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upcomming power sources rant

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
iam_bkee
Aug 01, 2008 11:23:06 I am quite dissapointed that we get more martial and arcane, before we get new: elemental, ki, primal, psionic, and shadow.
#2
Samursus
Aug 01, 2008 11:31:00 Primal will be included in the PHB2
#3
Steely_Dan
Aug 01, 2008 11:37:41 We are not getting any new Martial classes, they are done for now, in the PHB II we will have new Arcane (bard and sorcerer), Divine (I'm thinking/hoping invoker and theurge) and Primal (I'm thinking/hoping barbarian, druid, shaman and witch).
#4
wotc_logan
Aug 01, 2008 11:46:36 Keep in mind that Martial Power and Arcane Power contain more options for existing classes, not new classes.
#5
Belorin
Aug 01, 2008 14:09:39 Thanks for stopping by Logan!
While you're here maybe you could clear up something, it looks like the Artificer will be an arcane class in the EberronPG, will it get coverage in the Arcane Powers book? The Arcane Powers comes out before the EPG.

Bel
#6
wizardmon
Aug 01, 2008 14:20:05 I agree with the OP. But I have to say, it would not be so bad if ALL the remaining arcane classes were put into the PHB2 (ie, Swordmage and Artificer).
#7
WhiteHarness
Aug 01, 2008 15:33:12
I am quite dissapointed that we get more martial and arcane, before we get new: elemental, ki, primal, psionic, and shadow.

I'm not.

The Martial, Divine, and Arcane Power Sources are compelling and fascinating; the others sound dull and too weird to be much fun. Give me more of what I like, not wacked-out craziness.
#8
doctorhook
Aug 01, 2008 17:41:56
I agree with the OP. But I have to say, it would not be so bad if ALL the remaining arcane classes were put into the PHB2 (ie, Swordmage and Artificer).

No, I don't wanna see reprints. I just like support for the Artificer.[/same dying horse in every thread]
#9
trobon
Aug 02, 2008 0:27:17 If they were to throw out every power source the have planed right away then they will have a lot less to publish in upcoming years. Personally, it seems like they have a good plan this time and I would like them to stick to it so we don't get crappy books like Magic of Incarnum that never get any support.
#10
hellmute
Aug 02, 2008 1:43:59
Keep in mind that Martial Power and Arcane Power contain more options for existing classes, not new classes.

How long then before Divine gets upgrades and the cleric and paladins have to wait for those ability related powers?

Will each PHB have upgrade books to extend the power sources for each included power source prior to the next PHB is released?
#11
Titanium_Dragon
Aug 02, 2008 1:45:47
If they were to throw out every power source the have planed right away then they will have a lot less to publish in upcoming years. Personally, it seems like they have a good plan this time and I would like them to stick to it so we don't get crappy books like Magic of Incarnum that never get any support.

Indeed.

How long then before Divine gets upgrades and the cleric and paladins have to wait for those ability related powers?

Well, given the schedule, I'm guessing Divine Power will be released in Fall '09, and Primal Power in Spring '10.

Indeed, this works out pretty well with their 4/2/2 class distribution. Release 4 classes of one power source in one book, and two of two others; then in the next book release 2 of those same and then 4 classes of another new power source.

So:

PHB: 4 Martial/2 Divine/2 Arcane
Martial Power fall 08
PHB 2: 2 Divine/2 Arcane/4 Primal
Arcane Power spring 09
Divine Power fall 09
PHB 3: 4 new1/2 new2/2 new3
Primal Power spring 10
New1 Power fall 10
PHB 4: 2 new2/2 new3/4 new4
New2 Power spring 11
New3 Power fall 11
PHB 5: 4/2/2
New 4 Power spring 12
Ect.

This also allows them to release all 8 new power sources, complete with books, by spring 2012 with a new X Power book coming out every six months.
#12
evilref
Aug 02, 2008 18:40:47
Thanks for stopping by Logan!
While you're here maybe you could clear up something, it looks like the Artificer will be an arcane class in the EberronPG, will it get coverage in the Arcane Powers book? The Arcane Powers comes out before the EPG.

Bel

Not Logan but he answered this question on the enworld forums the other day: Artificer will not be in Arcane Power as it's coming out before the Eberron book and won't be 'finished' (by which I assume final playtest outcome decisions) by then.
#13
Belorin
Aug 02, 2008 20:13:58 I most have missed that, thanks Evilref.

Bel
#14
Xeviat-DM
Aug 03, 2008 16:24:03 And there's no need to plan anything after 2012 anyway. ;)

In all seriousness, Martial Power is coming out this year since all the martial classes are done. Arcane and Divine are both being finished in PHB2, and Arcane Power gets its book first because people like arcane classes more than divine (just going off which classes get chosen in my circle).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 iam_bkee Aug 01, 2008 11:23:06	I am quite dissapointed that we get more martial and arcane, before we get new: elemental, ki, primal, psionic, and shadow.
#2 Samursus Aug 01, 2008 11:31:00	Primal will be included in the PHB2
#3 Steely_Dan Aug 01, 2008 11:37:41	We are not getting any new Martial classes, they are done for now, in the PHB II we will have new Arcane (bard and sorcerer), Divine (I'm thinking/hoping invoker and theurge) and Primal (I'm thinking/hoping barbarian, druid, shaman and witch).
#4 wotc_logan Aug 01, 2008 11:46:36	Keep in mind that Martial Power and Arcane Power contain more options for existing classes, not new classes.
#5 Belorin Aug 01, 2008 14:09:39	Thanks for stopping by Logan! While you're here maybe you could clear up something, it looks like the Artificer will be an arcane class in the EberronPG, will it get coverage in the Arcane Powers book? The Arcane Powers comes out before the EPG. Bel
#6 wizardmon Aug 01, 2008 14:20:05	I agree with the OP. But I have to say, it would not be so bad if ALL the remaining arcane classes were put into the PHB2 (ie, Swordmage and Artificer).
#7 WhiteHarness Aug 01, 2008 15:33:12	I am quite dissapointed that we get more martial and arcane, before we get new: elemental, ki, primal, psionic, and shadow. I'm not. The Martial, Divine, and Arcane Power Sources are compelling and fascinating; the others sound dull and too weird to be much fun. Give me more of what I like, not wacked-out craziness.
#8 doctorhook Aug 01, 2008 17:41:56	I agree with the OP. But I have to say, it would not be so bad if ALL the remaining arcane classes were put into the PHB2 (ie, Swordmage and Artificer). No, I don't wanna see reprints. I just like support for the Artificer.[/same dying horse in every thread]
#9 trobon Aug 02, 2008 0:27:17	If they were to throw out every power source the have planed right away then they will have a lot less to publish in upcoming years. Personally, it seems like they have a good plan this time and I would like them to stick to it so we don't get crappy books like Magic of Incarnum that never get any support.
#10 hellmute Aug 02, 2008 1:43:59	Keep in mind that Martial Power and Arcane Power contain more options for existing classes, not new classes. How long then before Divine gets upgrades and the cleric and paladins have to wait for those ability related powers? Will each PHB have upgrade books to extend the power sources for each included power source prior to the next PHB is released?
#11 Titanium_Dragon Aug 02, 2008 1:45:47	If they were to throw out every power source the have planed right away then they will have a lot less to publish in upcoming years. Personally, it seems like they have a good plan this time and I would like them to stick to it so we don't get crappy books like Magic of Incarnum that never get any support. Indeed. How long then before Divine gets upgrades and the cleric and paladins have to wait for those ability related powers? Well, given the schedule, I'm guessing Divine Power will be released in Fall '09, and Primal Power in Spring '10. Indeed, this works out pretty well with their 4/2/2 class distribution. Release 4 classes of one power source in one book, and two of two others; then in the next book release 2 of those same and then 4 classes of another new power source. So: PHB: 4 Martial/2 Divine/2 Arcane Martial Power fall 08 PHB 2: 2 Divine/2 Arcane/4 Primal Arcane Power spring 09 Divine Power fall 09 PHB 3: 4 new1/2 new2/2 new3 Primal Power spring 10 New1 Power fall 10 PHB 4: 2 new2/2 new3/4 new4 New2 Power spring 11 New3 Power fall 11 PHB 5: 4/2/2 New 4 Power spring 12 Ect. This also allows them to release all 8 new power sources, complete with books, by spring 2012 with a new X Power book coming out every six months.
#12 evilref Aug 02, 2008 18:40:47	Thanks for stopping by Logan! While you're here maybe you could clear up something, it looks like the Artificer will be an arcane class in the EberronPG, will it get coverage in the Arcane Powers book? The Arcane Powers comes out before the EPG. Bel Not Logan but he answered this question on the enworld forums the other day: Artificer will not be in Arcane Power as it's coming out before the Eberron book and won't be 'finished' (by which I assume final playtest outcome decisions) by then.
#13 Belorin Aug 02, 2008 20:13:58	I most have missed that, thanks Evilref. Bel
#14 Xeviat-DM Aug 03, 2008 16:24:03	And there's no need to plan anything after 2012 anyway. ;) In all seriousness, Martial Power is coming out this year since all the martial classes are done. Arcane and Divine are both being finished in PHB2, and Arcane Power gets its book first because people like arcane classes more than divine (just going off which classes get chosen in my circle).