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#1 ZanderKreegan Nov 11, 2009 8:28:25	What do you think the ability score will be? Will there be support for current artificers? Any new class features? Discuss and speculate here.
#2 Janx_14 Nov 11, 2009 8:44:52	I'm guessing its going to be more of a melee artificer, since building summons is something the tinkerer already does. Beyond that i'm not quite sure. I'm guessing either Strength or Con. I'm sure the article will mostly support only the new build, as article size is more limited these days, though Artificers have no clear spec definining ability, so the other builds are likely free to choose these powers, especially if the secondary state is one of the existing ones.   The current artificer doesn't change any class feature for its two builds, so i expect it to just be a power set like the current ones are.
#3 ZanderKreegan Nov 11, 2009 8:50:35	I'm guessing its going to be more of a melee artificer, since building summons is something the tinkerer already does. Beyond that i'm not quite sure. I'm guessing either Strength or Con. I'm sure the article will mostly support only the new build, as article size is more limited these days, though Artificers have no clear spec definining ability, so the other builds are likely free to choose these powers, especially if the secondary state is one of the existing ones.   The current artificer doesn't change any class feature for its two builds, so i expect it to just be a power set like the current ones are. The main reason I asked about the class feature is that it wouldn't be the first time WotC developed "new class features" where they didn't used to be; e.g., Healer's Mercy for Turn Undead, and Ardent Vow and Virtue's Touch for Lay on Hands.
#4 thescalesoffate Nov 12, 2009 16:35:10	I'm kinda hoping the secondary is Strength.  I like seeing classes with a range of secondaries to choose from.  =D
#5 Janx_14 Nov 12, 2009 19:22:24	Yeah i'm thinking strength too, as right now the artificer is mostly ranged/implement oriented. I guess its because they have very little insentive to go melee, when they can stay in the back and do just as well with their current powers.
#6 celticmutt Nov 14, 2009 17:43:04	It's actually a ranged focused Wis build with a new healing infusion that you permanently replace one of the two others with if you choose it, a lot of powers focused on buffing an ally while damaging and/or debuffing an enemy, some feats, and 2 PPs.  There's some pretty cool Daily's that effectively turn one of your allies into a weapon you can use - they get buffed, and when within range of you, you get a special attack that originates in their square.
#7 jedi123 Nov 14, 2009 18:24:35	It's actually a ranged focused Wis build with a new healing infusion that you permanently replace one of the two others with if you choose it, a lot of powers focused on buffing an ally while damaging and/or debuffing an enemy, some feats, and 2 PPs.  There's some pretty cool Daily's that effectively turn one of your allies into a weapon you can use - they get buffed, and when within range of you, you get a special attack that originates in their square. where are you getting this or did you make it up, or did I miss the release?
#8 ranadiel Nov 14, 2009 19:08:40	where are you getting this or did you make it up, or did I miss the release? WotC tends to upload the Monday releases early without putting up a link on the main page. If you know their naming conventions for pdfs it is easy to pull them p a few days early. And here is a link since I know someone will ask for it if I don't bother posting it now. Oh and you have to have a D&Di subscription to see it of course.
#9 Marandahir Nov 14, 2009 20:48:22	Thanks Ranadiel.  You always get the links early for moi.
#10 thescalesoffate Nov 15, 2009 1:00:19	Mmm.  Rolling up a Deva W(t)F Artificer as we speak.  XD
#11 jedi123 Nov 15, 2009 8:39:27	where are you getting this or did you make it up, or did I miss the release? WotC tends to upload the Monday releases early without putting up a link on the main page. If you know their naming conventions for pdfs it is easy to pull them p a few days early. And here is a link since I know someone will ask for it if I don't bother posting it now. Oh and you have to have a D&Di subscription to see it of course. Awesome thanks.