the Forgotten Realms adventure had the code "FR1". It's possible that the analogous Eberron adventure (Seeker of the Ashen Crown) will have a similar tag.
It is possible, however "E1" is obviously taken, and I had guessed at it being "EB1" but now that it's listed, there is no evidence for this. If it changes for them, I will update the listing.
I will be in Vegas attending CES for work. I will return next Monday or so. Please drop any new findings in here and I will update when I return.
Alright bays and girls, I am back.
As promised I have implemented a minis section, and what did I find, but images on Amazon of the packaging which gives a real insight into the thinking here.
The PH:Heroes series look to be 3 non-random figures per pack for about $11 ($9 actual) and then they will be supported by the MM: DD and MM: DL series of random monster boosters; retail $15 ($10 actual).
Aside from that, everything is cruising along normally. Anyone have any thoughts?
Amazon just posted the DMG 2 Artwork. Lookie:
Power Card Artwork (example):
The Power Card Display Artwork:
and Revenge of the Giants Artwork:
Regarding Revenge of the Giants: it appears to have the number "P2" in the top left corner, perhaps as its "series number" (despite it not being part of a series, AFAIK). Interestingly, it also appears to be for levels 14-17, which is the same level range for "The Demon Queen's Enclave", which is also known as P2.
I think the module designations will start becoming a more standardized notation such as [setting][tier][level range] or some such thing.
That's certainly what this suggests, yes. Seems convenient, but less interesting.
Totally off-topic post, but it just occurred to me: Obama MUST have a houseruled CHA
Careful there, Enigma: Despite how many folks might agree with you, politics is bad thing to bring up, even in a humourous way, and especially in your own stickied thread. Just some friendly advice; I don't want this to get locked.
Careful there, Enigma: Despite how many folks might agree with you, politics is bad thing to bring up, even in a humourous way, and especially in your own stickied thread. Just some friendly advice; I don't want this to get locked.
First off, that's all I was going to say on the matter, and this will be my last post on that clarification or continuation of that thought.
Secondly, it is not political to say someone is charismatic (and I will not argue that point with any trolls)
Advanced Player's Guide
It seems to be available now. From the product description:
"Product Description
Advanced Player's Guide is a must-have supplement for 4th Edition Dungeons & Dragons players and GMs alike! Written by the esteemed Ari Marmell, one of the most experienced 4E designers, the book contains 3 new races, 5 new classes, 15 new paragon paths, 17 new feats, 7 new rituals, and optional rules concerning wounds."
Has anyone heard of this? Does anyone have this?
The author, Ari Marmell, posts on various RPG-related forums as "Mouseferatu".
I will keep a lookout for stuff by him in the future, but I don't think I will be keeping track of many 3rd party items here as it would be a full-time job.
Thanks for the update, Capt!
***Edited*** No reason to take up space twice
As you can see, it is fairly pleasing, but you can click on either the image or the name to go to the link, but it leaves the underline from the link. Obviously the ones without images would need to be treated in a way where they would not be lost. Thoughts?
Bel
Very nice layout!
Bel
Thanks Bel!
Obviously, that first post will get pretty huge, but I think there will always be a maximum far end of material at 1 year off. And, as always, products will be struck from the list as they hit the street.
Ah, screw it. I'm gonna go for it!
I like it! But I think spoiler blocks for the pictures would be a good idea, too. That way your thread doesn't load to slowly for folks with internet issues.
First off, that's all I was going to say on the matter, and this will be my last post on that clarification or continuation of that thought.
Secondly, it is not political to say someone is charismatic (and I will not argue that point with any trolls)
Sorry, Enigma; I didn't mean to imply anything by what I said. All I meant was that I have seen moderator action against threads that just mention a politician or religious figure's name, because of the often strong feelings people have towards them, coupled with the fact that it's almost always off-topic.
No sore feelings, Enigma?
I like it! But I think spoiler blocks for the pictures would be a good idea, too. That way your thread doesn't load to slowly for folks with internet issues.
I tried it with that, but it was a pain, didn't give the info right away (which, let's face it, is why people come to this thread) and wasn't graphically pleasing.
This isn't my favorite either, but works the best in the confines of the forum.
I find I do get much more excited at the prospect and volume of what is in the pipeline when I look at it this way! (It must be my inner kid who is at Toys-R-Us but only has $5 from his allowance to spend)
Sorry, Enigma; I didn't mean to imply anything by what I said. All I meant was that I have seen moderator action against threads that just mention a politician or religious figure's name, because of the often strong feelings people have towards them, coupled with the fact that it's almost always off-topic.
No sore feelings, Enigma?
No worries.
1) The E3 description lines up with Against the Giants. I think we can all see the link is right above it, but it looks like you went through great pains to be consistent, so I wanted to let you know that seemed out of place.
2) E2 Actually has a pic on the WotC Web site here, and in case you want it RIGHT NOW, it is below.
Keep up the great work!
All has been fixed. . .
Didn't catch the month (prolly December)
from D&D exp, next MoTP style book, Planes Below, focus on elemental chaos.
Didn't catch the month (prolly December)
I will keep a lookout for that one. If anyone can find a link, lemmie know!
Thanks Serphet!
Good question! I wasn't there, but maybe someone who was can chime in on this . . .
If they had given some clue, then I'm sure the information would have already spread like wild fire. Although there practically zero mention anywhere about the delve characters being PHBII classes so who knows. I miss Gamer Radio Zero.
If they had given some clue, then I'm sure the information would have already spread like wild fire. Although there practically zero mention anywhere about the delve characters being PHBII classes so who knows. I miss Gamer Radio Zero.
if they announced something it would be every where by now...but hints mightnot have made the jump to the web yet...
I miss Gamer Radio Zero.
Why? Has anything happened to Gamer Radio Zero?
if they announced something it would be every where by now...but hints mightnot have made the jump to the web yet...
I wouldn't have expected them to announce anything by now, as they mentioned they would announce each year's campaign setting at the previous year's GenCon Indy. So, we'll hear about it in six and a half months' time.
Why? Has anything happened to Gamer Radio Zero?
Yeah, WotC fired him months ago, or so I heard. I understand that it had less to do with the videos and more to do with the (frankly, terrible) management of the forums, which was also his responsibility. Incidentally, his extremely capable replacement, Solice, (who didn't make any videos AFAIK), was also laid-off a couple months later.
I wouldn't have expected them to announce anything by now, as they mentioned they would announce each year's campaign setting at the previous year's GenCon Indy. So, we'll hear about it in six and a half months' time.
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I knew they wouldn't announce it but maybe something sliped by in a Q&A...or durring a seminar...not the answer but a hint...something new somethingold..something borrowed something blue...wait I think I went the wrong way with that ;)
It is a downer that no FR adventures are announced
It seems that for the time being, they are releasing one adventure per setting. Perhaps this will change - but I have heard rumblings that setting-specific support books are not as high "grossers" than untyped books that can be woven into settings.
That being said, I think they will start to get diminishing returns after PHB4 in terms of useful classes (it will be hard enough to not have Elemental, Shadow, Ki, and Psionic not step on the toes of Divine, Arcane, Martial and Primal classes). So they may revisit the settings for future splatbooks and adventures.
Although who knows - Maybe 2011 will have FR and Eberron adventures instead of core.
It seems that for the time being, they are releasing one adventure per setting. Perhaps this will change - but I have heard rumblings that setting-specific support books are not as high "grossers" than untyped books that can be woven into settings.
That being said, I think they will start to get diminishing returns after PHB4 in terms of useful classes (it will be hard enough to not have Elemental, Shadow, Ki, and Psionic not step on the toes of Divine, Arcane, Martial and Primal classes). So they may revisit the settings for future splatbooks and adventures.
Although who knows - Maybe 2011 will have FR and Eberron adventures instead of core.
Personally, I'd be happier if they released more "core" adventures, and then included extensive details (either directly in the product or on DDI) about how to incorporate that adventure into specific settings. This is similar to what they've done with adventures during 3.5E, but I want even more detail than those tie-in blurbs offered. Additionally, I'd like adventure paths to retain their "path-iness" when reflavoured for a particular setting, too.
Personally, I'd be happier if they released more "core" adventures, and then included extensive details (either directly in the product or on DDI) about how to incorporate that adventure into specific settings. This is similar to what they've done with adventures during 3.5E, but I want even more detail than those tie-in blurbs offered. Additionally, I'd like adventure paths to retain their "path-iness" when reflavoured for a particular setting, too.
I concur . . .
Personally, I'd be happier if they released more "core" adventures, and then included extensive details (either directly in the product or on DDI) about how to incorporate that adventure into specific settings.
They have done this already, to a certain extent, through Dragon/Dungeon.
And it's been said (though can't recall where exactly - in a podcast perhaps?) that in the future there will be more setting specific stuff in the mags. IIRC there's going to be either an FR or Eberron adventure in each issue of Dungeon.
Ofc I assume this will only hold true until the next setting is released, then they'll have to start sharing time...
So once they get to PHB 4 and (theoretically) have the power sources complete (Arcane, Divine, Elemental, Ki, Martial, Primal, Psionic and Shadow), where do you think the focus will turn to next?
2nd and 3rd generation Power books?
Additional Power sources? What else is there?
Additional PhB books filling in gaps (eg Martial Controller)
New roles?
Race books?
In depth Settings books?
What do you think?
So here is a question:
So once they get to PHB 4 and (theoretically) have the power sources complete (Arcane, Divine, Elemental, Ki, Martial, Primal, Psionic and Shadow), where do you think the focus will turn to next?
X Power 2, 3, 4...
PHBs with increasingly more contrived classes and races.
A 4.5 edition that fixes the "2 main stat" classes (most notably the Paladin).
All leading up to... 5th edition in 2012.
X Power 2, 3, 4...
PHBs with increasingly more contrived classes and races.
A 4.5 edition that fixes the "2 main stat" classes (most notably the Paladin).
All leading up to... 5th edition in 2012.
Uh huh...
Stumbled across this in Amazon. This doesn't appear to be an official WotC product:
Advanced Player's Guide
It seems to be available now. From the product description:
"Product Description
Advanced Player's Guide is a must-have supplement for 4th Edition Dungeons & Dragons players and GMs alike! Written by the esteemed Ari Marmell, one of the most experienced 4E designers, the book contains 3 new races, 5 new classes, 15 new paragon paths, 17 new feats, 7 new rituals, and optional rules concerning wounds."
Has anyone heard of this? Does anyone have this?
I love this book. Crafting is introduced very organically to the system. Lingering would effects are as well. It won't be easy to top the monk variant (martial artist). This supplement is quality content.
I love this book. Crafting is introduced very organically to the system. Lingering would effects are as well. It won't be easy to top the monk variant (martial artist). This supplement is quality content.
Written by a good author, who is responsible for lots of official products. Unfortunately, this isn't an official product, so it's beyond the scope of this thread. If we started expecting Enigma to list every third party product here, he'll have a stroke.
Written by a good author, who is responsible for lots of official products. Unfortunately, this isn't an official product, so it's beyond the scope of this thread. If we started expecting Enigma to list every third party product here, he'll have a stroke.
I didn't suggest that he should, but he asked about it. I answered.
The Plane Below
Bel
The Plane Below is up on the Wizard's products listing, due out in Dec. focusing on the Elemental Chaos and locations contained therein.
The Plane Below
Bel
I wonder if this includes the Abyss? There's certainly enough in the Abyss to merit its own book, although whether or not that book would suck with repetitiveness would remain to be seen. (Perhaps if a book about the Abyss doubled as the demon-equivalent of "Open Grave" or "Draconomicon"...)
Added Plane Below. Thanks Bel.
I didn't suggest that he should, but he asked about it. I answered.
I did ask. Thanks for your opinion. I may check it out.
WotC definitely has some of my money coming to it over the next few months.
I wonder if this includes the Abyss? There's certainly enough in the Abyss to merit its own book, although whether or not that book would suck with repetitiveness would remain to be seen. (Perhaps if a book about the Abyss doubled as the demon-equivalent of "Open Grave" or "Draconomicon"...)
Someone at the D&D Experience said it would deal with the Elemental Chaos, but we will have to see
EDIT: Sorry I missed your previous post saying the same thing. I dunno about the abyss .. .
I wonder if this includes the Abyss? There's certainly enough in the Abyss to merit its own book, although whether or not that book would suck with repetitiveness would remain to be seen
I think if it delved into the society and type of people within each layer of the Nine Hells (and strove to give each layer its own feel) there wouldn't be any repetitiveness.
I think if it delved into the society and type of people within each layer of the Nine Hells (and strove to give each layer its own feel) there wouldn't be any repetitiveness.
The Nine Hells are an Astral Dominion filled with devils, John. The Abyss is a region of the Elemental Chaos filled with demons. :P
Plane Below sounds pretty cool. I hope they expand upon from the Manual of the Planes. Overall- I am very happy with the future releases.
I am happy as well. WotC should be too . . .I can see quite a bit of my bucks going into at least one release a month from March through the end of the year.
Especially in a recession, dollar-for-dollar D&D is pretty cost effective for entertainment per buck
E1 Now has a picture up on the WotC Web site here:
Wrong URL, it's actually here. ;)
Thanks Joy and Bolongo!
Added the image for E1 Death's Reach.
Updated accurate street dates through Oct '09
Wrong URL, it's actually here. ;)
Whoops! I was looking at that one as well. Thanks for the catch!
New artwork from the Eberron Adventure; Secrets of the Ashen Crown. We now know its technically an "H2" for 2-4th level (although I though H2 would be 4-6, but whatever):
Ok what I don't understand is Why did they Choose H2; they already have an adventure H2? Why didn't hey go with EB1 as mentioned above? Makes no sense. In any case anyone catch the latest on yesderdays update from WOTC on the Play-test for the Monk from the PHB3??? Any word on when THAT is to be released? Is this the first time they have made a PHB3???
Ok what I don't understand is Why did they Choose H2; they already have an adventure H2? Why didn't hey go with EB1 as mentioned above? Makes no sense. In any case anyone catch the latest on yesderdays update from WOTC on the Play-test for the Monk from the PHB3??? Any word on when THAT is to be released? Is this the first time they have made a PHB3???
My personal hypothesis is that the Eberron Campaign Setting will have a mini-adventure to get you from 1-2 and Ashen Crown will continue it.
As far as PHB3, this is the first "official" mention of it. The consensus is that PHB's will be released around March each year - at least through PHB4, but that is based mostly on wild guesses, and that PHB1 and 2 are being released about that time for 2008/2009.
What we do know with that piece of info is that Ki characters will be included in PHB3. My guess is that, since the Monk is really the last 3.5 Core Class to be released, that Ki will be the dominant power source in the book with 4 Ki characters, each with an asian flare. My personal guess is Monk (striker/controller), Ninja (Striker), Samurai (Defender) and Shogun (Leader) or something to that effect. Then the minor 2 power sources will be derived from the remaining 3 power sources (elemental, psionic, and shadow) with 2 each. I have a feeling that it will be 2 elemental and 2 shadow. My reasoning for this is that the hook for PHB3 will be the Monk - the last of the 3.X characters and that the hook for PHB4 will be psionics, the other thing everyone is clamoring for.
added artwork for Arcane towers
Thanks socksieboy01!
Ok what I don't understand is Why did they Choose H2; they already have an adventure H2? Why didn't hey go with EB1 as mentioned above? Makes no sense. In any case anyone catch the latest on yesderdays update from WOTC on the Play-test for the Monk from the PHB3??? Any word on when THAT is to be released? Is this the first time they have made a PHB3???
I'm not at all sure the "H2" will be there when it's published, it's probably a placeholder graphic. The FR adventure has no such code at all.
(Oh and Enigma: It's Seekers, not Secrets. ;))
As for the Monk... playtest? Where did you get that? All we have confirmation of is that the Monk will be in the PH 3. I haven't seen any word about a playtest yet.
I don't know why you're so surprised about the PH3 either, it's well known there's going to be one each year. So the answer to when it's released is: sometime in 2010. I would guess pretty early in the year, but we have no way of knowing yet.
I'm not at all sure the "H2" will be there when it's published, it's probably a placeholder graphic. The FR adventure has no such code at all.
(Oh and Enigma: It's Seekers, not Secrets. ;))
As for the Monk... playtest? Where did you get that? All we have confirmation of is that the Monk will be in the PH 3. I haven't seen any word about a playtest yet.
I don't know why you're so surprised about the PH3 either, it's well known there's going to be one each year. So the answer to when it's released is: sometime in 2010. I would guess pretty early in the year, but we have no way of knowing yet.
Sorry, I was responding from my iPhone and didn't go back to look.
SEEKERS it is
Monks will be previewed in May.
Monk and PHB3 source: HERE
My guess is that, since the Monk is really the last 3.5 Core Class to be released, that Ki will be the dominant power source in the book with 4 Ki characters /.../ Then the minor 2 power sources will be derived from the remaining 3 power sources (elemental, psionic, and shadow) with 2 each.
And I maintain that this is an unreasonable expectation.
A 4/2/2 split will mean only 1 Power book in 2010 and 3 in 2011.
PH1 had to be split between 3 sources to get all the most iconic classes in, and PH2 had to be the same way to clean up the mess, but there's no reason for the designers to keep on making things difficult for themselves. ;)
But I know it's useless to argue this point on this forum. Too many fanbois have their hearts set on all their favorite classes being in PH3.
Monks will be previewed in May.
Ah, right, the wording threw me. I'm not optimistic enough to automatically assume that a "preview" will be a playable playtest. It could just be some flavor text and philosophizing about Ki... :P
This is what was said:
News Flash!
Hey, I wrote this whole column and then realized it didn’t contain any real Insider information. Typical, right? Well, I’m going to end my run on this column with a couple of sneak peeks of upcoming Dragon Magazine content.
In March, look for the assassin! In the tradition of the gladiator article we'll feature feats, backgrounds, and paragon paths devoted to the fine art of the assassin.
In April, we provide a bag of holding full of new familiars for arcane characters.
In May, come aboard to help playtest a class from Player’s Handbook 3… the monk!
More details on these and other surprises soon.
Whew! Now I feel better…
Bill Slavicsek
R&D Director
The full article is here.
Well one every year, huh? Well that's kinda cool I guess. i just wish they would do a Dragonlance setting for 4e! I would so love that!
In May, come aboard to help playtest a class from Player’s Handbook 3… the monk!
Aaand there it says "playtest". . . Guess I fumbled part of my reading comprehension for today.
And I maintain that this is an unreasonable expectation.
A 4/2/2 split will mean only 1 Power book in 2010 and 3 in 2011.
PH1 had to be split between 3 sources to get all the most iconic classes in, and PH2 had to be the same way to clean up the mess, but there's no reason for the designers to keep on making things difficult for themselves. ;)
But I know it's useless to argue this point on this forum. Too many fanbois have their hearts set on all their favorite classes being in PH3.
Yes indeed. Which is why I put the caveat "my opinion" before everything. There are lots of "Whats next" "what does Ki mean to you?" "Shadow Power Characters and the Women Who Love Them" etc threads out there.
As far as what is in each book, I am not sure exactly what they will do in terms of how many power sources in each book. It seems like it would be easier to do 2 sources per book, but the spreading out of 2 sources among 2 books seems like nice dove-tailing and incentivizes people to purchase the next book to complete the "set." Also PHB1&2 have that "Arcane, Divine and Martial Heroes" tagline. There is no evidence that they would change from 3 power sources that have already been established in the current format.
Aaand there it says "playtest". . . Guess I fumbled part of my reading comprehension for today.
It's ok, it's understandable; I forgive you this time, but next time I won't be so nice LOL j/k. ;)
A 4/2/2 split will mean only 1 Power book in 2010 and 3 in 2011.:
Also, we don't know that this is the case either. Remember, there is always Martial Power 2, Arcane Power 2, Divine Power 2 and Primal Power 2 to fill the shelves.
I have faith in WotC's ability to deliver splat books. ;)
Also, we don't know that this is the case either. Remember, there is always Martial Power 2, Arcane Power 2, Divine Power 2 and Primal Power 2 to fill the shelves.
I have faith in WotC's ability to deliver splat books. ;)
True dat!
I have faith in WotC's ability to deliver splat books. ;)
I think that is something EVERYONE agrees with...:D
Prediction for 5th edition: gencon 2017 (50th gen con...5e makes a good sales pitch)
I actually LOVE 4e so much I could honestly wait 8 yrs for 5.0 ed! I'm sure they will do it, it's just that the way i see it that this should just simply be the last version of DnD and just come up with small updates and new ways to play, new adventures, new realms and new classes. Also too should incorporate 4e Dragonlance, Dark Sun, and expand on Spell Jemming more. 4e, in my opinion, was so wonderfully done!
Now, don't get me it's not w/o its lil' quirks. And long time gamers can find more nit-picky things wrong with it than I ever could, though I do date back to 1e; it's just that I love the overall feel and play to it.
I think that is something EVERYONE agrees with...:D
Yes and all is right in the world.
I've noticed that both this thread and the wizards product page for Dungeon Delves still have it listed as a February release, thought many places still have it up for pre-order only and Amazon.com has it listed as a March 3rd release. Is the March release correct as of now?
Hmmm. . .
Good catch. Borders and Amazon do have it listed as March 3 now. Barnes & Noble.com has it listed as "available"
Sounds like a shipping/printing glitch.
I will update the release date to reflect that.
Does anyone have a copy yet?
Does anyone have a copy yet?
From what I've read some copies were for sale at the cons over the past month. However I don't know if anyone has gotten it from any book stores or similair entities.
From what I've read some copies were for sale at the cons over the past month. However I don't know if anyone has gotten it from any book stores or similair entities.
Well if Amazon says it quacks like a duck
and WotC says it quacks like a duck
than who am I to say its not a duck.
March release it is . . .
People are getting it early but I think it's another case of buy.com/amazon releaseing things as soon as they get them in their warehouse.
Well, Amazon is holding the date until March, but this does smatter of the core release last year for some reason . . .
Monster Manual Miniatures - Savage Encounters, due Nov. 17
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Manual-Encounters-Miniatures-Expansion/dp/0786953047/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235592923&sr=1-9
Also, "Dungeon Lords" in the minis line has been renamed to "Legendary Evils" according to the linked Amazon page.
More decloakings in the November releases - All the power cards from Arcane Power. Two sets for Swordmage, apparently.
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Bard-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953500/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Sorcerer-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953519/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Swordmage-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953527/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Swordmage-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953535/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Warlock-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953543/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-5
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Wizard-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953551/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-6
Another Monster Manual minis release just decloaked.
Monster Manual Miniatures - Savage Encounters, due Nov. 17
http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Manual-Encounters-Miniatures-Expansion/dp/0786953047/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235592923&sr=1-9
Also, "Dungeon Lords" in the minis line has been renamed to "Legendary Evils" according to the linked Amazon page.
More decloakings in the November releases - All the power cards from Arcane Power. Two sets for Swordmage, apparently.
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Bard-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953500/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Sorcerer-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953519/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Swordmage-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953527/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Swordmage-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953535/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Warlock-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953543/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-5
http://www.amazon.com/Arcane-Power-Wizard-Cards-Accessory/dp/0786953551/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235593484&sr=1-6
Wow! Excellent work Sutro. Everything is updated.
I think this gives us an some good insights into what is happening in Arcane Power! I mean, enough Swordmage love to warrant 2 decks of cards?!?!? That must be at least one full new build and enough bonus goodies for a deck - or 2 full new builds "Aegis of . . ."
I think this gives us an some good insights into what is happening in Arcane Power! I mean, enough Swordmage love to warrant 2 decks of cards?!?!? That must be at least one full new build and enough bonus goodies for a deck - or 2 full new builds "Aegis of . . ."
IIRC, there's no Swordmage cards currently on the way in any other releases. Because of this, I can only assume that one of those two Swordmage decks will cover all the material from FRPG, while the other will be from Arcane Power. Remember, by the time the Arcane Power cards get here, all the other Martial and Arcane classes will already have two decks available as well. (Primal and Divine classes will each only have one deck at that point, though.)
Definitely, I think Swordmages will get a new build in Arcane Power, but I don't necessarily think this means they'll be getting any more than the other classes.
IIRC, there's no Swordmage cards currently on the way in any other releases. Because of this, I can only assume that one of those two Swordmage decks will cover all the material from FRPG, while the other will be from Arcane Power. Remember, by the time the Arcane Power cards get here, all the other Martial and Arcane classes will already have two decks available as well. (Primal and Divine classes will each only have one deck at that point, though.)
Definitely, I think Swordmages will get a new build in Arcane Power, but I don't necessarily think this means they'll be getting any more than the other classes.
Oh, damn - you are right. I got excited there for a minute
Oh, damn - you are right. I got excited there for a minute
lol No worries, Enigma!
lol No worries, Enigma!
I sometimes disgust myself with how excited I get over this game when I'm in my mid-thirties. LOL
But I love it so . . .my . . . precious!
I sometimes disgust myself with how excited I get over this game when I'm in my mid-thirties. LOL
But I love it so . . .my . . . precious!
Well, I'm a pretty enthusiastic guy, too, so I feel better about it knowing that I'm not alone. After all, as I understand it, enthusiasm is practically a virtue! (It helps with attracting women, too.
)Unfortunately, she is not the playing type, but sometimes I think its for the best.
I am covered in that department, I am passed that to the "my fiance is ok with we playing D&D one night a week with friends. Cool."
Unfortunately, she is not the playing type, but sometimes I think its for the best.
It would disappoint me if I were in a situation like that, but I can see what you mean about it perhaps being for the best. "Girl who likes to game," is on my wishlist of partner-traits, but it's not a priority. Besides, I hear that some time apart can be pretty healthy, anyway.
BTW Enigma: Good luck to you and your fiance with your presumably-forthcoming marriage!
What's with the Annuals for Dungeon and Dragon? Neither book has a confirmed cover on Amazon, and I've heard zip about either of them from official or non-official sources.
They're in the product catalog, or at least they were last I checked. But you're right, we don't know much about them, other than that they're supposed to present a printed version of the best articles from Dragon and Dungeon Magazines.
What's with the Annuals for Dungeon and Dragon? Neither book has a confirmed cover on Amazon, and I've heard zip about either of them from official or non-official sources.
Unless I'm missing a source, the Dragon Annual was just announced about a month ago(D&DXP if I recall correctly). It isn't suprising that little info about it has been released(incidently I just read the Amazon listing and I'm losing another 20 dollars come September). There is a podcast which recorded the initial announcement, along with announcements for a couple of other products, on Critical Hits.
......The Dungeon Annual however seems to be nonexistent. I don't believe it has appeared in a retailer catalogue, and it was not mentioned in the D&DXP 2009 product seminar thing as I recall. All products through January were listed there, and the Dungeon Annual did not make it. I'm not sure why Amazon has it listed, but they don't even have a description for it. I would not count on seeing this, at least not this year.
It would disappoint me if I were in a situation like that, but I can see what you mean about it perhaps being for the best. "Girl who likes to game," is on my wishlist of partner-traits, but it's not a priority. Besides, I hear that some time apart can be pretty healthy, anyway.
BTW Enigma: Good luck to you and your fiance with your presumably-forthcoming marriage!
Yeah, I think there are bonuses to both. I like to have the time apart, I think it is healthy for both of us to have some of our lives apart - it does make the heart grow fonder.
Thanks for the well-wishes. We aren't getting married till July 2010, so that my fiance has an entire year after getting her masters to plan, although we already have a location - on the beach - no tuxes allowed!
Unless I'm missing a source, the Dragon Annual was just announced about a month ago(D&DXP if I recall correctly). It isn't suprising that little info about it has been released(incidently I just read the Amazon listing and I'm losing another 20 dollars come September). There is a podcast which recorded the initial announcement, along with announcements for a couple of other products, on Critical Hits.
......The Dungeon Annual however seems to be nonexistent. I don't believe it has appeared in a retailer catalogue, and it was not mentioned in the D&DXP 2009 product seminar thing as I recall. All products through January were listed there, and the Dungeon Annual did not make it. I'm not sure why Amazon has it listed, but they don't even have a description for it. I would not count on seeing this, at least not this year.
Dungeon and Dragon Annual has been on this thread alone since last year, and I have links to the Amazon pages above. That does not guarantee that they will be produced, but it does mean it has been in the works for a while.
Dungeon and Dragon Annual has been on this thread alone since last year, and I have links to the Amazon pages above. That does not guarantee that they will be produced, but it does mean it has been in the works for a while.
Eh when did you get any info about the Dragon Annual? The first I heard, as far as official word goes, was at DDXP. Was the Amazon page up before then?
And yes, I know that Amazon has had Dungeon Annual listed for a while.....however Wizards has never yet to list it in any source. I really doubt that it is going to be an actual product, at least come May.
Eh when did you get any info about the Dragon Annual? The first I heard, as far as official word goes, was at DDXP. Was the Amazon page up before then?
And yes, I know that Amazon has had Dungeon Annual listed for a while.....however Wizards has never yet to list it in any source. I really doubt that it is going to be an actual product, at least come May.
Yeah, Dungeon annual listed first, then the WotC listed the Dragon Annual and not the Dungeon Annual. I believe it was up prior to DDXP (at least I think so), but regardless, I think they are trying to gauge the market for hard copies of the online content. If there is a market they will probably publish both from here on out. If there isn't a cost-effective response by the community, they will leave them as online only.
Yeah, Dungeon annual listed first, then the WotC listed the Dragon Annual and not the Dungeon Annual. I believe it was up prior to DDXP (at least I think so)...
This is what I remember. In fact, it confused the hell outta me, because first there was only Dungeon, then there was only Dragon, and then I don't know WTF. Anyway, both have been on and off the radar for months now.
yes, books were DoA, so they have to get a new order fo them.
Apparently, the bulk of the cardboard used for the covers was damaged. I preordered from B&N, and it got delayed by a week from the Feb release date. However, it did arrive yesterday via UPS. I would assume that the bulk of the pre-orders out there will experience some sort of delay.
Added Primal Power photo to listing, also added WotC photo for Monster Manual: Dangerous Delves Mini.
Updated all bordered Amazon photos possible to cleaner, boarderless WotC photos for a better look.
ALSO- Upon reading the new listing for the MM:DD minis it looks like they will be 1 visible non-random mini and 4 random minis per booster pack. I don't know weather this will mean you never get certain packs or if there will be more for everyone. 5 per booster is a bit of a pill to swollow compared to 8.
The editorial calendar mentions a playtest for Martial Power 2. That almost certainly puts it as a 2010 release.
Yes, I saw that. Until we have a more concrete idea, as in which month, or at least an official listing on a website, I will wait to post it.
Thanks for the heads up though!
Just FYI, in the product listing, the link to Monster Manual 2 is broken.
That's odd.
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Thanks for the head's up
Apparently, Brian R. James is working on a "forthcoming supplement" called Underdark.
-Sutro
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Removed Dungeon Delve
An intriguing disclosure today in Ecology of the Sharn -
Apparently, Brian R. James is working on a "forthcoming supplement" called Underdark.
-Sutro
Didn't they mention the Underdark book at a con or something like that off handedly? I could have sworn I've heard about it before.
You did hear about it already, although not with any kind of confirmation. What happened was, at one of the Cons earlier this year (probably DDXP), at the product seminar where they discussed Plane Below, someone asked about future "environment" supplements, especially about the Underdark. One of the devs replied with an emphatic, "Yes!", and made some comment which left seminar-goers with the distinct impression that such a supplement was already being worked upon. The presumed title of such a speculated project was "Underdark".
Does that story sound familiar, R? I'm pretty certain that I've got it correct, but if you recall it differently, feel free to say something. You and I probably read it in the same place, anyway.
You did hear about it already, although not with any kind of confirmation. What happened was, at one of the Cons earlier this year (probably DDXP), at the product seminar where they discussed Plane Below, someone asked about future "environment" supplements, especially about the Underdark. One of the devs replied with an emphatic, "Yes!", and made some comment which left seminar-goers with the distinct impression that such a supplement was already being worked upon. The presumed title of such a speculated project was "Underdark".
Does that story sound familiar, R? I'm pretty certain that I've got it correct, but if you recall it differently, feel free to say something. You and I probably read it in the same place, anyway.
That sounds about right. And it would have had to be D&DXP because that was the one with the podcast of the product announcement seminar.
the 23rd of march on dragon there is the 1st playtest of Martial Power 2
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/calendar
I suppose it will come out early in 2010
martial power 2
the 23rd of march on dragon there is the 1st playtest of Martial Power 2
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/calendar
I suppose it will come out early in 2010
Thanks for the update. I did see this, and I believe it is registered on the "compilation" thread. This is the thread for "set in stone" releases. I know that MPII will be out next year, as well as PHBIII, MMIII, DMGIII - but since we have no firm dates yet, it is not listed here. But it will be . . .oh, yes . . . it will be.
I thought you might want to make a note until the correct title is confirmed, unless you think it is already.
Maybe we're getting two sets?
(Wishful thinking).Here is the WotC link:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndmin/9780786953004
I noticed that Amazon calls the August release for mini's Legendary Evils, but WotC has it in the catalog as Dungeon Lords...who is right?
I thought you might want to make a note until the correct title is confirmed, unless you think it is already.
Maybe we're getting two sets?
Here is the WotC link:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndmin/9780786953004
Legendary Evils has replaced Dungeon Lords as the name of the same pack.
We are getting two packs: MM- Dangerous Delves in May and MM- Legendary Evils in August
Standardized the links of the items that are now appearing on Amazon.
Did a scouring search. No new products announced. Curious when the 2010 ball will drop for new products, as we have release dates through December 2009. The only item we know for sure is the announced MP2. Then there is our assumptions about PHBIII, MMIII, and DMGIII.
Since there is no Artificer material in Arcane Power, I would assume we will see an AP2 as well, Not to mention Divine Power 2 and Primal Power 2 in there somewhere, along with whatever the primary power source is for PHBIII.
Here is an early estimation of what 2010 will look like, based on nothing other than the 2008/2009 release schedule and my own guesses. REPEAT: This is not even unofficial, just a guess:
2010
January: New Monster Class Setting Book (a 'la Open Grave, etc)
February: Martial Power 2
March: Player's Handbook 3
April: Arcane Power 2
May: Monster Manual 3
June: New Campaign Setting (Dark Sun, Dragonlance, etc)
July: Divine Power 2, New Campaign Setting Player's Guide
August: Adventurer's Vault 3, Primal Power 2 (perhaps)
September: Dungeon Master's Guide 3
October: Ki Power (or Shadow Power, Elemental Power, Psionic Power)
November: Monster Class Setting Book (a'la Draconomicon, etc), Primal Power 2 (perhaps, or swap with Ki Power)
December: Planar Book (Astral Sea, Shadowfell, Feywild, etc)
So that is a best guess based on their release schedule so far, and it all makes sense to me. Also, I will bet a shiny nickel that Ki Power is the next Power source.
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Standardized the links of the items that are now appearing on Amazon.
Did a scouring search. No new products announced. Curious when the 2010 ball will drop for new products, as we have release dates through December 2009. The only item we know for sure is the announced MP2. Then there is our assumptions about PHBIII, MMIII, and DMGIII.
Since there is no Artificer material in Arcane Power, I would assume we will see an AP2 as well, Not to mention Divine Power 2 and Primal Power 2 in there somewhere, along with whatever the primary power source is for PHBIII.
Here is an early estimation of what 2010 will look like, based on nothing other than the 2008/2009 release schedule and my own guesses. REPEAT: This is not even unofficial, just a guess:
2010
January: New Monster Class Setting Book (a 'la Open Grave, etc)
February: Martial Power 2
March: Player's Handbook 3
April: Arcane Power 2
May: Monster Manual 3
June: New Campaign Setting (Dark Sun, Dragonlance, etc)
July: Divine Power 2, New Campaign Setting Player's Guide
August: Adventurer's Vault 3, Primal Power 2 (perhaps)
September: Dungeon Master's Guide 3
October: Ki Power (or Shadow Power, Elemental Power, Psionic Power)
November: Monster Class Setting Book (a'la Draconomicon, etc), Primal Power 2 (perhaps, or swap with Ki Power)
December: Planar Book (Astral Sea, Shadowfell, Feywild, etc)
So that is a best guess based on their release schedule so far, and it all makes sense to me. Also, I will bet a shiny nickel that Ki Power is the next Power source.
Makes sense to me but who knows if they will come out with a DnD 4.5e LOL:D
Makes sense to me but who knows if they will come out with a DnD 4.5e LOL:D
I wouldn't expect a 4.5 for some time, there is a lot of milk left in this cow, and they would be foolish to mess with it.
The only caveat I have for the above schedule estimate is a line in the 3/2 Ampersand where he says that they are working on the campaign setting for "early next year". So those books may move up to Q1 or straddle the Q1/Q2 border
Bel
Do you think we will see anymore adventures after the current Epic tier trilogy is finished? Or will they leave it to 3pp to pick up the slack?
Bel
nah, they'll defiantly start to pick up on the sacred cow adventures (Tomb of horrors, Against the giants, etc) and other super adventures. Then I imagine we'll see a random distribution of advs, maybe even a few extra CS specific advs.
I think what comes out (in terms of adventures) will be very dependant on what is selling in this new 4e model.
If Dungeon Delve does well, I can guarantee that we will be seeing future Delve-esque books highlighting new releases such as new monster manuals and dungeon tiles. (most likely 1 a year or every other year)
If campaign settings do well, we will see a clamor for more adventures and supplements dealing with X campaign setting. (potentially multiple per year)
If Revenge of the Giants does well, we will probably see new super adventures (at least 1 a year)
At the very least we will see more adventures until we reach at least 3 per tier (a la 3 core H1s, 3 core H2s, 3 core H3s) to promote the ease in which games can be played. (This could be multiples per year, but I doubt you will see an entire set [H1-E3] in a single year)
Bel
Removed PHBII, Nightwyrm and the PHB Power Cards from the list as they dropped today.
I am the 10001st person to view this thread!
w00t!
Now that I have ensnared 10001 views, I must bide my time until I get 2010 info. . .
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/calendar
According to the Editorial Calendar, the Dates Of Arcane Power & Death's Reach Have Been Changed to 14th April
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/calendar
I am conflicted here. Wizards may have made a mistake, and i am waiting to see how it shakes out. Every online retailer I can find lists the release on the 21st. Once I see some confirmation that the 14th is, in fact, the street date, I will make the adjustment.
Let's be honest, it wouldn't be the first time something was screwed up on the calendar or on a catalog containing street dates.
I am conflicted here. Wizards may have made a mistake, and i am waiting to see how it shakes out. Every online retailer I can find lists the release on the 21st. Once I see some confirmation that the 14th is, in fact, the street date, I will make the adjustment.
Let's be honest, it wouldn't be the first time something was screwed up on the calendar or on a catalog containing street dates.
I agree. I think this is more likely an error than a change.
Eh when did you get any info about the Dragon Annual? The first I heard, as far as official word goes, was at DDXP. Was the Amazon page up before then?
And yes, I know that Amazon has had Dungeon Annual listed for a while.....however Wizards has never yet to list it in any source. I really doubt that it is going to be an actual product, at least come May.
And the May Preview box on the Main Page confirmed it: No Dungeon Annual for May '09.
New catalog is out. I don't know how much info relevent to your thread is there that is new, but I thought you should at least take a look.
Links:
http://www.amazon.com/Eberron-Campaign-Guide-4th-Supplement/dp/0786950994/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239025213&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Eberron-Players-Guide-4th-Supplement/dp/0786951001/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239025213&sr=8-3
Also, I spoke with my local game shop, Arcane Power is still on his delivery schedule for April 21st, but he did say he has had books magically show up early in the past, so he wasn't putting it beyond possibility that it would drop the 14th.
I am conflicted here. Wizards may have made a mistake, and i am waiting to see how it shakes out. Every online retailer I can find lists the release on the 21st. Once I see some confirmation that the 14th is, in fact, the street date, I will make the adjustment.
Let's be honest, it wouldn't be the first time something was screwed up on the calendar or on a catalog containing street dates.
Yup. You were right. They changed it back to 21st April. I am still hopping it'll be out as soon as possible.
With saying that, anyone know what's in DMG2?
Thanks...
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"Toss a coin in the fountain"
With saying that, anyone know what's in DMG2?
We know what's in the first post of this thread. A thread, BTW, which is for posting confirmed information, not asking about it or discussing it - though that rule tends to get broken a lot.
We know what's in the first post of this thread. A thread, BTW, which is for posting confirmed information, not asking about it or discussing it - though that rule tends to get broken a lot.
*Pst* Wrong thread. The one you are talking about is this one.
I was initially disappointed when they 1st introduced 4e because of the lack of classes. I understand now because of the length of each class entry. When the PH2 came out, I got excited.
With saying that, anyone know what's in DMG2?
Thanks...
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"Toss a coin in the fountain"
Zaresaria,
While Bolongo is correct (in that this is a schedule of releases), he did not redirect you to a thread that can help.
Ranadiel has a fantastic thread HERE which contains compiled info on all the upcoming books that have been discussed in "official" articles, news releases, threads, and features.
I hope this helps,
-ES
*Pst* Wrong thread. The one you are talking about is this one.
LOL!
*Pst* Wrong thread. The one you are talking about is this one.
Ehrrm... I was giving the guy the benefit of the doubt?
He would have been slightly less out of place in your thread, after all. So I imagined that was where we were... :P
Removed the products that hit the street today; Arcane Power, Death's Reach and the new Heroes Minis
Geez the list is starting to look bare. Kick down some Q1 2010 stuff WotC!
On both Amazon and on the WoTC release chart.
Looks like the dungeon annual is scrapped.
On both Amazon and on the WoTC release chart.
Hmmm. Interesting. The Dragon Annual remains (for now)
http://www.livingdice.com/1639/gts-2009-dungeons-and-dragons-seminar/
“Eberron Player’s Guide” comes out 6-16-09. “Eberron Campaign Guide” coues out 7-21-09.
To be fair, the Dungeon Annual was never actually on the WotC list, just on Amazon.
Actually, I don't think that's true, because I've been keeping my own private checklist based solely on the WotC list, and there definitely was a Dungeon Annual on it at one time, several months ago. I believe it had been scheduled for May.
A discussion in another thread pointed out that the Eberron book release dates were switched in a seminar by Scott Rouse over the weekend. Coverage can be found on the blog linked below.
http://www.livingdice.com/1639/gts-2009-dungeons-and-dragons-seminar/
Wait, what? Warum? Por que?
Actually, I don't think that's true, because I've been keeping my own private checklist based solely on the WotC list, and there definitely was a Dungeon Annual on it at one time, several months ago. I believe it had been scheduled for May.
I find that hard to believe since it was never in their catalogues which are their official lists of what products are going to be released.
Jan-Apr 2009
May-Aug 2009
Sep-Dec 2009
Wait, what? Warum? Por que?
Ummm exactly as I said? I'm not sure how I can make it any more specific.
I find that hard to believe since it was never in their catalogues which are their official lists of what products are going to be released.
Jan-Apr 2009
May-Aug 2009
Sep-Dec 2009
It may never have been in their catalogues, but I swear that it was listed on their Product Listing page at one point, perhaps for the same reason that it appeared on Amazon at one point.
You know me, R! You know that I cannot tell a lie!
Ummm exactly as I said? I'm not sure how I can make it any more specific.
lol Those two (foreign-language) "whys" were rhetorical, or at least directed at Le Rouse and WotC. It just seems odd, yeah?
http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/253589-wizards-coast-fall-2009-catalog-report.html
EnigmaShock: this link to the WotC catalog has pics attached of the covers of the all the books out then, including 4 that I believe you do not have up yet.
http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/253589-wizards-coast-fall-2009-catalog-report.html
good! thank you
EnigmaShock: this link to the WotC catalog has pics attached of the covers of the all the books out then, including 4 that I believe you do not have up yet.
http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/253589-wizards-coast-fall-2009-catalog-report.html
Thanks joydyhee!
I have updated the entries with the new pics. Kinda huge, but whatever.
Apparently, if you enter the proper name for the dragon annual (Dragon Annual: Volume 1) you get the right link (instead of 2009). So I updated the link and the pic with a nicer amazon one.
Looks like they also finally got the artwork for Prince of Undeath as well.
Something interesting on Amazon that was pointed out in another thread
32 pages at 9.95$ for a paperback?
make it 160 pages and 6 rakes at 34.95$!!!!!
they must be exploring new form of supplements
32 pages at 9.95$ for a paperback?
make it 160 pages and 6 rakes at 34.95$!!!!!
they must be exploring new form of supplements
Sounds like they are reverting back to the 2E paperback splat books, one for each race, once for each class, one for each spell, lol.
Sounds like they are reverting back to the 2E paperback splat books, one for each race, once for each class, one for each spell, lol.
I actually liked the complete handbook of... series, although I don't think they will be doing classes this time around, the power source books fill that bill. I can see further down the road a prayers for the faithful or manual of exploits collecting the powers for a source into one place.
Bel
32 pages at 9.95$ for a paperback?
make it 160 pages and 6 rakes at 34.95$!!!!!
they must be exploring new form of supplements
32 pages? That's practically a brochure. I wonder if it won't be a kind of "demo product", or a handful of prewritten Dragonborn characters and backgrounds.
(PS: I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "rakes"...)
Well, from the look of the cover of the E3 adventure, along with the description on Amazon, the rumored confrontation with Orcus can be made official.......now, back to the debate over the Icon Orcus figure that was dumped in 2007, lol. Time for a second look WOTC?
lol It was pretty obvious, considering almost all of the other adventures had to do with his cult, and the fact that his title is "The Prince of Undeath".
As for the Gargantuan Orcus Icon, it was probably intended to supplement this adventure path, which was itself probably planned well in advance of the release of 4E. (Orcus was on display at the same GenCon at which 4E was announced, and at which it was mentioned that Orcus would appear in the 4E MM.) Anyway, as perfect as that mini would be, it's almost certainly not going to happen at this point -- WotC knew that the adventure path would arrive at this point, but they also know that they won't make any money from a Gargantuan Orcus figure at this point in time.
Basically, we're probably out of luck.
I will look into the Dragonborn thing. I think this is the wrong way to go at this juncture. With a major book coming out every month, I don't know anyone who is willing to get this.
Also, can they take the foot of the gas with the dragonborn? There has been way too much placed on their scaly shoulders (and don't even get me started about the sorcerer)
Underdark and Player's Handbook Races added.
ALSO: check out the new picture of the New Monsters Mini pack
-PHBII Power Card Images Added
- Eberron Player's Guide and Eberron Campaign Guide have been switched to reflect the new release schedule
- Images resized where possible.
I just followed the link to Amazon regarding the minis for Monster Manual:Legendary Evils and read the following:
Each huge booster pack contains:
1 visible, non-random, huge-sized miniature -- pre-painted, fully assembled, durable plastic
4 hidden random miniatures (1 guaranteed to be large-sized) -- pre-painted, fully-assembled, durable plastic
Is it true? Are we going to get visible HUGE figures with this set?!?!?!?!
That makes for interesting gaming. I think more huge figures would be great!
It appears to be a troll with some kind of raking metal fingers. Add that to the three on the home page (Frost Giant, Cyclops and, I believe another troll with an executioner's axe) and I think we have 4 of the 8 visibles. The other large creatures we know about so far are a beholder eye tyrant, aboleth, unicorn, and hippogriff.
They say HERE that the following make up the collection:
"40 different miniatures, with 16 rares, 8 uncommon, 8 visible, and 8 common miniatures in the set"
They also say that of the rares, "about half" are large. So we can guess that we will get 6-7 large rares. The beholder will probably be one, as will the unicorn, the aboleth and perhaps the hippogriff.
That means that next week, we should see the prieview of at least 8(?) larges?
2 trolls and what? what will the final 4 visible be? any guesses?
2 trolls and what? what will the final 4 visible be? any guesses?
Hippogriff, Aboleth, Unicorn are 3 of them - I got that just from reading the previews.
I think I'd read somewhere before that the next set has Huge visibles, can't recall where though.
Today's mini preview elluded to a dragon for Friday's preview, I am hoping for an actual purple Deep dragon, the one from Underdark was not really a deep purple, more like a light black, that and I loved the write up in the Draconomicon......already have plans for it in my game :evillaugh
Unfortunately, it's not a Purple Dragon, but rather a (carmel-coloured) Young Gold Dragon. http://www.ddmspoilers.com/mm_01.php
He said there'd be a dragon and a couple of devils? Well, there's only one dragon and two devils in this set as far as I can tell: Young Gold Dragon (Rare), War Devil (Visible), and a Chain Devil.
Unfortunately, it's not a Purple Dragon, but rather a (carmel-coloured) Young Gold Dragon. http://www.ddmspoilers.com/mm_01.php
He said there'd be a dragon and a couple of devils? Well, there's only one dragon and two devils in this set as far as I can tell: Young Gold Dragon (Rare), War Devil (Visible), and a Chain Devil.
That sucks, other than the trolls, beholder and goblins, not really interested in this set.
Cool thing about that Gold Dragon is that you'll know you're buying it because it's visible. Awesome. Hopefully it will have Radiant powers this time instead of Fire.
Unfortunately, IIRC, it's not a visible figure either, but rather a Rare. (Rares are still randomized, they just come with a Rare-quality, non-randomized, Large, visible figure.) The visible figures from this set are: Aboleth Slime Mage, Bladerager Troll, Cyclops Crusher, Frost Giant, Hippogriff, Skalmad the Troll King*, Unicorn, and War Devil.
The Young Gold Dragon and the Beholder Eye Tyrant, among other, are still randomly distributed Rare figures. Sorry, gang.
Common:
1: Blood Scarab
2: Bloodseeker Drake
3: Foulspawn Grue
4: Goblin Sharpshooter
5: Grimlock Minion
6: Kruthik Young
7: Orc Terrorblade
8: Snake Swarm
Uncommon (Visible):
1: Aboleth Slime Mage (L)
2: Bladerager Troll (L)
3: Cyclops Crusher (L)
4: Frost Giant (L)
5: Hippogriff (L)
6: Skalmad the Troll King (L)
7: Unicorn (L)
8: War Devil (L)
Uncommon (Random):
1: Arbalester
2: Berbalang
3: Feygrove Choker
4: Gnoll Huntmaster
5: Goblin Delver
6: Kobold Wyrmpriest
7: Rust Monster
8: Yuan-Ti Fangblade
Rare:
1: Aspect of Vecna
2: Banshrae Warrior
3: Beholder Eye Tyrant (L)
4: Bonechill Chimera (L)
5: Chain Devil
6: Clay Golem (L)
7: Ghaele of Winter
8: Githyanki Warrior
9: Githzerai Zerth
10: Harpy
11: Hellstinger Scorpion (L)
12: Medusa Archer
13: Minotaur Battle Shaman
14: Orc Eye of Gruumsh
15: Xen'Drik Drow Stingblade
16: Young Gold Dragon (L)
I wonder how this will compare with Hero's Handbook: Dragonborn.
Wouldn't touch that book... its not D&D
I treat that just like I did Mongoose for 3.5
Unfortunately, IIRC, it's not a visible figure either, but rather a Rare. (Rares are still randomized, they just come with a Rare-quality, non-randomized, Large, visible figure.) The visible figures from this set are: Aboleth Slime Mage, Bladerager Troll, Cyclops Crusher, Frost Giant, Hippogriff, Skalmad the Troll King*, Unicorn, and War Devil.
The Young Gold Dragon and the Beholder Eye Tyrant, among other, are still randomly distributed Rare figures. Sorry, gang.
Nothing to be sorry about... The box will be noticeably heavier than a 1 large box. Just purchase those.
Wouldn't touch that book... its not D&D
I treat that just like I did Mongoose for 3.5
Of course its D&D. It might not be Core and it might not be WotC, but that doesn't mean its not D&D
Of course its D&D. It might not be Core and it might not be WotC, but that doesn't mean its not D&D
Of course it does mean it isn't D&D. It won't be balance and the like. Just like any crappy Mongoose product for the 3.5 line. You going to tell me that was D&D
?Of course it does mean it isn't D&D. It won't be balance and the like. Just like any crappy Mongoose product for the 3.5 line. You going to tell me that was D&D
If they enter into an agreement with WotC to produce D&D products and the book is created as part of this agreement, its D&D.
You don't get to decide whether or not a product is D&D. The owner of the trademark and copyright of D&D gets to do that. And for better or worse, that owner is currently Wizards of the Coast.
Also I don't know why you keep bringing up Mongoose Publishing. This is from Goodman Games and I couldn't find any connection with the people involved in this and Mongoose.
If they enter into an agreement with WotC to produce D&D products and the book is created as part of this agreement, its D&D.
You don't get to decide whether or not a product is D&D. The owner of the trademark and copyright of D&D gets to do that. And for better or worse, that owner is currently Wizards of the Coast.
Also I don't know why you keep bringing up Mongoose Publishing. This is from Goodman Games and I couldn't find any connection with the people involved in this and Mongoose.
Do you see the LARGE Dungeons and Dragons icon on the front? If not then it is not D&D. Anything can be used in any game.
About the Mongoose Publishing, I have already stated it use some critical thinking if you still have problems then I will put it in KISS format for you.
Red
Typo or something more?
I just followed the link to Amazon regarding the minis for Monster Manual:Legendary Evils and read the following:
Each huge booster pack contains:
1 visible, non-random, huge-sized miniature -- pre-painted, fully assembled, durable plastic
4 hidden random miniatures (1 guaranteed to be large-sized) -- pre-painted, fully-assembled, durable plastic
Is it true? Are we going to get visible HUGE figures with this set?!?!?!?!
Hence the increase in price.
Then you have another set that will come out in November.
Do you see the LARGE Dungeons and Dragons icon on the front? If not then it is not D&D.
Its on the first page, which shows it is a licensed D&D product.
Y'know this whole conversation could have been avoided had you simply not stated something patently false.
About the Mongoose Publishing, I have already stated it use some critical thinking if you still have problems then I will put it in KISS format for you.
You've been making claims that because its 3rd part it can't possibly be balanced, but that's as specific as you've gotten. You've also made no mention whatsoever about actually looking at the book. You simply seem to be derogatory towards any and all products 3rd party products. As if WotC is the only company able to produce something worthwhile.
3rd party is just that. It isn't 1st hence.. D&D.
You wouldn't be able to walk into my games with crap like that. You wouldn't be able to play any RPGA event with crap like that. Henceforth any GenCon or events of those natures as well.
Checkmate!!
3rd party is just that. It isn't 1st hence.. D&D.
As I said before, Goodman Games has entered into an agreement with WotC to produce D&D products and Hero's Handbook: Dragonborn is one of the D&D products.
You don't get to decide whether or not a product is D&D. The owner of the trademark and copyright of D&D gets to do that. And for better or worse, that owner is currently Wizards of the Coast.
You clearly don't like this. But there's nothing you can do to change it. Unless you feel like buying Wizards of the Coast off Hasbro.
As I said before, Goodman Games has entered into an agreement with WotC to produce D&D products and Hero's Handbook: Dragonborn is one of the D&D products.
You don't get to decide whether or not a product is D&D. The owner of the trademark and copyright of D&D gets to do that. And for better or worse, that owner is currently Wizards of the Coast.
You clearly don't like this. But there's nothing you can do to change it. Unless you feel like buying Wizards of the Coast off Hasbro.
clearly a failure in critical thinking.
Thanks for the laughs..
It is perfectly legitimate for home games, but will never find its way into RPGA or other sanctioned events.
3rd party products are part of the D&D family, but they are the awkward stepchildren that never get invited to reunions or included in wills.
This thread is for future WotC D&D releases and will never include 3rd party products (as this is one of those aforementioned family gatherings the stepchildren are not invited to).
If you want to start a flamewar between editions or 3rd party vs 1st party products, please do so elsewhere in a dedicated thread.
Thank you for flying Enigma Air . . .
3rd party is not canon.
I attempted to make that very clear in my initial response.
If you want to start a flamewar between editions or 3rd party vs 1st party products, please do so elsewhere in a dedicated thread.
I did not expect to get flamed for my original comment. I thought it a valid query. Next time I have a similar thought I'll try to ignore the bait that follows.
I was posting the reasons, from my perspective, that this was not an appropriate place for the discussion and what it had devolved into.
This thread (happily) stays pretty troll and flame free and I would like to keep it that way. You are always welcome to post questions, hopes, insights, hypothesi, etcetera regarding upcoming releases.
Thanks for understanding.
And those updated pics of the possible cover artwork for the upcomming releases are pretty cool, Thanks.
Just saw on Amazon.com two new releases for the upcomming year of 2010: Underdark http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786953861 and Player's Handbook Races: Dragonborn http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078695387X
And those updated pics of the possible cover artwork for the upcomming releases are pretty cool, Thanks.
Thanks for the submission. Those 2010 items (underdark and dragonborn) have been up for a couple weeks now, and are listed in the first 2 threads.
The images for the new products (plane below, et al) were submitted by other forum lurkers, but they are great
Not sure if its been posted elsewhere, but I just got an e-mail about increased content to the DDI subscription as well as a pricing change and in the e-mail it gave the release month of the PH3 as March 2010.
Yeah, I just received that email myself, and considering the last two debuted in March it was a safe bet.
I, as always, will await a link (either in WotC site or Amazon) to add it to the list.
Thank you for your diligence, kind citizen.
Yeah, I just received that email myself, and considering the last two debuted in March it was a safe bet.
Psst the first one was June, so it was only the last one which debuted in March.:P
Psst the first one was June, so it was only the last one which debuted in March.:P
I stand corrected. Damn you and your +2 Lute of Snarkiness . . .
I stand corrected. Damn you and your +2 Lute of Snarkiness . . .
Hey don't insult me. It is a +6 Keyboard of Snarkiness.:P
Scored with a fire scorpion, harpy, chimera, and beholder (among some other rares), 2 rust monsters and 2 yuan-ti fangblades! I am a happy camper
Martial Power 2 just appeared on Amazon. - Feb 16, 2010
Miniatures:
Players Handbook Heroes (Series 3) includes Arcane 4 & 5, Divine 4, and Primal 4 & 5 - Feb 16, 2010
Just opened my first few boxes of DD minis.
Scored with a fire scorpion, harpy, chimera, and beholder (among some other rares), 2 rust monsters and 2 yuan-ti fangblades! I am a happy camper
I'm curious; are you satisfied with the quality of them? The last few sets have looked a lot better in person than in the galleries. I trust your opinion about it, Enigma.
I'm curious; are you satisfied with the quality of them? The last few sets have looked a lot better in person than in the galleries. I trust your opinion about it, Enigma.
I was not thrilled with the Heroes minis, although I will be using two of them in an upcoming new campaign (the goliath barbarian and the elf druid as a razorclaw shifter).
These monster minis, on the other hand (with a couple of exceptions) are quite nice. There is some surprising detail in them. I opened the boxes at my FLGS and the owner, who is a big mini guy, was also commenting on the quality of the paint. He powers through more minis in a day than I have seen in my life, so I trust his eye. The kobold cursechanter (or whatever) is more detailed than I thought, as well as the goblin delver. The grimlocks, on the other hand, look almost comically duotoned.
The good thing is that you can see the quality of the visibles, and decide if you want those right off the bat. I mean, who couldn't use a bunch of trolls and cyclops? I don't care for the frost giant paint job, but it is still a useful figure. The aboleth had a better paint job than the photos show, it is almost metallic.
The unicorn looks nice, but I just don't see any use in my games for a unicorn. I have never used or encountered one in almost 30 years of play (except a dead one once, but that's a different story - beware the zombie unicorn!). The War Devil is nice and makes a nice edition to higher level devil-themed campaigns.
http://www.amazon.com/Reavers-Harkenwold-Adventure-HS1-4th/dp/0786953888/
And we now have KotS 2.0! Presenting "Reavers of Harkenwold", a February adventure module release marked "HS1" (H for Heroic tier, S for second?). IIRC, Harkenwold is mentioned in the DMG's entry on the Nentir Vale.
http://www.amazon.com/Reavers-Harkenwold-Adventure-HS1-4th/dp/0786953888/
Hmmm . . .Very Interesting . . . .
Reavers of Harkenwold Adventure added for Feb 2010
martial power 2 on amazon
snip
You left this one out.
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Martial Heroes 5 (Feb 16, 2010)
Hi
You left this one out.
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Martial Heroes 5 (Feb 16, 2010)
***UPDATED***
Added Martial Heroes 5 (I scanned for more like 5 times the day I posted, these guys must have been stragglers. Must have a dwarf in the party . . .:P )
Holy Carp! LET IT BEGIN!
Glad to see this!!!
I was hoping Minotaurs would get a more detailed write up. I just hope R&D/WotC adds more to the Minotaur than they take away when PH3 is released.
I also hope PH3 includes Orcs and Goblins as PC races.
Glad to see this!!!
I was hoping Minotaurs would get a more detailed write up. I just hope R&D/WotC adds more to the Minotaur than they take away when PH3 is released.
I also hope PH3 includes Orcs and Goblins as PC races.
Indeed. . . I have a deep desire to play a minotaur, and always have - but for some reason, it has eluded me.
There was some minotaur love in a Dragon magazine, which is in the character builder. While I was upset they nurfed the oversized weapons, I understand why.
Sorry if this is old news, but I haven't seen Underdark mentioned yet, or at least not in the compiled list at the beginning of the thread.
No worries. It is chronologically listed on the first post between the (oversized) Plane Below and PHB3 Images.
Thanks for your diligence.
I mean, we're up to March already with the PHB3, not to mention whatever else may be out there; novels, minis, etc.
Bel
I wonder when WotC will update the products release page on the main site?
I mean, we're up to March already with the PHB3, not to mention whatever else may be out there; novels, minis, etc.
Bel
If memory serves, they started posting Jan/Feb stuff about 5-6 months out. It was definitely at the end of summer last year
Looking at the calendar, there are previews of DP (that's Divine Power, people) on June 15, 19, 22, and 26, so I would say the likelihood that it is delayed is slim to none.
Agreed. Divine Power will include PHB and PHB2 Divine characters. Now that we have confirmation on a Martial Power 2, it is reasonable to assume that we will get a Divine Power 2 at some point (as well as a Primal Power 2 and Psychic Power) which will address the new PHB3 classes, as well as previous ones.
Speaking of PHB3 Divine classes, does anyone have an inkling as to what these could be? I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a striker or controller with minor healing abilities, similar to Lay on Hands
I wonder if he worships Lord Porterhouse or Kobe, the Drunken Calf?
My guess would be Divine Champion of (insert deity of choice).
Time to whip out all the 3.0/3.5 "divine" splat books and see what prestige class might be updated to a core class.....
My guess would be Divine Champion of (insert deity of choice).
I'm actually a bit upset that they are adding another Dive class(es), as I think they have that pretty well rounded with the four classes already in the PHB and PHB2. I'm hoping that WoTC doesn't go all 3.0/3.5E on us by pumping out needless classes in an effort to make us just spend money (yes, I know that is what businesses do). Whatever this class, or these classes, may be, they'd better be good if WoTC expects me to shell out the money they charge.
Additionally, with the current prestige classes, being a "Champion of is pretty covered. If you like a Prestige class from another Divine class, see what your DM will allow you to do to become that prestige class. Maybe he/she will allow you to do so after a series of quests to prove your worthiness.
My DM has his own world (soon to be published, BTW), that has feats and such for each of that world's deities, including prestige tier feats, so being a "Champion" in his world is rather easy and more about role-playing than which Divine character class you took.
Reavers of Harkenwold: Adventure HS1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786953888/ref=ox_ya_oh_product
Any word on it? .......ooops just saw a post up above....
Hey I saw this:
Reavers of Harkenwold: Adventure HS1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786953888/ref=ox_ya_oh_product
Any word on it? .......ooops just saw a post up above....
Yeah, I have it up on Post #2 with the adventures.
To answer your question, No, we know nothing about it. It is assumed that it is the first in a new set of adventures utilizing the lessons learned in their first adventure set, as well as MMII and PHBII info. That's my guess, anyway.
*Flips through his pile of Ruthless Ruffian Rogue power cards*
Isn't it time that the Martial Power Power cards got removed?
*Flips through his pile of Ruthless Ruffian Rogue power cards*
Whoops!
Wraskily Power Cards!
Housecleaning, removed the products that launched today:
Eberron Player's Guide
E2 Kingdom of the Ghouls
DU4 Arcane Towers
Still wondering why official artwork has not been uploaded for Plane Below and Draco II . . .
Although I love all the content they put out, Wizards is milking this to a ridiculous degree. The players handbook 3?!?! I mean, I know times are tough but this is getting out of hand.
Not really. They said from the start, 1 new players handbook, DM guide, and MM guide per year. If that model keeps this edition around for a longer period of time, that much the better. And really, what is the problem? The new players guides are pretty much just more races and classes. No problem with that.
I'm hoping for the drow to be added to the available races for character creation:D . I'm actually getting kind of obsessed by it. ;)
Forgotten Realms Player's Guide.
I'm hoping for the drow to be added to the available races for character creation:D . I'm actually getting kind of obsessed by it. ;)
Drow are available for character creation. They are found in the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide. They are also legal on the Character Builder.
My one disappointment in the EPG is the lack of Drow in the races section whwere it discusses other races in Eberron. I would have liked to have seen more feats related to Xen'Drik as well
My one disappointment in the EPG is the lack of Drow in the races section whwere it discusses other races in Eberron. I would have liked to have seen more feats related to Xen'Drik as well
I take that as an indication that they occur very rarely outside Xen'Drik. It's likely they'll be mentioned in the ECG and/or that a Dragon article will be devoted to them.
I take that as an indication that they occur very rarely outside Xen'Drik. It's likely they'll be mentioned in the ECG and/or that a Dragon article will be devoted to them.
I actually took it as an error of omission OR a future dedication in a Xen'Drik splat book. If you look at some of the other entries, especially Devas, they talk about their rarity, and how you may actually be the only one in existence. What could be rarer than that?
I'm also hoping for a preview of beyond soon. I would like to know what is 2010 going to hold us. PHB3, MP2, DMG3, MM3, AV3, and Psionic Power. Is there going to be any other Power books?
Details on what the Dragonborn book will be about would be nice. Since it hardly has any pages I just want to know if it would be more than the reprints of the ecology and info in Dragon. Which then would it mean that other races will be getting this love as well.
I actually took it as an error of omission OR a future dedication in a Xen'Drik splat book. If you look at some of the other entries, especially Devas, they talk about their rarity, and how you may actually be the only one in existence. What could be rarer than that?
My opinion is that Drow were left out of the talk on the basis that Eberron is very "Khorvaire-centric". I expect to see more mention of them in the Eberron Campaign Guide.
Harrowing Halls
http://www.amazon.com/Harrowing-Halls-Dungeon-Tiles-Accessory/dp/0786953977/ref=sr_1_55?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246049771&sr=1-55
It's listed as $11.95 instead of $9.95 too
Plus if you look close enough they give what are the Rare, Uncommon (which I believe are Fixed Visuals) and the common.
I'm just hoping for some Weapon love soon. Goliath Battlehammer weapon doing 3d6 or 4d6 was a nice touch. Need weapons that are like a 60 pound stone at the end of a stick ;) Also I'm hoping for the Monkey Grip feat to make its return and along with improved critical/keen weapons. Yes some Martial Power Classes (2 of them) have 1 at will a piece than can do this but I'm hoping for more.
I'm also hoping for a preview of beyond soon. I would like to know what is 2010 going to hold us. PHB3, MP2, DMG3, MM3, AV3, and Psionic Power. Is there going to be any other Power books?
Details on what the Dragonborn book will be about would be nice. Since it hardly has any pages I just want to know if it would be more than the reprints of the ecology and info in Dragon. Which then would it mean that other races will be getting this love as well.
This post should probably have been its own thread. We all have and do post our opinions in this thread, to discuss them with others, but maybe we should all leave this thread alone.
/Luke? A Jedi Knight?
OK Let's see here . . .
Added PHB3 official Amazon Link, Harrowing Halls, and Divine Power Cards, although Paladin is missing
Divine Power - Paladin Power Cards: A 4th Edition D&D Accessory
D'oh, I tried to put a link, but it didn't work, anyways the Paladin cards are up at Amazon
Hello from Amazon.com. We are writing about the order you placed on (edited out). The item(s) listed below will actually ship sooner than we originally expected:
Chris Youngs "Dragon Magazine Annual, Volume 1: A 4th Edition D&D Compilation"
Previous estimated arrival date: September 17 2009
New estimated arrival date: August 20 2009
I just recieved this email from Amazon.
They didnt tell me about that but then again I group that shipment with the DMG2. I don't need the Annual early.
Stay healthy.
Bel
Sorry I have been out of it guys, medical stuff and a bit of a hospital stay. I will be back on top of in maybe later this week.
Feel better, dude!
May 18th 2010
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Dungeon Magazine Annual
May 18th 2010
I'm curious to see what this is a compilation of, the misc adventures only, articles only, the best articles/misc adventures or all the Scales of War adventures.
I'm curious to see what this is a compilation of, the misc adventures only, articles only, the best articles/misc adventures or all the Scales of War adventures.
hoper for monster/magic item/classes/option
adventure wouldn't make much sense imo at least
hoper for monster/magic item/classes/option
adventure wouldn't make much sense imo at least
For a DDI subscriber, it doesn't make sense but then that's not who they will be marketed to primarily, non-subscribers would want the adventures since they don't have access to them and the cost of the book is less than the yearly subscription.
For a DDI subscriber, it doesn't make sense but then that's not who they will be marketed to primarily, non-subscribers would want the adventures since they don't have access to them and the cost of the book is less than the yearly subscription.
but adventure have another format, why publish them as an hardbound book?
but adventure have another format, why publish them as an hardbound book?
Either I don't understand what point you are trying to make, or you don't understand mine. (no one's fault considering seperate countries, so this isn't a jab)
The adventures that come in the (online only) Dungeon Magazine currently have one format: PDF. And they are only accessed by subscribers, so in order for non-subscribers to get them would be to buy the hardcover annual (if they include them that is). Paizo did the same thing with the adventure path in the old 3.5 Dungeon Magazine; reprinted all the adventures (already printed in the physical magazines) in one hardcover book, and I remember it sold pretty well.
I hope someone actually prints an hard cover of Age of Worms
Yes I rather buy a hard cover of something than read an electronic copy. I just hope they did boxed sets more. So you don't have to rip your book apart to get at the maps.
hoper for monster/magic item/classes/option
adventure wouldn't make much sense imo at least
Well, a compilation of Dungeon magazine can hardly include anything but adventures. There are no articles about the stuff you're asking for in Dungeon - that's Dragon magazine.
Then again, this publication is far enough out that they might have accomplished the change in content they've been talking about by then. Dunno if they'll have accumulated a year's worth of material, though.
until now they didnt publish any hardbound adventure, why start now?
if they are going to publish dungeon adventure I would expect the normal format they are using for adventures
a book of adventure is less interesting than a book of monster/spell/object/monster
just my 2 cent
ok, I'll try again
until now they didnt publish any hardbound adventure, why start now?
if they are going to publish dungeon adventure I would expect the normal format they are using for adventures
No, because 1 year+ of adventures is way too many pages to fit into the softcover format.
Also: Dungeon Delve. This disproves your theory that there have been no hardcover adventure books.
a book of adventure is less interesting than a book of monster/spell/object/monster
So don't buy it then. Your interests don't change the fact that if they name something "Dungeon Annual", it can only contain material from Dungeon Magazine.
even if I am in insider from the beginning and I have paid for it until december 2010
I was just speculating on the contents of the book
in the various adventure were presented lots of monsters, objects and other "goodies" but maybe I made the wrong hyphotesis and they'll make a book of adventures
ok, I'll try again
until now they didnt publish any hardbound adventure, why start now?
if they are going to publish dungeon adventure I would expect the normal format they are using for adventures
a book of adventure is less interesting than a book of monster/spell/object/monster
just my 2 cent
Dungeon Delve is your hardbound adventure... Loosely
Well, a compilation of Dungeon magazine can hardly include anything but adventures. There are no articles about the stuff you're asking for in Dungeon - that's Dragon magazine.
Then again, this publication is far enough out that they might have accomplished the change in content they've been talking about by then. Dunno if they'll have accumulated a year's worth of material, though.
July marks the change in Dungeon. It will have DM info it now as well as adventures. Dragon will be for player info.
July marks the change in Dungeon. It will have DM info it now as well as adventures. Dragon will be for player info.
No the change hasn't occured completely yet. There are still DM articles in Dragon. However they are moving towards having the two magazines split entirely in concept, and that should hopefully be done by the end of the year.
No the change hasn't occured completely yet.
You mean as in "not at all"? ;)
Looking at the August Calendar, Dungeon seems to be getting a new feature called "Campaign Workshop". That's it for changes thus far.
TBH it doesn't seem sensible to me to make the content change piecemeal, anyway. They should just make a clean break.
You mean as in "not at all"? ;)
Looking at the August Calendar, Dungeon seems to be getting a new feature called "Campaign Workshop". That's it for changes thus far.
TBH it doesn't seem sensible to me to make the content change piecemeal, anyway. They should just make a clean break.
Well they are starting to seperate the articles out(Dieties & Demigods's player material being turned into a seperate article, Channel Divinity), they just aren't moving the DM articles over yet. My guess is that they are trying to increase the number of player related articles, so that they have a larger pool of player related submissions so that they can be sure that they don't end up with a two article issue of Dragon shortluy after the reshuffling.
until now they didnt publish any hardbound adventure, why start now?
if they are going to publish dungeon adventure I would expect the normal format they are using for adventures
First let me point out (since others mentioned Dungeon Delve) that the Revenge of the Giants super adventure will be a hardbound book (unless they changed their minds yet again, which is possible since it was to be a boxed set). So there is "Strike Two" in that argument.
Also, we are not talking about one adventure, we are talking about either many of the misc adventures or the entire Scales of War adventure path combined into one book. It's possible they will make it a soft cover book, but really, why do that when the Dragon Annual is already committed to hardcover?
But it really sounds like you are more interested in the Dragon Annual (magic items and the like), which will be out sooner. But don't buy it looking for something new, everything in those pages will be from past (at the time of publication, not delivery) issues.
First let me point out (since others mentioned Dungeon Delve) that the Revenge of the Giants super adventure will be a hardbound book (unless they changed their minds yet again, which is possible since it was to be a boxed set). So there is "Strike Two" in that argument.
oh that's bad news for me; I was looking forward to the boxed set
But it really sounds like you are more interested in the Dragon Annual (magic items and the like), which will be out sooner. But don't buy it looking for something new, everything in those pages will be from past (at the time of publication, not delivery) issues.
I already preordered everything
yes I prefer paper to pdf, I am an old one, the pic is not casual, that's my first paper PH
Details Wizards Coast 2010 spring catalog.
Bel
In August's Previews article, "Revenge of the Giants" has been moved to September, and Dragon Magazine Annual was not previewed with the other September releases. *Sigh* These Dragon and Dungeon books feel like vapourware...
I'm not sure they'd feel the need to preview the Dragon Annual, inasmuch as it's been entirely "previewed" in the pages of Dragon.
I'm not sure they'd feel the need to preview the Dragon Annual, inasmuch as it's been entirely "previewed" in the pages of Dragon.
But we don't know which articles get published. I'm hoping for those planar epic destinies!
But we don't know which articles get published. I'm hoping for those planar epic destinies!
And Lord save us all if they haven't been heavily revised...
These Dragon and Dungeon books feel like vapourware...
Vaporware? Based on one lack of mention? How drama queen of you.
Especially considering the Dragon Annual is listed right there in the right-hand column of the main page, with a cover and everything.
I mean come on, it hasn't even been delayed, it's right on schedule, and you're babbling about vaporware? Puh-leeze...
Vaporware? Based on one lack of mention? How drama queen of you.
Especially considering the Dragon Annual is listed right there in the right-hand column of the main page, with a cover and everything.
I mean come on, it hasn't even been delayed, it's right on schedule, and you're babbling about vaporware? Puh-leeze...
I guess you missed the Amazon listing for "Dungeon Annual" scheduled for release in May 2009.
EDIT: Just checked Amazon. It still has Dragon Annual listed for August. Amazon, you are the weakest link! Good-bye!
EDIT: Just checked Amazon. It still has Dragon Annual listed for August. Amazon, you are the weakest link! Good-bye!
Actually, I'm fairly certain that August is the correct date. It was moved up at the same time that Revenge of the Gaints was moved down.
I guess you missed the Amazon listing for "Dungeon Annual" scheduled for release in May 2009.
No, I didn't miss it. The Dungeon Annual has never had a release date from WotC before the spring catalog, which just came out. Apparently some retailers get the info early. *shrug* Anyway, totally beside the point.
EDIT: Just checked Amazon. It still has Dragon Annual listed for August. Amazon, you are the weakest link! Good-bye!
Amazon has had dates listed for products that differed from the D&D website's dates before. Sometimes they've been proven right, sometimes not. But looking at the official website there has never been any other date than September posted for the Dragon Annual.
No, I didn't miss it. The Dungeon Annual has never had a release date from WotC before the spring catalog, which just came out. Apparently some retailers get the info early. *shrug* Anyway, totally beside the point.
Actually the spring catalog only went up to April, so we still have no official word from WotC on Dungeon Annual. We'll know for sure in about 4 months. :P
And the Hammerfast Dwarven Outpost Adventure Site is scheduled for April 20, 2010
Wish they'd update the WotC product page.
Bel
Superior implements were pushed back to PH3 due to space needs. Look forward to them there.
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Major Update! (sorry for the delay)
- New products added: Plane Above, Hammerfast, Three-Dragon Ante, Dungeon Annual.
- Divine Power Cards: Paladin finally lsited by Amazon
- Release Dates fixed for Dragon Annual, Revenge of the Giants.
- Pictures (finally) updated for Plane Below, DMG 2, and Draconomicon 2 (Thanks WotC!)
We are good through April 2010, or at least for the products announced so far.
***UPDATED***
We are good through April 2010, or at least for the products announced so far.
A miniature set "Streets of Shadow" has been announced for April 2010,
I think it's in the Spring Catalog.
Also the Player's Handbook Heroes; Series 2 needs to be removed from the list.
P.S. Thanks for putting this list together. It's very helpful and much appreciated!
Post #285 on this page has a link to Enworld where the Catalog is listed.
It also has some Cover art at the bottom of the page.
A miniature set "Streets of Shadow" has been announced for April 2010,
I think it's in the Spring Catalog.
Also the Player's Handbook Heroes; Series 2 needs to be removed from the list.
P.S. Thanks for putting this list together. It's very helpful and much appreciated!
Post #285 on this page has a link to Enworld where the Catalog is listed.
It also has some Cover art at the bottom of the page.
I will look into it, thanks!
Why, exactly, does Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 2 need to be removed? I see it still slated for release next week.
Added the artwork from the EnWorld Post for some Spring items (thanks Jr665!)
I will look into it, thanks!
the "Plane Above: secrets of the astral sea" cover put me in peace with any setting they will realese in 2010
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I will look into it, thanks!
Why, exactly, does Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 2 need to be removed? I see it still slated for release next week.
They came out last month(July Release)
They came out last month(July Release)
Actually, besides WotC assertion to the contrary, every retail source I can find for them has them for Preorder on August 18, so unless you can support that they are (in fact) on the shelves, I am going to have to leave it as is.
but no biggie, get rid of them next week.
It's all the same in the end.
I bought them last month.
but no biggie, get rid of them next week.
It's all the same in the end.
Hmm. . . Well, I will keep my eye out, as you may have read I was out of commission last month.
Like you said, its no biggie, I would just rather err on the side of too much info.
;)
Added MM3, DMG3, Dark Sun, Demonomicon, Dungeon Tile Master Set, Tomb of Horrors, player's strategy guide, and Heroscape (whatever that is)
EDIT: I guess heroscape is some kind of collectable mini thing from Hasbro. Who knew?
It was made by the same guy who made Hero Quest. Also, the Castle Ravenloft Board game comes out in August.
It was made by the same guy who made Hero Quest. Also, the Castle Ravenloft Board game comes out in August.
Yeah, since it was a board game, I was holding off. Once I get a little more info about heroscape, I may drop that from the roster too, or at least move it to the minis section.
June 2010, Players handbook races: Tieflings, as the Dragonborn one in january.
32 pages each.
Second Paragraph under An early look at 2010, http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/drfe/20090814
June 2010, Players handbook races: Tieflings, as the Dragonborn one in january.
32 pages each.
You are right. I did read this, but obviously I blocked it out (mainly cause I object to these books on principal). I added it in now.
I am amazed how much WotC LOVES the Dragonborn and Tieflings. I mean, I like them fine, but WotC wants to have their babies or something.
I would rather see a format similar to the old "Races of . . ." from 3.5. I enjoyed those books.
You are right. I did read this, but obviously I blocked it out (mainly cause I object to these books on principal). I added it in now.
I am amazed how much WotC LOVES the Dragonborn and Tieflings. I mean, I like them fine, but WotC wants to have their babies or something.
I would rather see a format similar to the old "Races of . . ." from 3.5. I enjoyed those books.
I'm sure the other races will get a turn. I'm a Bit surprised that Tiefling is second. When the dragonborn book was announced, I assumed Dwarves would be next, just going in order.
Heroscape is a (kind of) board game that uses hex-shaped tiles for battlefields and a more simplified miniatures combat system than D&D. It was originally from Hasbro, but they turned it over to Wizards...I think it was about a year ago. The set is going to use some rebased D&D figures, so I don't know if that means you should leave it on there or what.
At least Heroscape boosters have all of the figures visible. Now we can know exactly which minis we're getting.
I'm sure the other races will get a turn. I'm a Bit surprised that Tiefling is second. When the dragonborn book was announced, I assumed Dwarves would be next, just going in order.
It kinda makes sense. They're doing Dragonborn and Tieflings first because they're the new 4E PHB races. They're like the poster children of 4E.
It kinda makes sense. They're doing Dragonborn and Tieflings first because they're the new 4E PHB races. They're like the poster children of 4E.
We should probably expect them to do Eladrin next then, by this logic.
Personally, I'm not sure if we can count on a book for every race. Already there's 21* races that have received player-race write-ups, and we know that number will be at least 23* (but probably 24*) by the time we have PH3 -- by which point we will have seen only one of these "Player's Handbook Races" books. In short, there's going to be a heck of a lot of races to talk about, and at a pace of one book every six months, they'll likely never catch up. (Although we know that D&DI Exclusive races probably will never get such a product anyway.)
*Races, by my count: PH1 (8) Dragonborn, Dwarf, Eladrin, Elf, Half-Elf, Halfling, Human, Tiefling; FRPG (2) Drow, Genasi; PH2 (5) Deva, Gnome, Goliath, Half-Orc, Shifter; EPG (3) Changeling, Kalashtar, Warforged; D&DI (3) Gnoll, Minotaur, Revenant -- PH3 (2 or 3 new) Githzerai, Wilden, and one other race.
Alphabetically: Changeling, Deva, Dragonborn, Drow, Dwarf, Eladrin, Elf, Genasi, Githzerai, Gnoll, Gnome, Goliath, Half-Elf, Halfling, Half-Orc, Human, Kalashtar, Minotaur, Revenant, Shifter, Tiefling, Warforged, Wilden; plus one as-yet-unrevealed race from PH3.
We should probably expect them to do Eladrin next then, by this logic.
I disagree with Eladrin being next. I think that either the Deva or Genasi will be next as they seem to be the races that the developers love the most next to the Dragonborn or Tieflings.....although that might just be me projecting my own feelings.:P
I disagree with Eladrin being next. I think that either the Deva or Genasi will be next as they seem to be the races that the developers love the most next to the Dragonborn or Tieflings.....although that might just be me projecting my own feelings.:P
Those might be cooler, I admit.
We should probably expect them to do Eladrin next then, by this logic.
Personally, I'm not sure if we can count on a book for every race. Already there's 21* races that have received player-race write-ups, and we know that number will be at least 23* (but probably 24*) by the time we have PH3 -- by which point we will have seen only one of these "Player's Handbook Races" books. In short, there's going to be a heck of a lot of races to talk about, and at a pace of one book every six months, they'll likely never catch up. (Although we know that D&DI Exclusive races probably will never get such a product anyway.)
*Races, by my count: PH1 (8) Dragonborn, Dwarf, Eladrin, Elf, Half-Elf, Halfling, Human, Tiefling; FRPG (2) Drow, Genasi; PH2 (5) Deva, Gnome, Goliath, Half-Orc, Shifter; EPG (3) Changeling, Kalashtar, Warforged; D&DI (3) Gnoll, Minotaur, Revenant -- PH3 (2 or 3 new) Githzerai, Wilden, and one other race.
Alphabetically: Changeling, Deva, Dragonborn, Drow, Dwarf, Eladrin, Elf, Genasi, Githzerai, Gnoll, Gnome, Goliath, Half-Elf, Halfling, Half-Orc, Human, Kalashtar, Minotaur, Revenant, Shifter, Tiefling, Warforged, Wilden; plus one as-yet-unrevealed race from PH3.
True, but on the other hand, if the first two sell well, WotC will probably speed up production on the later ones. Frankly one writer and one artist should be able to do 32 pages in a month, especially if they have a decent design bible to work from.
i don't think it makes much sense to separate both of the gith races like that
also, where is it said that there are only three races in the PHB3? i haven't seen that, and i'd like to, mostly just to be irritated
When will we see Oriental Adventures for 4th ed? Can't wait.
Never(well not in the next year or so at least)
its my thought if they are putting the githzerai in a book, the githyanki are right along with it
i don't think it makes much sense to separate both of the gith races like that
also, where is it said that there are only three races in the PHB3? i haven't seen that, and i'd like to, mostly just to be irritated
Yanki are confirmed as not being in PHB3, and we know there are only 4 races in PHB3. However that is off topic, so if you wish to disccuss it furth please move the discussion to its own thread.
its my thought if they are putting the githzerai in a book, the githyanki are right along with it
i don't think it makes much sense to separate both of the gith races like that
also, where is it said that there are only three races in the PHB3? i haven't seen that, and i'd like to, mostly just to be irritated
If you're referring to the list I posted above, one race that's not listed under "PH3" -- because it's already listed under D&DI -- is Minotaur, which is also confirmed. (The complete list is Githzerai, Minotaur, Wilden, and one unrevealed race.) As for Githyanki, you're not alone in thinking that they would appear with Githzerai, but WotC has confirmed that 'Yanki won't be in PH3. WotC has stated its reasons for this, and you can discuss them in any of the several other threads that already exist for that topic.
ah i see, thank you for the knowledge, i don't usually come onto the forums much so i didn't know. while i do think that's pretty lame i'll just have to deal with it, haha. once again thank you, and i hope i didn't sound to retarded in that last post hah
No worries, and welcome to the boards! And FWIW, trust us when Ranadiel and I say you're not even close to being the stupidest person we've talked to around here! :P
Hi.
I have just been over at Amazon.com and I have pre-orders for the following products for 2010:
For January 2010, Realms of the Dead (anthology), Players Handbook Races: Dragonborn, Underdark
For February 2010, The God Catcher (Greenwood's Waterdeep), Martial Power II, Reavers of Harkenwold (HS1) and, yes, I saw that the Dragon magazine Annual has a tie-in to this module
For March 2010, Avenger (Blades of the Moonsea III), Players Handbook III
For April 2010, The Captive Flame (Griffon Brotherhood I), The Plane Above, Hammerfast
Monster Manual III has not yet been listed for pre-order on Amazon.com
For May 2010, Dungeon Magazine Annual
For June 2010, Circle of Skulls (Greenwood's Waterdeep), Player's Strategy Guide
my two cents worth....
Reavers of Harkenwold (HS1) is pushed back to May 2010.
Just wanted to drop in a line: The stories of my death have been greatly exaggerated. That is all . ..
Not sure if you noticed this, but it seems oddly conflicted. It is called the Slaying Stone, but also has the designation of HS1. It has the picture of Reavers of Harkenwold, but a release date in May.
If I were to venture a guess, assuming it is not complete garbage, I would say that the name and release date are correct and that it should probably be designated HS2.
Anyone else have any info?
There seems to be a Dark Sun themed dungon tile set
Just wanted to drop in a line: The stories of my death have been greatly exaggerated. That is all . ..
Hi
Are you still doing this?
If you are;
There's still stuff up from August and September that need to be deleted,
and there's 2 entries for the Dragonborn Races book.
I am, I have just been travelling a lot for work. I will update this as soon as I am able.
I am, I have just been travelling a lot for work. I will update this as soon as I am able.
Holy F**** s*** TOMB OF HORRORS! I JUST INPLODED EXPLODED DIED 90000 TIMES BECAME A ZOMBIE GOD Died Became mortal learned to dance and ate a 90 pies and became a 14 year old again!
Dragonborn! Thats pretty good to as well as underdark and the other stuff!
Okay so the reason it took me so long to update was that the new forum format screwed up all the old forum post and as soon as I edited it it condensed into a horrible HTML blob, which I just spent the last hour fixing for the first post only.
Now after posting, the spacing is a mess and there is no real solution to the spacing issues - even when I go into HTML and remove line spacing to be exact, the images and words get all jumbled together.
I am kind of at my witts end here. I don't even want to deal with the second post till I get the first squared away. Any Suggestions?
Upload the raw HTML please. I'll edit it in no time flat.
You may need to upload this as a text document somewhere (in fact, I think you will have to)
Actually, I was able to quote you and steal the HTML directly. Yays!
If you aren't familiar with HTML, the problem is you need to change the HTML encoding, not just add spaces. I can run some find-replace routines which can beat the HTML into a readable format, which should make manual changes easier past that.
I can also add some formatting with very little effort.
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OK, go ahead and quote me from the next couple of posts, then delete the quote brackets and you should be all good. I'll remove the following posts after you've updated your OP, to eliminate confusion.
Two notes: The images were being displayed in a floating system (note the "style="float:left;" code) rather than a simple imbeded image. Floating is cool for some things, but for simply displaying an image it casues some headaches.
Secondly, I turned each Picture-based entry into a paragraph (which uses < p > brackets), meaning it will have a bit of space after it. I used < br > (line break) brackets to manually break one line. Why the F--- the new boards interperet [ENTER] as starting a new paragraph rather than a new line I have no idea but you can get around it with some effort.
Additionally, I will be uploading an excell sheet very shortly which should make everything *much* easier to keep updated in the future. I'll post some instructions when I do so.
Core Supplements
Primal Power: 4E Supplement (October 20, 2009)
Draconomicon II: Metallic Dragons (November 17, 2009)
The Plane Below: Secrets of the Elemental Chaos (December 15, 2009)
Player's Handbook Races: Dragonborn (January 19, 2010)
Underdark: A 4th Edition Supplement (January 19, 2010)
Martial Power 2: A 4th Edition Supplement (February 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook 3 (March 16, 2010)
Monster Manual 3 (April 20, 2010)
Hammerfast: A Dwarven Outpost Adventure Site (April 20, 2010)
The Plane Above: Secrets of the Astral Sea (April 20, 2010)
Player's Strategy Guide (June, 2010)
Player's Handbook Races: Tieflings (June, 2010)
Demonomicon (July, 2010)
Dungeon Master's Guide 3 (September, 2010)
Power Cards
Arcane Power - Bard Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Sorcerer Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Swordmage 1 Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Swordmage 2 Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Warlock Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Arcane Power - Wizard Power Cards (November 17, 2009)
Divine Power - Avenger Power Cards (February 16, 2010)
Divine Power - Cleric Power Cards (February 16, 2010)
Divine Power - Invoker Power Cards (February 16, 2010)
Divine Power - Paladin Power Cards (February 16, 2010)
Core Modules
Revenge of the Giants; "Super" Adventure (September 15, 2009)
Prince of Undeath: E3 Adventure (October 20, 2009)
Reavers of Harkenwold: Adventure HS1 for 4th Edition D&D (February 16, 2010)
Tomb of Horrors; "Super" Adventure July, 2010)
Forgotten Realms
*** None at this time ***
Eberron
*** None at this time ***
Dark Sun
Dark Sun Campaign Guide (2010)
Dark Sun Player's Guide?
Misc
Sinister Woods; DU5 Dungeon Tiles (October 20, 2009)
Player's Handbook Races: Dragonborn: A 4th Edition Supplement (January 19, 2010)
Three-Dragon Ante: The Emperor's Gambit: A D&D Game (February 16, 2010)
D&D Heroscape (February 16, 2010)
Harrowing Halls; (DU6?) 3-D Dungeon Tiles (March 16, 2010)
Dungeon Magazine Annual Vol. 1 (May 18, 2010)
Dungeon Tile Master Set (June, 2010)
Minitures
Monster Manual: Savage Encounters - Booster Pack (November 17, 2009)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Arcane Heroes 4 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Arcane Heroes 5 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Divine Heroes 4 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Martial Heroes 5 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Primal Heroes 3 (Feb 16, 2010)
Player's Handbook Heroes: Series 3 - Primal Heroes 4 (Feb 16, 2010)
Monster Manual: Streets of Shadow - Booster Pack (April 20, 2010)
oops
I wanted to throw out a special thanks to DragonsWrath for saving my bacon with the HTML.
I really have no idea about coding in the least, but I will do my best in the future.
Heh, no problem. I'm a technodweeb, so i do stuff like this all the time.
Also, I've uploaded the excel sheet to a download site (mediafire)
www.mediafire.com/.../Product Release Schedule Template.xls
Instructions & notes:
Use the HEADDER Column to disignate something as a headder (using Y for yes). Headders will show up in bold and large font in the forums
To fetch the HTML, simply select the column with the results (Column I) and copy (Ctrl + C)
Next, go edit the post, choose the "Modify HTML" button, and replace everything with the new code (Paste with Ctrl + V)
Make sure to remove the extra paragraph lines at the end!
Moving cells will move the location refferences to those cells.
Which is bad.
To move things, you must copy and paste the cells to a new location.
For example, to add some entries under the Dark Sun headder, select all the user-entered cells below that
and copy. Move down a couple of cells and paste
Heh, no problem. I'm a technodweeb, so i do stuff like this all the time.
Also, I've uploaded the excel sheet to a download site (mediafire)
www.mediafire.com/.../Product Release Schedule Template.xls
Instructions & notes:
Use the HEADDER Column to disignate something as a headder (using Y for yes). Headders will show up in bold and large font in the forums
To fetch the HTML, simply select the column with the results (Column I) and copy (Ctrl + C)
Next, go edit the post, choose the "Modify HTML" button, and replace everything with the new code (Paste with Ctrl + V)
Make sure to remove the extra paragraph lines at the end!
Moving cells will move the location refferences to those cells.
Which is bad.
To move things, you must copy and paste the cells to a new location.
For example, to add some entries under the Dark Sun headder, select all the user-entered cells below that
and copy. Move down a couple of cells and paste
I think your MediaFire link is FUBARed
***UPDATED***
Added new images of MM3, Dungeon Annual, Tieflings and Player's Guide.
removed released content
Updated the "Reavers of Harkenwold" to its new name, release date, and cover image "The Slaying Stone"
Thanks for updating the thread. I really, really missed it. 
Lots of updated goodness: Dark Sun goodies, New adventures, another "adventure site", updated new release dates where I found them. Enjoy!
Castle Ravenloft a D&D boardgame august 2010 link
Psionic Power august 2010 link
there is also a few tiles and adventures....
***UPDATED***
Updated the "Reavers of Harkenwold" to its new name, release date, and cover image "The Slaying Stone"
What happened to it?
Why did they changed it's name and release date?
Will it still be located on Harkenwold?
***UPDATED***
Updated the "Reavers of Harkenwold" to its new name, release date, and cover image "The Slaying Stone"
What happened to it?
Why did they changed it's name and release date?
Will it still be located on Harkenwold?
Looks like they just wanted to centre the name of the adventure after the pivotal artefact, rather than the place and people.
No Dungeon Master Guide 3?
Read the first page?
The DMGs come out in the Fall. What's more, they've said it's coming in September.
What I'm wondering is, based on that previews that mentioned the DMG3, they said that MM3 is coming in April. But we have it said for June. Which is the correct description?
In any event, what is with all the die-cut tokens? Why stop with all of the mini's in the Game Day Kits? and now in all the starter sets and the such? Even in 3/3.5E the starter kits came with minis! Well, at least they are upping it to six (aside from the original 8) but at the same price and even THAT looks like the format is changing yet again after 3 sets.
And they are thinking about bringing back Gamma World? I don't remember it being all that popular when I was a kid when it first came out. Which is another thing...I understand what they are trying to do to be broad and not so predictable with new campaigns and all but Dark Sun didn't seem that big of a success either (though I enjoyed it) for 2E. However, they have had a Dragonlance setting for every edition (1E,2E, 3/3.5E) except this one and form what I recall THAT was and always has been very popular (almost as popular as FR - why not use what works if you want to get people to convert or come back to DnD? Now, I am a traditionalist and have always used Greyhawk as my settings, but I was really hoping that they brought back DL.
OK enough of my ranting. tell me your opinnions.
I just saw the the new list posted on the Product Catalog list for the upcoming DnD items. I always enjoy looking forward to the new products, it gets me all warm and fuzzy on the inside. However, this time looking at what's in-store for the second half of 2010 starting in Aug makes me a little unsettled. I'll tel you why: I have been playing DnD for almost all my life (and I'm 39), and I LOVE 4E!!! I can say that w/o a doubt. But as expected, in Aug it looks like the beginning of 4.5E (???) I mean a look - new starter set, player essentials, a DM Kit (which I thought was pretty cool and about due time - however this too looks like for beginner DM's), the Dungeons tiles are changing, a monster vault, etc. *SIGH* which leads me to believe we are right around the corner for 5E *another big sigh*.
In any event, what is with all the die-cut tokens? Why stop with all of the mini's in the Game Day Kits? and now in all the starter sets and the such? Even in 3/3.5E the starter kits came with minis! Well, at least they are upping it to six (aside from the original 8) but at the same price and even THAT looks like the format is changing yet again after 3 sets.
And they are thinking about bringing back Gamma World? I don't remember it being all that popular when I was a kid when it first came out. Which is another thing...I understand what they are trying to do to be broad and not so predictable with new campaigns and all but Dark Sun didn't seem that big of a success either (though I enjoyed it) for 2E. However, they have had a Dragonlance setting for every edition (1E,2E, 3/3.5E) except this one and form what I recall THAT was and always has been very popular (almost as popular as FR - why not use what works if you want to get people to convert or come back to DnD? Now, I am a traditionalist and have always used Greyhawk as my settings, but I was really hoping that they brought back DL.
OK enough of my ranting. tell me your opinnions.
Read WotC's DnD twitter covering D&D Experience. Gamma World is being covered in a 160 page book; it's not a campaign setting so as a rule set that derives itself from 4e D&D. So it's more like Gamma World updated to use the system of 4e D&D than a part of D&D itself. That said, it'll have releases and apparently be part of the D&D family rather than other WotC families of products.
Dragonlance and Greyhawk are popular, but are traditionalist settings, so WotC may come back to them in the future, but for now, they're trying to expand out in new and interesting ways. Introducing Gamma World is a great way of doing this, and I'm suddenly getting all sorts of fun ideas of mixing and matching elements from Dark Sun, Gamma World and Eberron to make some sort of magico-sci-fi setting. The release of Psionics the same year is a definite boon. I think I might finally be able to run 4e rules for my sci-fi setting that I've been developed without too much stretch and refluff.
Read WotC's DnD twitter covering D&D Experience. Gamma World is being covered in a 160 page book; it's not a campaign setting so as a rule set that derives itself from 4e D&D. So it's more like Gamma World updated to use the system of 4e D&D than a part of D&D itself. That said, it'll have releases and apparently be part of the D&D family rather than other WotC families of products.
Dragonlance and Greyhawk are popular, but are traditionalist settings, so WotC may come back to them in the future, but for now, they're trying to expand out in new and interesting ways. Introducing Gamma World is a great way of doing this, and I'm suddenly getting all sorts of fun ideas of mixing and matching elements from Dark Sun, Gamma World and Eberronto make some sort of magico-sci-fi setting. The release of Psionics the same year is a definite boon. I think I might finally be able to run 4e rules for my sci-fi setting that I've been developed without too much stretch and refluff.
Well, I am hopeful for them at least coming back to using Dragon lance - my feeling is that it will be the last campaign setting before they go to 5E. On a side note: I really hope they don't go to a 5E that they stay with the current way of playing and make some adjustments here and there leaving the core mechanic the way it is. I mean after all the time and energy being spent in the character builder, Adventure Tools with all the things they plan on adding to it that it is like"OK guys enough is enough let's just continue to leave well enough alone". -Here's to hoping *raises a mug of ale and chugs*.
*burp*
In regards to the other things you mentioned: I understand and agree to the the "broaden-their-horizons" idea which what D&D is all about. However, instead of going askew with Gamma World, they should have taken that idea and expanded on Spelljamming. I loved that whole concept; it was one of the best ideas they have ever had for any edition and it was my favorite thing about 2E. My campaign plans on having them travel to different realms as well and getting there and expanding on the Spelljamming and cruising thru the Phlogiston adapting and converting some of the SJ rules for adventures battles and skill challenges, will hopefully make it interesting and keep them on their toes.
But I digress, it just seems that they are veering too far off course from what they originally had concieved for 4E; but I hope I am pleasently incorrect.
In regards to the other things you mentioned: I understand and agree to the the "broaden-their-horizons" idea which what D&D is all about. However, instead of going askew with Gamma World, they should have taken that idea and expanded on Spelljamming. I loved that whole concept; it was one of the best ideas they have ever had for any edition and it was my favorite thing about 2E. My campaign plans on having them travel to different realms as well and getting there and expanding on the Spelljamming and cruising thru the Phlogiston adapting and converting some of the SJ rules for adventures battles and skill challenges, will hopefully make it interesting and keep them on their toes.
But I digress, it just seems that they are veering too far off course from what they originally had concieved for 4E; but I hope I am pleasently incorrect.
That admiral outfit the Bone Devil was wearing in the preview artwork for The Plane Above seems to emphasise that we'll see more of Spelljamming in that book. Spelljammer seems to be something they're wrapping into the core modules.
Are you two aware this is basically a dead topic? If you guys want to discuss this stuff you should probably start a new topic for it rather than hijacking a topic meant solely for posting release dates which isn't being updated anymore.
Sorry Ranadiel. I was hoping this would still be updating, but alas, I look back at the first page and they're still stuck in November…
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.Are you two aware this is basically a dead topic? If you guys want to discuss this stuff you should probably start a new topic for it rather than hijacking a topic meant solely for posting release dates which isn't being updated anymore.
I'm sorry, I had no idea that you were part of the Blog Police Task Force on the lookout for those who stray off topic. The fact is that it was slightly resurrected by my rant that evolved into something else. And even if it was a dead topic, WHO CARES!? Why would it bother you so much for two people having a freindly conversation about future releases as in relation to the past releases? If you don't like it and have nothing constructive to say, then don't put your two cents in stating that it's a 'dead topic'? Why would you say that, I didn't see anyone complaining (other than you). What harm is there in having this discussion here on this thread. What would have been better for you to say is: "Hey guys I think this this and this about this topic. Did you know there was a thread dedicated to this very thing? You guys could probably get more interaction with others and more input."
The fact is that even if there isn't another thread on this subject ( that just happened), again I say: "WHO CARES"? This why I don't blog too much and waste my time, b/c there is always someone who has no business saying anything. This conversation just came about, it wasn't done on purpose to subvert the DnD Blog Threads...jeeeeez. I understand that there are threads for reasons but if it evolves into something more from what it started, I don't think there is any rule that states we have to start or join another thread. NO BIG DEAL!
That admiral outfit the Bone Devil was wearing in the preview artwork for The Plane Above seems to emphasise that we'll see more of Spelljamming in that book. Spelljammer seems to be something they're wrapping into the core modules.
Very observant of you. I never noticed that. I'll be on the look out for more info. Thanks.
I'm sorry, I had no idea that you were part of the Blog Police Task Force on the lookout for those who stray off topic. The fact is that it was slightly resurrected by my rant that evolved into something else. And even if it was a dead topic, WHO CARES!? Why would it bother you so much for two people having a freindly conversation about future releases as in relation to the past releases? If you don't like it and have nothing constructive to say, then don't put your two cents in stating that it's a 'dead topic'? Why would you say that, I didn't see anyone complaining (other than you). What harm is there in having this discussion here on this thread. What would have been better for you to say is: "Hey guys I think this this and this about this topic. Did you know there was a thread dedicated to this very thing? You guys could probably get more interaction with others and more input."
The fact is that even if there isn't another thread on this subject ( that just happened), again I say: "WHO CARES"? This why I don't blog too much and waste my time, b/c there is always someone who has no business saying anything. This conversation just came about, it wasn't done on purpose to subvert the DnD Blog Threads...jeeeeez. I understand that there are threads for reasons but if it evolves into something more from what it started, I don't think there is any rule that states we have to start or join another thread. NO BIG DEAL!
*sigh* I knew tis was going to happen. My point was supposed to be that by posting in this thread is creating the illusion that this thread is still serving its point(keeping a list of updated release dates in the first posts) by giving it activity. If you want to keep posting here then fine, w/e, I have no way to stop you and really don't have the energy(or desire) to constantly retort someone on something as minor as this. I pointed out what I wanted to point out and Marandahir at least got what I meant.
P.S. This is a message board not a blog.
What harm is there in having this discussion here on this thread.
Every time you post, Alan Alda kills a kitten.
Every time you post, Alan Alda kills a kitten.
I'm ok with that.
I am officially offering, with some forum master help, to transfer this thread to someone else's care. Anyone interested?
P.S. This is a message board not a blog.
Whatever, blog/forum/
message board - 
Besides, if you knew this was going to happen then, it was probably a signal for you NOT to say anything in the first place, don't-ya think?
Well, if no-one else wants to do this, I guess I will. I can't promise fancy graphics, just a list of names of products and links in a readable format. If no-one objects, I'll get started tonight.
Please do. Contrary to EnigmaShock I am of the opinion that this thread still has a purpose to serve: Discussion of upcoming materials in a slightly more superficial way than that an individual thread per item would gain. I for one am wondering now whether the upcoming Monster Vault contain solely already-published material, all new material, or a mix of those. I didn't manage to find an appropriate thread as of yet to ask this question.
You efforts will be much appreciated.