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| #1foulspawnMar 23, 2010 16:28:51 | In the 80's the D&D cartoon was pretty much the most rockin' thing on Saturday morning. Looking back at how tame it was, it's amazing how much it riled certain groups for it's "violent" content. A new cartoon series, with current day cgi animation, bringing one of the official settings to life, could blow the doors off t.v. Particularly if it was on Adult Swim. And how could a company not pursue marketing that directly generates revenue on two fronts? So what's the deal? Why isn't this in the works? And what would you want to see on a show like this? |
| #2celticmuttMar 23, 2010 16:30:20 | Well, there was that Dragonlance animated movie. I get the feeling it didn't do too well though. Though I have to agree, with Hasbro's money they should be able to get some studio to do a show. |
| #3foulspawnMar 23, 2010 16:34:27 | That Dragonlance animated movie was an embarrassment to everyone involved with it I hear. But that was also a one shot deal, and an adaptation. I'm talking original weekly programming. It always ticked me off that Hank never got to bust a magic arrow through a monsters skull, or that Eric never had a sword. Nowadays, you could get away with it and actually do a show with some drama and tension to boot. I want monsters that act like they should, complete with all their inter-societal relationships and machinations. I want items that accurately reflect they way they operate withing the rules. No goofy magic hats. Situational humor, not cutesy comic relief sidekicks. |
| #4thaxMar 23, 2010 18:02:44 | The main reason has nothing to do with Wizards or licensing. The Government pass a law that required "educational" programing to be included with Saturday programming. Most of the networks abandoned Saturday Morning Cartoons completely, or has an hour or so block like Disney on ABC that has a bit of the Dora thing (talking to the camera, pausing for an answer, yay, we did it moments) going on. Most of the "real" cartoons are either Japan imports (Pokemon, Power Rangers) or new versions of old stuff (TMNT) and Video game rehash (Sonic, Mario Bros, Kirby). Most parents turn on the Cartoon channel, who doesn't have to abide by the stupidity of the government mandate. Edit... Oh, and afternoon cartoons gave way to Court TV and Syndicated programs. "Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!" |
| #5foulspawnMar 23, 2010 18:10:16 | Cartoon Networks The Zone or Adult Swim would probably be more a more satisfying venue than Saturday morning. |
| #6CyvarisMar 23, 2010 18:31:05 | D&D still seems to have a bit of a stigma to it. I think most parents remember the days of "D&D=Devil Worship" and would not allow kids to watch it. I could see it on adult swim, or on Cartoon Network, but called something like Adventures in the Forgotten Realms. Personally I would love to see a well produced live action series, something worth watching on TV. |
| #7foulspawnMar 23, 2010 18:41:17 | Live action, I think, would be too costly. I'd prefer a stylistic dragon animated amoungst stylized adventurers to a dragon of questionable realism with real people. An epic, season long, B storyline, played out under episode to episode A stories. Characters dying, recurring NPCs and locations. Animated series have gained so much respect in the last 30 years, D&D begs to be done with a level of maturity that wasn't feasible in the 80's. |
| #8thaxMar 23, 2010 19:16:38 | For that mature of story, it would have to be a Prime Time aired series. I doubt that this Depression can afford such new shows. |
| #9tiamatdragonwingMar 23, 2010 19:23:31 | Live action, I think, would be too costly. I'd prefer a stylistic dragon animated amoungst stylized adventurers to a dragon of questionable realism with real people. Agree totally. Half of the appeal to D&D to me anyway is the characters and their interactions, and to get that down properly a tv show is needed compared to the short time available in a movie. |
| #10araxissMar 23, 2010 19:24:51 | The main reason has nothing to do with Wizards or licensing. The Government pass a law that required "educational" programing to be included with Saturday programming. Most of the networks abandoned Saturday Morning Cartoons completely, or has an hour or so block like Disney on ABC that has a bit of the Dora thing (talking to the camera, pausing for an answer, yay, we did it moments) going on. THAT's What killed off Saturday morning cartoons? |
| #11thaxMar 23, 2010 19:48:12 | That started the slide, the cable cartoon channels was the final axe. |
| #12strand0Mar 23, 2010 21:17:27 | I think the problem is that it would all be done by committee. So, therewould have to be a strong leader. Otherwise you get Dungeons & Camels! ![]() |
| #13foulspawnMar 23, 2010 21:28:11 | Another reason there should be a new Dungeons and Dragons animated series... |
| #14undraveMar 23, 2010 23:42:41 | Well you gotta be realistic about the level of maturity you could pull off. Nothing gets on Adult Swim but anime and stupid cheaply done comedies nowadays so unless you want Jim Darkmagic to become the new face of D&D you might want to aim at CN proper... though in the current state I would actually trust NickToon or even Disney XD more than Cartoon Network (if you want an earfull about the current state of animated television in the US I heartilly recommand heading over to the ToonZone forum) but let's not think of network yet. Okay so gore, bucketful of blood and gratuitous nudity are right out, let's not consider that level there's just no market for it right now. That doesn't mean it can't have a serious tone and actual serialize storylines. I mean take a look at Canadian serie Di-gata Defender. It seems like a harmless and stupid dice throwing toy-based show but in the second season the main characters loses his friggin' arm! Gets it back...and loses it AGAIN! And the kid sister of another character is pretty much killed off! That stuff snuck right in without no one realizing it was gonna happen (its like the show hit Paragon tier in the second season :p ). Now you have to consider what kind of story you want to tell... do you want to simply tell the tale of a band of adventurers in the Points of Light 'setting'? Start with a pair and slowly grow their numbers to five or six (with wacky familiar or animal companion!!!) and send them off to learn more about the world? We could learn about Bael Turath and Arkhosian, about Nerath, about the Primordials, the gods, and the Primal Spirits, trips to the Feywild and the Shadowfell... deepend the Wilden and other new races... I wouldn't recommand going for the Forgotten Realms, too much baggage, too much backstory, not enough freedom for the writers. Eberron might fit better if you want an established setting. Another possible would be the essentially remake the original cartoon. D&D is after all about being someone else so have teens get sucked into another dimension (through something less silly than a park ride please...) could be interesting. Have the mysterious Dungeon Master give them 'power sources' so you have a Martial Archery Warlord, Divine Palladin, Psionic Monk, Primal Barbarian, Arcane Wizard and Shadow Assassin (or some other Shadow class...also leaves room for an additionnal Elemental character to join later). Add some mini-arc where they get back home only for the trouble to spill into their world, forcing them back... could work. |
| #15araxissMar 24, 2010 10:11:59 |
Why? Are you secretly Wil Wheaton? Is there soemthing you aren't telling us? |
| #16Omnirahk_half-RahkshiMar 24, 2010 12:09:03 | Another possible would be the essentially remake the original cartoon. D&D is after all about being someone else so have teens get sucked into another dimension (through something less silly than a park ride please...) could be interesting. Have the mysterious Dungeon Master give them 'power sources' so you have a Martial Archery Warlord, Divine Palladin, Psionic Monk, Primal Barbarian, Arcane Wizard and Shadow Assassin (or some other Shadow class...also leaves room for an additionnal Elemental character to join later). Add some mini-arc where they get back home only for the trouble to spill into their world, forcing them back... could work. Wow. I just realized this was the plot to Digimon. That was a great Saturday morning cartoon. Although I suppose tidal wave on dry land following blizzard in summer isn't really less silly than roller coaster. |
| #17Damon_TorMar 24, 2010 12:18:56 | I could get into an Ebberon or FR Cartoon. |
| #18ipsissimusMar 24, 2010 12:30:22 | There was at one point plans to make a live action FR series, to follow the popularity of Xenya and Hercules but it never went obiviously. There have been fantasy based shows on and off both regular tv and cable, but none have really been as popular as Herc and Xenya have...previous D&D movies were not only bad and low budget but wrong. I was talking to Diterlizzi about it and he told me he was actually originally art directing the 1st movie but after the writers told him in this scene beholders will be like watchdogs guarding the castle grounds he left the project out of integrity. beholder watchdogs? seriously...beholders! imo, Ebberron would probably be the only no strings attached license to make an animated show or live action one. We're more likely to see a more accepted fantasy based game in the form of a movie or animated something like World of Warcraft. As mentioned earlier, D&D still isn't widely accepted by the general public. If you say, I have a lvl 80 tauren druid with full pvp gear I play WoW you're less likely to be made fun of than say I have a lvl 30 epic reincarnate champeen of Io dual wielding holy avengers, I play Dungeons & Dragons. |
| #19strand0Mar 24, 2010 12:55:29 | Maybe they could start with a Gamma World cartoon and do crossovers to the different D&D worlds? |
| #20Silver_BlazeMar 24, 2010 13:56:40 | Well, there was that Dragonlance animated movie. I get the feeling it didn't do too well though. Though I have to agree, with Hasbro's money they should be able to get some studio to do a show. Actually, the DL movie exceeded both Hasbro and Paramount's expectations according to the producers, and it was actually a monetary success. Of course, that all depends on what Hasbro and Paramount deem a success. |
| #21AustinwulfMar 24, 2010 14:20:26 | the mix of animation and computer animation was clumsy. It was like they spent their entire budget on making Tika's bottom wiggle and her cans shake. |
| #22xiahouxuMar 24, 2010 16:46:27 | What would be quite nifty would be a group based out of Sigil, maybe? You could have the kind of modern-but-fantasy setting (Perhaps some kind of interplanar detectives or such?) and then hop to different worlds for arcs or episodes, perhaps? |
| #23joni-sanMar 24, 2010 17:45:33 | I'd love to see an Eberron based animated series. There is a lot of potential to be used there with little to no complications. |
| #24Alex_Mar 24, 2010 18:54:35 | The new show Adventure Time on Cartoon Network is supposed to have been inspired by the creator's more frivolous D&D adventures from what I hear. That said, a serious D&D show where a party of adventurers regularly stabs and burns living things to death will probably be hard to pull off. There's a reasont that Samurai Jack only fought tentacle aliens and robots. The Clone Wars series really pushes the envelope for PG material in animated shows, though. We've seen him slice through and stab his fair share of living targets. Then again, lightsabers tend to be a lot less messy than greatswords and the bulk of his enemies are robots. |
| #25undraveMar 24, 2010 20:03:35 | What would be quite nifty would be a group based out of Sigil, maybe? You could have the kind of modern-but-fantasy setting (Perhaps some kind of interplanar detectives or such?) and then hop to different worlds for arcs or episodes, perhaps? Coming up on CBS! CSI: Sigil followed by Law & Order: Demon Cultist Response Unit 8) |
| #26Silver_BlazeMar 24, 2010 20:15:10 | The new show Adventure Time on Cartoon Network is supposed to have been inspired by the creator's more frivolous D&D adventures from what I hear. Since Hasbro owns half of Discovery Kids, if there is a D&D cartoon ever made, that is where I would think it would show up. Now, before anyone jumps to conclusions on the Kids network, I want to say that there will be shows geared toward older children and adolescents on later in the day. |
| #27branothebladesMar 24, 2010 20:31:36 | How about a series "based on the novels of R.A. Salvatore". While set in the Forgotten Realms, it could take a more generic fantasy angle rather than a strict FR canon angle. With the popularity of Drizzt and crew it should have no problem appealing to the masses. If the D&D side of it is such a social stigma, it could just have a slide on the final credit "based on the Dungeons & Dragons roleyplaying game" blurb or something. Play up the Hasbro angle (which is firmly established with cartoon/product line synergies). Title it "The Adventures of Drizzt". They could do an adaptation similar to how The Sword of Truth novels have been done in Legends of the Seeker. (fan of the books, not crazy with all the changes of the TV show, but glad its ON TV!) It could include some humor and goofy minor characters (to appeal to younger viewers), but should retain the narrative internal struggle of Drizzt and the amazing combat and character development of the novels (to appeal to long time fans). |
| #28foulspawnMar 24, 2010 23:03:51 | And a Ravenloft Halloween special, plx. |
| #29xiahouxuMar 25, 2010 12:23:20 |
THIS. This so much... I may have to force a DM to write a campaign purely for the purpose of this... Think of Raise Dead/speak with spirits+Forensics..... Wow. (Though for the TV series? Hard-boiled Swordmage runs the corp, backed up by a Goliath Heavy (Perhaps a Stonefist monk?)... Yeeeeeah...) |
| #30undraveMar 25, 2010 16:14:26 |
Glad I could help :p |
| #31ADHadhMar 26, 2010 17:07:04 | I've just had an idea for a possible cast for an Ebberon show (a bit anime style maybe): - the main character, a resourceful female half-elf artificer (I imagine her looking like the girl on Dragon #365 cover) - Kyton, a chain lovin' battle-experienced experienced warforged, rather reserved - a very shy in her natural form changeling wizard girl - a female barbarian, either dark-skinned or asian looking (token minority character, yo), duty bound and ferocious - a male drow bow ranger, a silent guy. The changeling is scared of him. THEY FIGHT CRIME! ...or maybe not ;) If I ever get to know Ebberon better maybe I'll utilise this band for a comic. Or maybe not. |
| #32joni-sanMar 26, 2010 19:41:40 | This thread reminds me. Has anyone heard of that Magic The Gathering manga that's being made? It'd be fun if WotC made short comics for each existing setting. Maybe something in the style of Blizzards short story manga? |
| #33thaxMar 27, 2010 6:00:53 | But I like the blood-soaked, R-Rated torture porn extravanganza... |
| #34Duke5150Mar 27, 2010 8:29:32 | I'm against a tv show. I'd want it to go straight to DVD. This way, it could be more like that deadspace cartoon and since the entire season would be on DVD and released at once, I wouldn't have to suffer through god-awful commercials or waiting once a week to watch the show. |
| #35thaxMar 27, 2010 9:12:31 | The Cartoon Network can put out a good cartoon. Ren & Stimpy, for one. Right now, they are riding on the art fix from a certain group of artists, and all the newer stuff is looking the same. It is as if the toon's need to be This Way or it isn't a cartoon. It will pass. |
| #36joni-sanMar 27, 2010 10:11:08 | Avatar: The Last Airbender was mentioned. This series is a very good example of how a "Dungeons & Dragons: the Animated Series" should be done. Well written and great animation. Add in some of the liberties that SW: Clone Wars S2 has in the violence department and we've got a great start. Regarding Anime: Thus far, the best D&D animated series I've seen have been anime. The Record of Lodoss War and Slayers (& Next, Try and Revolution) are D&D the Anime, being based on the games of the writers. Lodoss War is pretty much (A)D&D the serious campaign you always wanted to run while Slayers is D&D the humour campaign. To continue on this tangent. Anime is a medium, not a genre. Dragoball Z is but one representative (albeit influential) of the Shounen genre. For a better example of Shounen, why not take the un-edited version of One Piece, a fun Pirate adventure? It conveniently avoids the pitfalls of Power-Level wankery and could very well be used as a basis for a humorous D&D campaign based on Pirates. |
| #37ADHadhMar 27, 2010 16:23:37 | I did a sketch! |
| #38undraveMar 27, 2010 16:29:28 | I did a sketch! |
| #39ADHadhMar 27, 2010 16:32:23 |
Thanks! Now let's hope someone will see potential action figure sales in it :D |
| #40zenirvanaarchonMar 27, 2010 19:11:41 | The new show Adventure Time on Cartoon Network is supposed to have been inspired by the creator's more frivolous D&D adventures from what I hear. Not to mention the episode I saw where during a battle on Geonosis a jedi general calls for flamethrowers. At which point a squad of troopers step forward and literally light several Geonosians on fire immediatly burning their wings off. The geonosians then lay on the ground burning a screaming for a few seconds before more troopers step up and blast them dead. Then there is that there are so many episodes of the Clone Wars that have such new and interesting stories that make me say that I find them better than the movies Episodes 1, 2, and 3. It would be totally possible now to have an animated D&D show that was not cheesy. I could sure look past a lack of gore and nudity as long as characters and story was true to D&D. But then again it seems WotC is stuck not being able to do anything other than make more books. |
| #41Kilsek_of_SheverashMar 27, 2010 20:24:13 | All I know is I'm so thankful a quality fantasy TV series like Legend of the Seeker exists these days. Seems like it's been forever since the genre had any quality national TV representation. It may be fantasy light or a bit "too classic" fantasy for some, but regardless - it's still swords and sorcery fantasy with great, memorable characters. Looks like Season 3 will be happening after all - hope it does! Keep watching! |
| #42foulspawnMar 27, 2010 22:54:43 | The fantasy genre will ALWAYS have appeal, and the fact is Dungeons and Dragons is a fantasy brand that SHOULD be setting the standard. From a production standpoint, every bit of market research regarding what story and character content is desirable to the gaming demographic pretty much applies to the television audience as well. |
| #43Duke5150Mar 28, 2010 2:17:47 |
Now that's a good point. I completely enjoyed what I'v seen of the Lodoss War. I wouldn't hate a D&D toon like that at all. Except for the chibi crap. |
| #44captainvegasMar 30, 2010 1:44:38 | Watch the first series of Record of Lodoss War for no Chibi, that and at least you can just chapter forward those parts in the second series. I would love to see a series written along the lines of the Justice League series, especially the first two seasons where the episodes where 2 half-hour long shown back to back. I'd also love to see a series done like the recent Marvel, DC, and Hellboy animated movies. Maybe focusing on a classic adventure instead of a classic storyline from the comics. An animated Against the Giants or an animated Palace of the Silver Princess, etc ... |
| #45Duke5150Mar 30, 2010 8:05:24 | Watch the first series of Record of Lodoss War for no Chibi, that and at least you can just chapter forward those parts in the second series. I'm with you on the justice league and unlimited series. I love um. Used to watch them all the time with my daughter. I'm not so much with you on the newer marvel "movies". I'v got hulk versus and I'm not a big fan. I don't hate them, but they just don't click for me. Now, the newer wonderwoman cartoon movie, I liked that. Hell, I'd even be happy with a animatrix/batman/halo styled cartoon movie featuring short story episodes with different art styles. Which might be a cool way to go to showcase different settings. Although eberron would have to be done in CG, and would have to include the age of demons as an intro, with a follow up in the current age featuring airships, warforged and the city of towers. |
| #46foulspawnMar 31, 2010 5:08:54 | Short, 5 minute episodes like the initial Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars series would be feasible too. A cheap efficent way to test the waters. It kind of amazes me how passive WotC and Hasbro is about promoting and advertising D&D. After all these years it's still pretty much in the cultural closet. |
| #47MyztekMar 31, 2010 13:38:01 | The reason is that they don't think they can sell it that is pretty much the only reason TV shows don't exist. There was a D&D pilot written in 2005 by RA Salvatore. The content was kept under wraps, and the thing was never filmed, but Salvatore's involvement, whether you think it wise or questionable, does whow that they did seriously consider the concept. IIIRC, the company that optioned the show went out of business. It was one of those companies that produced weekend adventure shows like Cleopatra 2525, Mutant X, etc... Regardless, IMHO, the biggest problem in making a D&D TV show is that you're going to have to toss money to WotC to use the name, but you can essentially make the same show without the name by changing a few inconsequential details. And, given the love/hate relationship of the general population with the D&D brand name, I am not sure it will draw more people. IMHO, WotC should be willing to PAY someone to use the D&D name on a TV show. The show would be incredible advertising. |
| #48ADHadhMar 31, 2010 17:11:27 |
I was under the impression that was what we were suggesting. Note that Hasbro owns WotC now and they did this sort of thing before. |
| #49ravenharmApr 01, 2010 11:31:29 | im suprised noone brought up the mini cartoons that were made by the guy who did those bitey cartoons from newgrounds. who wouldn't love the gnome "ima- MONster rawr!", or those kobolds,troll,dwarf, or a show in a SNL/ mad tv skit style where the monsters play out scenarios making light of common themes in every day games. marketing alone would be great, and they can make it in the same vain animaniacs was made the comedy subtle adult with a fake kid feel. not exactly the gritty reboot that every body has been talking about, but i doubt in this day an age we would get something sucessful like that. but the mini cartoons have been popular. anyone remember growing up in the 80s with those fantasy themed movies? most people only remember a handful and of those... most people start with legend, the dark crystal, and dragonslayer. |
| #50Kilsek_of_SheverashApr 01, 2010 14:03:03 |
Yeah, Legend was one of my first fantasy genre movies. Though I saw Excalibur first. Legend was pure fantasy, while Excalibur of course, is more historical myth. And Tom Cruise starred in Legend! Not exactly some random, forgettable actor :P Although sure, that was one of his first movies. However you categorize them, both are awesome! Wow, can you imagine a TV series today based on the Legend movie? Get Tom Cruise to make a cameo haha - how cool would that be! |
| #51ravenharmApr 01, 2010 15:07:14 | great movie! though i did see it recently and it started my movie critic/rage, such as the love scene ten minutes into the movie with a full plate armored dude ? talk about protection sheesh![]() lol but still barring that a great movie. |
| #52foulspawnApr 02, 2010 12:59:56 | 80s fantasy movies were defined by Conan the Barbarian, Beastmaster, and Sword and the Sorceror. Who doesn't know the answer to the question "What is best in life?" |
| #53greatfritoApr 02, 2010 14:09:56 | The name thing made me think - why attach the D&D name to it? There are so many other names floating around in their content piles, that I'm sure they could come up with something. Give us a Planescape. The Forgotten Realms. Eberron. Dark Sun (that could be... awkward). Or one of the dozens of other names Hasbro/WotC owns through D&D. And yeah, I've not seen too many American shows with fantastic elements that I've cared for in the last... decade or so. Then again, I don't think I've watched any anime series that I've liked that's very recent either (Stand Alone Complex was okay - but damn did they have issues with pacing). Legend of the Seeker is awesome (though my wife and I are Hercules/Xena fans, so... feel free to discount our opinions ). But I can't think of any other fantasy shows I've liked...EDIT 2: I feel like I should say, I tried to finish the DragonLance animated film, but it was just... not good. It wasn't terrible, and I couldn't put my finger on what drove me away from it without watching it again (and that's... not going to happen, willingly), but I really didn't enjoy it. Maybe it would appeal to younger audiences, but even then... gah. There are just far better shows. EDIT: I should add, I'm still of the opinion that one of the best opportunities they could possibly have on TV would be something akin to "Urban Arcana" - modern setting, with a touch of the ol' D&D. You could potentially play an Eberron setting off like that (since it blends sci-fi themes in so strongly), but for a good combination of "cheap" and "appealing", I would venture "modern fantasy" would be the best bet. |
| #54ADHadhApr 02, 2010 14:43:21 | 80s fantasy movies were defined by Conan the Barbarian, Beastmaster, and Sword and the Sorceror. Hot water, strong teeth and soft lavatory paper! |
| #55HaldrikApr 02, 2010 14:47:56 | Regarding gratuitous violence, Its possible to put a 'lampshade' over the violence, by making the violence explicitly imaginary, inside a Virtual Reality. The protagonists could be normal reallife people who hacked into a computer (via goggles, headmeshes, etcetera), in order to explore a D&D-style VR as avatars. (Isnt there an anime that already did something like this?) Maybe some obsessed scientist created this VR (or the VR is evolving into an Artificial Intelligence with a mind of its own, or both). Maybe the VR is encrypted with a secret message, such as scientific data concerning gene-splicing instructions that makes eternal youth possible, or whatever. Maybe the scientist implanted this data as 'easter eggs' in the VR, or if the VR evolved into an AI, maybe the AI stole the information from the scientist, and the protagonists are essentially recovering a data trail to reconstruct the information, information that gets mixed up with the bizaare features of the VR programming. Anyway, reallife antagonists also enter the VR under various monster avatars to thwart the protagonists. So, the D&D-style avatars can kill these monster avatars in violent death scenes, but afterward the camera switches to a scene where the defeated reallife antagonists take off their VR goggles, making it clear the violence was imaginary. Basically, the D&D-style Virtual Reality would be something like 'The Matrix', but the show would alternate between a nonlethal reallife and a lethal gamelife. As long as the violence is obviously and explicitly imaginary, the show could get away with a lot of D&Ds hack-and-slash themes. |
| #56HaldrikApr 02, 2010 15:05:26 | Greatfrito: I'm still of the opinion that one of the best opportunities they could possibly have on TV would be something akin to "Urban Arcana" - modern setting, with a touch of the ol' D&D. Haldrik: I agree with Greatfrito. I feel new shows, like Legends Of The Seeker and the new Merlin series already cover the medieval fantasy tropes. Shows with modern fantasy tropes, like Charmed and Dresden Files seem to have enjoyed more popular appeal (even movie critics who generally dont understand Sci Fi praised Dresden Files). As far as books go, modern fantasy (paranormal romance, urban fantasy, etc) is outselling traditional medieval 'high' fantasy. If the central D&D-style characters are college-age wizards, superhero types in their 20s in a modern setting, with supporting characters who are in their teens and 30s-and-up, it can appeal to the widest audience. |
| #57greatfritoApr 02, 2010 15:35:29 | If the central D&D-style characters are college-age wizards, superhero types in their 20s in a modern setting, with supporting characters who are in their teens and 30s-and-up, it can appeal to the widest audience. So kind of like Heroes, but preferably with a consistent damn plot and character development, and nowhere near Jeph Loeb, Destroyer of Plots. I could definitely see the potential in that. I mean, Buffy was a pretty decent show for most (well, parts at least) of its lifetime, and Angel was too (with fewer sections that I wound up loathing). |
| #58foulspawnApr 02, 2010 16:13:24 | I think a lot of you don't realize how ahead of the curve the original 80s D&D cartoon was. It still makes it onto a lot of top 10 lists. There was practically a furor over it at the time, and by todays standards there was nothing in it that merits any mention whatsoever. To take the same sort of approach to a new animated series at this time, to be willing to push the envelope in terms of content, while still making it accessible to kids (not toddlers) and holding onto a standard for quality...that would be a damn good piece. I'd actually like to see cameos by the original characters evolved over 30 years. Having spent their lives in that world and accepted it and see where they're at. |
| #59ravenharmApr 02, 2010 16:34:58 | 80s fantasy movies were defined by Conan the Barbarian, Beastmaster, and Sword and the Sorceror. i forgot about those, especially funny considering one of them is a fave =] |
| #60ADHadhApr 02, 2010 17:13:20 | I don't know about you, but I think animation is the way to go. I don't wanna see some woman in weird make up sprinkled with cheap SFX shouting "I'm an Eladrin! Tee-hee!". Especially if Eberron was the chosen setting. |
| #61undraveApr 02, 2010 19:27:05 | I don't know about you, but I think animation is the way to go. I don't wanna see some woman in weird make up sprinkled with cheap SFX shouting "I'm an Eladrin! Tee-hee!". Especially if Eberron was the chosen setting. Oooh... Jim Henson Company doing make up! Like on Farscape! That'd be wicked cool! Imagine the Wilden! |
| #62greatfritoApr 02, 2010 22:32:33 | I don't know about you, but I think animation is the way to go. I don't wanna see some woman in weird make up sprinkled with cheap SFX shouting "I'm an Eladrin! Tee-hee!". Especially if Eberron was the chosen setting. I try to make a point of never imagining the Wilden. ![]() |
| #63undraveApr 02, 2010 22:47:07 | I don't know about you, but I think animation is the way to go. I don't wanna see some woman in weird make up sprinkled with cheap SFX shouting "I'm an Eladrin! Tee-hee!". Especially if Eberron was the chosen setting. :p Giths, Minotaurs, Shardmind, Warforged, Goliaths with actual lithoderm... just pick something :p |
| #64ADHadhApr 03, 2010 8:00:37 |
I've never seen Farscape, but after googling for pictures I've found a convincing Changeling woman in the cast. I'm still doubtful though. But what about scenery and flying ship chases? |
| #65Kilsek_of_SheverashApr 03, 2010 10:20:24 |
I like the idea of Eberron as the next great fantasy TV series - it's the best fit by far for today's fantasy fans and both casual and fantasy or sci-fi TV-watchers. Fantasy with a cinematic and pulp flair for plenty of eye candy and pulse-pounding action. Plenty of intrigue which makes for strong characters and richer story. Plenty of more "modern/sci-fi" touches (i.e. Warforged, the Lightning Rail) that make it unique and cool, grabbing a larger audience's interest. Plus it's one of Wizard's featured, newer and "hipper" fantasy campaign settings, so I'm sure Wizards would love to promote a prominent campaign world like Eberron. And it's already the campaign setting for their successful current MMO, Dungeons & Dragons Online! Yeah... I'm sold - Eberron on TV please! |
| #66undraveApr 03, 2010 17:49:45 |
You've never seen Farscape? You poor soul! |
| #67joni-sanApr 04, 2010 5:09:45 | *D&D VR Show* Sounds a lot like the .hack series. |
| #68joni-sanApr 04, 2010 5:11:35 | I don't know about you, but I think animation is the way to go. I don't wanna see some woman in weird make up sprinkled with cheap SFX shouting "I'm an Eladrin! Tee-hee!". Especially if Eberron was the chosen setting. Yeah, with the Jim Henson Company a Live Action D&D (/Eberron) series would actually be possible. Although I wonder how Warforged would look like? I suspect they would be one of the more challenging races. Especially if we have one in the core party. Would CGI work? |
| #69xiahouxuApr 04, 2010 13:05:27 | I'd be of the opinion that an entirely CGI main character in a TV series would be a bad idea, not just for budget, but also for suspension purposes. I think it'd probably be better to make up a warforged as a very very nice puppet, and Jim Henson's creature shop could probably do a wonderful attempt at that... |
| #70ADHadhApr 04, 2010 13:56:06 |
Bearing in mind that warforged faces do not contain a lot of moving parts, that looks fairly simple to make (from a viewer's perspective). It's the Eladrin and the like I'm doubtful about, as well as acting level or scenery and fantasy action sequences. Things like this: |
| #71Sea-EnvyApr 04, 2010 18:37:23 | 80s fantasy movies were defined by Conan the Barbarian, Beastmaster, and Sword and the Sorceror. How many people have seen the Disk World live action movie? Sean Astin and Tim Curry star |
| #72thaxApr 04, 2010 19:54:23 | There is a third one being worked on, Going Postal. So, The Hogfather was first, The Coluor of Magic, then the new one coming out, Going Postal. I have the DVD of the Hogfather and The Col(u)or of Magic, but the third has not aired yet. Yeah, Cohen is funny, better in the book. |
| #73grehnheweApr 04, 2010 20:08:35 |
I enjoyed both these movies and I am looking forward to a third. I particularly liked The Hogfather, and I forsee myself watching it every year at Christmas time. |
| #74undraveApr 05, 2010 15:49:53 |
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| #75ADHadhApr 05, 2010 17:28:40 |
There are a lot of shows I haven't seen, Sanctuary is one of them. It's sci-fi, right? Somehow I feel that if anyone decided to make a D&D live action show, higher-ups would probably stick to New Zealand anyway. |
| #76undraveApr 05, 2010 19:28:02 |
Its on SyFy I think yeah... its produced (and stars) Amanda Tapping of Stargate fame. Its about a team who gather supernatural beings either for their protection or to protect the general populace from them. Its shot on ashoestring budget in Vancouver with lots of blue screen but they got some amazing backdrops. |
| #77SorovethApr 06, 2010 23:05:12 | D&D still seems to have a bit of a stigma to it. I think most parents remember the days of "D&D=Devil Worship" and would not allow kids to watch it. I could see it on adult swim, or on Cartoon Network, but called something like Adventures in the Forgotten Realms. Personally I would love to see a well produced live action series, something worth watching on TV. Most Parents now, played D&D as kids ![]() |
| #78joni-sanApr 17, 2010 13:19:00 | Looks like IDW is going to make more D&D Comics. |
| #79HaldrikApr 18, 2010 15:02:06 | Awesome news about the comics. Cant wait to read them! |
| #80Kilsek_of_SheverashApr 21, 2010 18:23:04 | Who knows, if the comics are high quality, could kick off a TV show - live action or cartoon. Worked for Spawn and his animated for-adult viewers HBO TV series. One of my all time favorite "cartoons" - simply excellent. |