In my opinion, the advertising in these magazines has never been oppressive on the level of a fashion or women’s magazine, and has been well-tailored to the interests of the magazine’s readers. There is some argument for the case that the absence of this advertising is a disadvantage to the reader, who used to be exposed to new gaming products and opportunities of which he may not have been previously aware. I also feel that there might be a fiscal advantage to the inclusion of this sort of advertising, in that it could allow Wizards to lower their subscription rates somewhat.
So that we are clear: I am not proposing that Wizards hire on Ads by Google, such that we get inundated by images of scantily clad, large-breasted anime women and poorly drawn animals in primary colors hawking Korea’s latest Web-based “free-to-play” MMOG. I am proposing that advertising space be sold to companies that produce gaming peripherals, like Chessex and Dwarven Forge, and perhaps to third-party GSL adopters. Companies that are producing things that tabletop gamers actually care about.
This seems like a win-win situation to me. I know that in recent years the world has become jaded on the topic of advertising, as it has become synonymous with Web pop-ups and spam, but I think Wizards has an opportunity to do this right and benefit the entire community, industry and consumers alike.
This seems like a win-win situation to me. I know that in recent years the world has become jaded on the topic of advertising, as it has become synonymous with Web pop-ups and spam, but I think Wizards has an opportunity to do this right and benefit the entire community, industry and consumers alike.
all i can think of is: if they now put ads into dungeon and dragon, they better lower the price, or many people will be upset. i like the idea of ad-financed subscriptions, anyway, but it seems to me that wotc wants to be a monopolist. (read: no ads for competitors wanted)
all i can think of is: if they now put ads into dungeon and dragon, they better lower the price, or many people will be upset. i like the idea of ad-financed subscriptions, anyway, but it seems to me that wotc wants to be a monopolist. (read: no ads for competitors wanted)
My whole premise is that Wizards should include advertising that benefits the consumer in order to lower the cost of DDI to benefit the consumer. I'm not advocating ads in Dragon so that Wizards can pocket the cash. That's not in anyone's interests but Wizards'. Also, I don't consider gaming peripheral companies and GSL adopters to be Wizards' competitors, and it would surprise me if they felt that way. I am not suggesting they sell ad space to White Wolf or Steve Jackson Games. I don't think this concept hurts or helps Wizards, beyond that it is good for their customers.
There again I am one of those imaginary people (that design team member said did not exist any more) that still use dial up and a modem.
Thanks,
Hdier
Ads by google or anyone else slows getting content sometimes as much as 15 percent.
There again I am one of those imaginary people (that design team member said did not exist any more) that still use dial up and a modem.
I mean no personal offense, but I feel very strongly that the days of optimizing Web content for dial-up consumers should be long since over. Progress always has its victims, and I am sorry whenever anyone has to suffer, but the technology must advance for the greater good. I hope there is an affordable broadband solution available to you soon.
In a further blow to my hardcore D&D4 renegade street cred, after Solice had the gall to post (not once, but twice!) in one of my threads the other day, mudbunny has suggested that I start a thread on the issue of advertising in Dragon and/or Dungeon. Well, all right, fine, I will – but it is only because I think it is a good idea. I’m no tool of the Man!
Pats Nemo_the_Found on the head
You just go telling yourself that Nemo. If it makes you feel better, go for it. :D
I would not be opposed to advertising in Dungeon/Dragon magazines, as long as it doesn't get to Vogue levels. There are a lot of D&D "goodies" makers that make most of their money through internet orders. I know that some of the stuff that I have either used at home or have given to a friend for christmas I have boughth through ads or announcements that I have found on the internet.
Note: Delaying content delivery includes delaying release on the Character Builder, Game Table etc.
On a related note, are there any plans for having comics back in the magazines? Maybe Rich Burlew could draw some short Order of the Stick gags again.
Do you people really believe that having ads placed in the E-zines would actually lower the price..........
Can you give an argument as to why it wouldn't??
(For the record, I don't think anyone here would consider "WotC will just keep all the profits" as a valid argument.)
Me, personally, I like the fact that I don't have to see advertisements. There are two ways I can watch new Heroes episodes online. From the NBC site (usually available the next morning), but with commercials or through a netflix subscription (usually not available the next morning, sometimes not even the next day). I choose the subscription without commercials.