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Bards, Weapon Training Feats...

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#1
karossii
Feb 10, 2009 2:30:52 Okay, so I know the official stance on the weapon training feats from Dragon 368 is that you cannot have one of them AND a class-specific multiclass feat; even though they are not class specific, they are restricted as if they were. And I am fine with this.

However, the bard bypasses those restrictions.

So, the bard could not normally qualify for the weapon training feats, because a prerequisite is 'any martial class'.

However once said bard takes a martial class' class-specific multiclass feat, that bard now "counts as a member of that class for the purpose of meeting prerequisites for taking other feats and qualifying for paragon paths."

So if a bard takes Sneak of Shadows as a first level feat, said bard now qualifies for any feat with a prerequisite of 'rogue' as well as a prerequisite of 'any martial class'.

However the character builder does not seem to agree, and does not allow weapon training feats for a bard.

I have already posted a query to Customer Service, to see if I am mistaken or if the builder is in error; but I thought I would go ahead and post here in the mean time.
#2
dorpond
Feb 10, 2009 9:19:23 I am having this issue too and to be honest with you, I have been pulling my hair out with the Character Builder for over an hour now trying to implement the Whip abilities found in Dragon 368.

I just want my Bard to be good at the whip like I have him in 3rd edition. That's all I want. It has been terribly cumbersome though. So cumbersome that I just posted it in another thread.

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1147541

But yeah, I gave him Rogue Multiclassing too but after that, it is a nightmare trying to find the other 'house rule' items to make him work and even one ability is showing as Illegal.

Frustrating.
#3
mdonais
Feb 11, 2009 18:17:46 Bards were just added as a preview so it is possible the class ability isn't working properly. You should be able to take any number of multi-class feats as a bard. But you know that.

If you are having trouble finding a feat use the search function, just type whip and hit enter.

Show all feats if you are not seeing the any whip feats.
#4
dorpond
Feb 24, 2009 14:36:17 Works now with the latest Character Builder updates! Woohoo!!!
So yes, a Bard is eligable for 'all martial class' feats when picking a martial multiclass feat.
Have fun!

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#1 karossii Feb 10, 2009 2:30:52	Okay, so I know the official stance on the weapon training feats from Dragon 368 is that you cannot have one of them AND a class-specific multiclass feat; even though they are not class specific, they are restricted as if they were. And I am fine with this. However, the bard bypasses those restrictions. So, the bard could not normally qualify for the weapon training feats, because a prerequisite is 'any martial class'. However once said bard takes a martial class' class-specific multiclass feat, that bard now "counts as a member of that class for the purpose of meeting prerequisites for taking other feats and qualifying for paragon paths." So if a bard takes Sneak of Shadows as a first level feat, said bard now qualifies for any feat with a prerequisite of 'rogue' as well as a prerequisite of 'any martial class'. However the character builder does not seem to agree, and does not allow weapon training feats for a bard. I have already posted a query to Customer Service, to see if I am mistaken or if the builder is in error; but I thought I would go ahead and post here in the mean time.
#2 dorpond Feb 10, 2009 9:19:23	I am having this issue too and to be honest with you, I have been pulling my hair out with the Character Builder for over an hour now trying to implement the Whip abilities found in Dragon 368. I just want my Bard to be good at the whip like I have him in 3rd edition. That's all I want. It has been terribly cumbersome though. So cumbersome that I just posted it in another thread. http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1147541 But yeah, I gave him Rogue Multiclassing too but after that, it is a nightmare trying to find the other 'house rule' items to make him work and even one ability is showing as Illegal. Frustrating.
#3 mdonais Feb 11, 2009 18:17:46	Bards were just added as a preview so it is possible the class ability isn't working properly. You should be able to take any number of multi-class feats as a bard. But you know that. If you are having trouble finding a feat use the search function, just type whip and hit enter. Show all feats if you are not seeing the any whip feats.
#4 dorpond Feb 24, 2009 14:36:17	Works now with the latest Character Builder updates! Woohoo!!! So yes, a Bard is eligable for 'all martial class' feats when picking a martial multiclass feat. Have fun!