Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 dudesock Jan 13, 2010 11:50:57	I don't see the option of making an Abyssal Genasi from Drag 381!
#2 melos Jan 13, 2010 12:34:45	Dragon 381 is not in the CB yet, it will be added on Jan. 19th.
#3 neosocrates Jan 15, 2010 11:53:09	I've actually made a number of abyssal genasi characters already.  Just choose Genasi for Race and it gives you 9 options now instead of 5.
#4 melos Jan 15, 2010 12:43:39	Yep, they are actually from Dragon 380, so they are already in the CB.
#5 quarindel Jan 16, 2010 7:09:15	Maybe I'm just extra dumb, but I can't seem to get the Genasi I want. I want a character with ALL of the elemental manifestations, but Extra Corrupt Manifestation doesn't show up, whether I start with an Abyssal or a regular genasi manifestation. If I take regular Extra Manifestation, I can choose either the corrupt or the standard manifestation. If I take Extra Manifestation II, then no matter which one I chose the first time, only standard manifestations are available. Also, Fast Manifestation seems to have disappeared. What's going on?
#6 quarindel Jan 18, 2010 23:37:52	Nobody else having this problem, huh?
#7 Cailte Jan 19, 2010 4:53:00	It appears they have removed the feat and simply amended Extra Manifestation to give you the same effects as Extra Corrupt Manifestation. eg: ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ====== Mara-kai, level 1 Genasi, Fighter Fighter Talents: One-handed Weapon Talent Elemental Manifestation: Watersoul Extra Manifestation: Causticsoul FINAL ABILITY SCORES Str 20, Con 13, Dex 13, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 10. STARTING ABILITY SCORES Str 18, Con 13, Dex 13, Int 8, Wis 10, Cha 10. AC: 19 Fort: 17 Reflex: 13 Will: 10 HP: 28 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 7 TRAINED SKILLS Endurance +6, Streetwise +5, Athletics +8 UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics -1, Arcana, Bluff, Diplomacy, Dungeoneering, Heal, History, Insight, Intimidate, Nature +2, Perception, Religion, Stealth -1, Thievery -1 FEATS Level 1: Extra Manifestation POWERS Fighter at-will 1: Brash Strike Fighter at-will 1: Tide of Iron Fighter encounter 1: Shield Bash Fighter daily 1: Lasting Threat ITEMS Heavy Shield, Longsword, Scale Armor ====== Copy to Clipboard and Press the Import Button on the Summary Tab ======
#8 quarindel Jan 19, 2010 5:31:49	OK, here's exactly what I did: Made a new, complete, first-level character just like yours. Everything looks good, right? Now level up. I set my XP at 6th level, and now suddenly I can only choose the 'classic' manifestations when I take the 'Extra Manifestation' feat. The others don't even show up. Nor does Fast Manifestation, even though I meet the prerequisites. It doesn't even show if I hit 'Show Illegal Elements.'
#9 mdonais Jan 19, 2010 13:43:00	We merged the extra manifestatoin and extra corrupt manifestation feats for Pre-req reasons. I suspect the printed content will be updated to match if it hasn't been yet. It seems to be working ok for me, if you have a weird bug happening at level 6 can you post the character text format and I will see if I can duplicate the bug. Thanks.
#10 quarindel Jan 19, 2010 17:57:02
#11 Undrhil Jan 21, 2010 9:39:21	This happens for me as well. The Extra Manifestation feat lets you choose a Corrupted manifestation, but the Extra Manifestation II, III and so on only let you choose the manifestations from the Forgotten Realms PG.
#12 quarindel Jan 26, 2010 21:03:01	FYI -- this no longer happens to me. I had to uninstall and re-update, but it works now. I have a pretty flaky internet connection, and I nearly always have problems updating and often have strange errors of this sort. I'd like to toss my two cents in for the ability to download a single update file, rather than having to go through the update process as it exists now. HOWEVER, I will say that it's dumb that Extra Manifestation only goes to IV when there are 9 manifestations. V-VIII should be added so that you can get them all.