What if the Avenger is a Defender?

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#1

brotherjgizmo

Jan 13, 2009 12:40:43
Although i strongly believe the Avenger to be a Striker; just for fun how do you think it will look if it were a defender (which is still a possibility)
#2

doctorhook

Jan 13, 2009 14:40:03
Although i strongly believe the Avenger to be a Striker; just for fun how do you think it will look if it were a defender (which is still a possibility)

Hard to say. To be honest, I'm not even sure what it will look like as a Striker. :P

I guess I'm sorta hoping for a ranged-weapon-based Divine class. Cleric doesn't have such a build (although it probably could), but I'm not sure either Paladin or Invoker are suited to that, thanks to their roles. Thus, I'm hoping that the Avenger has a ranged weapon build, in whatever role it ends up (which, like you said, will probably be Striker).
#3

anubis_reynard

Jan 13, 2009 14:45:36
Paladin twisted Divine power to a defender class power so subtle, most people seem to think it's a leader power- the ability to retroactivly have tanked attacks that have already gone through.

Perhaps the Avenger will have access to Harm spells?
#4

renchard

Jan 14, 2009 8:15:09
Although i strongly believe the Avenger to be a Striker; just for fun how do you think it will look if it were a defender (which is still a possibility)

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Avenger as a second Divine Leader. In the Van Helsing "This is what we must do to defeat Dracula", sage advice tactician sort of way.
#5

Steely_Dan

Jan 14, 2009 9:34:19
Although i strongly believe the Avenger to be a Striker; just for fun how do you think it will look if it were a defender (which is still a possibility)

It is; I thought they confirmed a Divine Striker?
#6

rikiji

Jan 14, 2009 10:09:13
It is; I thought they confirmed a Divine Striker?

While highly probable - I don't believe it's been confirmed officially. That said, I do believe there was mention of at least two striker classes in PH2, and so far we've seen all the new classes except Avenger, Shaman and Sorcerer. Shaman is a confirmed leader and Sorcerer was supposed to be a controller (although that may be in contention now) so by process of elimination, the Avenger is probably a striker.
#7

Steely_Dan

Jan 14, 2009 10:15:27
so by process of elimination, the Avenger is probably a striker.

I hope so; we already have a Divine Defender with an avenging build.
#8

batshido

Jan 14, 2009 10:26:33
It is; I thought they confirmed a Divine Striker?

You think they named it after us, Dan?
#9

Steely_Dan

Jan 14, 2009 10:30:28
You think they named it after us, Dan?

Maybe, I would like to think we were that influential in the Edition Dawn War!
#10

batshido

Jan 14, 2009 10:32:04
Maybe, I would like to think we were that influential in the Edition Dawn War!

How awesome would it be to have powers named after us?

Shining Blade of the Bat
#11

Steely_Dan

Jan 14, 2009 10:34:11
How awesome would it be to have powers named after us?

Shining Blade of the Bat

Nice.

Steely Strike of the Dan!
#12

Cpt_Micha

Jan 14, 2009 10:44:37
Micha's Righteous Fury

Ps it's a Divine Striker.

We already have a Divine Defender, ontop of that it already has the "Avenging Build"
#13

batshido

Jan 14, 2009 10:57:21
Micha's Righteous Fury

Ps it's a Divine Striker.

We already have a Divine Defender, ontop of that it already has the "Avenging Build"

Dammit. Righteous Fury of the Bat sounds so much better than mine.

Maybe Bat's Smoldering Rage? It'd be some sort of Utility power.
#14

doctorhook

Jan 14, 2009 16:23:47
You think they named it after us, Dan?

I've been saying that since the beginning: the "Avenger" class is a veiled shout-out to all the brave freedom-fighters on these boards combating the relentless intellectual tyranny of grognardism.

Alternatively, KoboldAvenger thinks the class is named after him.
#15

ranadiel

Jan 14, 2009 20:22:32
I've been saying that since the beginning: the "Avenger" class is a veiled shout-out to all the brave freedom-fighters on these boards combating the relentless intellectual tyranny of grognardism.

Alternatively, KoboldAvenger thinks the class is named after him.

Actually we have the class name wrong. It is actually A Venger, and is named after this guy:

IMAGE(http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1238688/article_images/venger.jpg)

:P
#16

Kobold_Avenger

Jan 14, 2009 20:49:47
I've been saying that since the beginning: the "Avenger" class is a veiled shout-out to all the brave freedom-fighters on these boards combating the relentless intellectual tyranny of grognardism.

Alternatively, KoboldAvenger thinks the class is named after him.

Me? or the one without a '_'?
#17

doctorhook

Jan 15, 2009 14:29:35
Me? or the one without a '_'?

Possibly you? You're the first one to show up here, so let's assume I did mean you.

How does it feel to feel that a class was named after you? ;) :P

EDIT: ...So wait, there's two of you? Damn.
#18

Cpt_Micha

Jan 15, 2009 14:42:08
Dammit. Righteous Fury of the Bat sounds so much better than mine.

Maybe Bat's Smoldering Rage? It'd be some sort of Utility power.

That's got a ring to it.
#19

Kobold_Avenger

Jan 15, 2009 16:32:50
Yes, there is Kobold_Avenger and KoboldAvenger. I was first I think, he actually qouted my sig once I think.

Pretty cool actually.
#20

SongSooGumbup

Jan 15, 2009 18:42:31
hmm . . . I don't know why but the title "Avenger" makes me think of the witch hunter class of a popular MMORPG. WotC can do whatever they want to do with their game, but an avenger seems like someone who considers him/herself the judge, jury, and executioner. I suppose a righteous executioner could be a defender, but when you mix all three . . . I just see someone who suddenly appears and says "You have been judged for your crimes and your punishment will be swift." This just seems more in line with the striker class. It doesn't have to be limited to good characters either. I just finished "The Dark Elf Trilogy" and half the priestesses of Lolth could fit the above description. I've never played a Drow character before, but if I had to emulate the book, I think Briza would be a fun character to roleplay.