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| #1banpaiOct 14, 2008 14:04:56 | Hi, I live in Germany and credit cards aren´t nearly as common as in the USA, so well I don´t have one - that said I am quite willing to commit to the 12 months option, so could you please offer alternative payment options soon ? |
| #2fodiggOct 14, 2008 16:18:22 | I hadn't even thought about that. |
| #3banpaiOct 14, 2008 16:22:46 | I hadn't even thought about that. Oh D&D players live all over the world, and with the current Euro/Dollar exchange rate the DI isn´t actually that expensive I would pay about 1/2 per month of what I used to pay for the print dragon. Well they are currently looking into the Paypal option, I have no experience with it, but it should be no major obstacle. |
| #4KentinalOct 14, 2008 16:55:07 | Perhaps they will even look into Cash cards, though that might depend on how common "children" have them. As I posted otherwhere, a Credit Card holder is inferred to be at least 18, though I do know that some younger can get a credit card (It does not appear to be very common, and most of them are a joint account with an an "Adult"), one point to stress perhaps if very few "children" have the cash card. The Paypal issue, unless changed, has no age verification so that is least likely to be added first as another payment option. |
| #5banpaiOct 14, 2008 17:23:41 | Perhaps they will even look into Cash cards, though that might depend on how common "children" have them. As I posted otherwhere, a Credit Card holder is inferred to be at least 18, though I do know that some younger can get a credit card (It does not appear to be very common, and most of them are a joint account with an an "Adult"), one point to stress perhaps if very few "children" have the cash card. To be blunt, I don´t really see a problem (other than me not able to access stuff) with teens using their paypal account to enter a subscription service - after all if they have money, and access to a Paypal account of bank account - they just pay once and get the service unless they chose the autorenew option. Maybe there are some traps in the US laws I am not aware of, but as far as I know the kids can buy boosters online for Magic online so why is this so different, you just exchange magic cards for "acces to website for time". And on the other hand, how many 13 year olds will actually have the money for DI ? And how many are clever enough to take their parents credit cards for it - I guess the parent´s could get the money back, but most aren´t all that keen to show the world that their kid steals. ;) As always, I am mostly quite mad about the fact that previous statements are no longer true, resulting in me not beeing able to access the D&D stuff ![]() |
| #6KentinalOct 14, 2008 17:57:42 | To be blunt, I don´t really see a problem (other than me not able to access stuff) with teens using their paypal account to enter a subscription service - after all if they have money, and access to a Paypal account of bank account - they just pay once and get the service unless they chose the autorenew option. Hmm, perhaps five years ago I read a chat session where one teen said weekly allowance was 100 USD per week (of course the person might not have been a teen and could be overstating allowance), because it was not the first time I monitored that chat site it sounded perhaps true. *shrugs* While I do not believe a major discussion of legal issues should occur here. Two that Digital River might be facing. Underage exposure to improper material for their legal age. They and WotC could be sued from corrupting "children". Minors have the right to revoke most contracts at anytime, with few exceptions. This would require Digital River to refund all payments less actual costs. WotC has already indicated they have no intention of any cash refunds to be paid. The Cash Card I infer is very similar to what in the US is called a Debit card. That the money already is on deposit in a bank or other financial institution. That the card just allows the seller to make a direct demand on your bank. Thus why if a Cash Card is mostly held by adults, just like credit cards, that is the best route to push for first. What they decide and clearly more are watching, or at least replying now, will depend on what they read here. They do know they lost some sales because of the current pay setup. What they read and what they see internally might effect payment policy, however likely legal and accountants would be consulted about risk assessment. |
| #7banpaiOct 14, 2008 18:37:37 | Hmm, perhaps five years ago I read a chat session where one teen said weekly allowance was 100 USD per week (of course the person might not have been a teen and could be overstating allowance), because it was not the first time I monitored that chat site it sounded perhaps true. *shrugs* You know, my temper has cooled down a bit, the stuff in dragon this months doesn´t look all that usefull to me (Gladiators .... like I need help with that), so I guess I can wait a bit longer. But unless they have some awesome realmslore for next month, or good crunch (the Swordmage article errata threat is still tough on me especially since most things weren´t corrected ) So yeah, they should try really hard to fix the problem until the players see that they can live without it and ..... I hesitate to actually mention it, but in less than 4 weeks Wraith of the Lich king will come out.... and well I and many others will have a subscribtion that takes our money (I pay via the telephone bill :D ).If it´s indeed that easy for minor to get out of contracts, I could actually understand Wotc a bit, but as long as you add a "yes I am 18 clause" to the contract it should be possible - but lets the lawyers decide that one (they were soooo quick with the GSL ) |