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Bug: Minotaur Racial Bonus in Character Builder

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#1
cavekeeper
Apr 25, 2010 13:57:07
Bug: Minotaur racial bonus

I'm sure someone has mentioned this already, but I'll post it anyway. when creating a character, racial modifier for the Minotaur, you get to pick from three ... strength, constitution, or wisdom. Program, when you enter scores, automatically adds +2 to strength, constitution, and wisdom. Then, at the bottom, it asks you to pick which ability you want to modify ... strength, constitution, or wisdom. So, ultimately, the minotaur, currently, gets +2 to strength, constitution, AND wisdom, PLUS an additional +2 for the ability you want to increase. I believe the rules state you get to pick from the three which ONE gets the +2. There shouldn't be any other enhancements, right?

Note: yes, I have the latest update. And, yes, I was changing the number in the score box and not using the + or - buttons in the base scores column. After putting my numbers in, the base scores usually adjust based on what's entered in the scores column. when I did this, it shows that the strength base score is 2 less than what's in the score column as well as the wisdom base score.

This may also be an errata for the PH3, I suppose, if it was the intention to give the minotaur such great racial modifiers. So, either way ... a bug there is. Someone gets to pick which one to fix!
#2
Neutronium_Dragon
Apr 25, 2010 14:16:37 You've read the bonuses incorrectly, though if you were using only the text on that screen I can easily see how that could happen since the line has ambiguous punctuation.

Minotaurs get +2 to Strength, full stop.

They ALSO get +2 to Constitution OR Wisdom. This is the option that you select.

I am not seeing the CB add +2 to all three, and certainly not another +2 on top of that. Are you sure that's what's happening in your copy?
#3
Janx_14
Apr 25, 2010 14:25:59 Yeah, I think your reading something wrong.

Minotaur get +2 strength, and a choice of +2 Con or +2 Wis, this is reflected in my version of the CB as well.

I didn't know you could type in the score directly, instead of using the + and - buttons. Though now that I've tried it, it does indeed let you do that.
#4
cavekeeper
Apr 25, 2010 19:29:00 Okay ... I see what I did. Good catch.

So, now explain this one because I'm a terrible rules reader, apparently. Might as well go two for two. Start the program, pick Warlord class, then it goes through all the options ... bravura warlord, then pick battlefield leader, and bravura presence. Why is there still an option at the bottom still open. It wants me to also pick Archer Warlord. Something I'm missing again?

Archer Warlord and Battlefield Leader are both class features in the class description on the right ...
#5
Neutronium_Dragon
Apr 29, 2010 5:36:39 Archer Warlord is a separate feature from the rest and can be mixed-and-matched with the others if desired. If you take it then you swap some default proficiencies. If you don't take it then you keep the default ones.

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#1 cavekeeper Apr 25, 2010 13:57:07	Bug: Minotaur racial bonus I'm sure someone has mentioned this already, but I'll post it anyway. when creating a character, racial modifier for the Minotaur, you get to pick from three ... strength, constitution, or wisdom. Program, when you enter scores, automatically adds +2 to strength, constitution, and wisdom. Then, at the bottom, it asks you to pick which ability you want to modify ... strength, constitution, or wisdom. So, ultimately, the minotaur, currently, gets +2 to strength, constitution, AND wisdom, PLUS an additional +2 for the ability you want to increase. I believe the rules state you get to pick from the three which ONE gets the +2. There shouldn't be any other enhancements, right? Note: yes, I have the latest update. And, yes, I was changing the number in the score box and not using the + or - buttons in the base scores column. After putting my numbers in, the base scores usually adjust based on what's entered in the scores column. when I did this, it shows that the strength base score is 2 less than what's in the score column as well as the wisdom base score. This may also be an errata for the PH3, I suppose, if it was the intention to give the minotaur such great racial modifiers. So, either way ... a bug there is. Someone gets to pick which one to fix!
#2 Neutronium_Dragon Apr 25, 2010 14:16:37	You've read the bonuses incorrectly, though if you were using only the text on that screen I can easily see how that could happen since the line has ambiguous punctuation. Minotaurs get +2 to Strength, full stop. They ALSO get +2 to Constitution OR Wisdom. This is the option that you select. I am not seeing the CB add +2 to all three, and certainly not another +2 on top of that. Are you sure that's what's happening in your copy?
#3 Janx_14 Apr 25, 2010 14:25:59	Yeah, I think your reading something wrong. Minotaur get +2 strength, and a choice of +2 Con or +2 Wis, this is reflected in my version of the CB as well. I didn't know you could type in the score directly, instead of using the + and - buttons. Though now that I've tried it, it does indeed let you do that.
#4 cavekeeper Apr 25, 2010 19:29:00	Okay ... I see what I did. Good catch. So, now explain this one because I'm a terrible rules reader, apparently. Might as well go two for two. Start the program, pick Warlord class, then it goes through all the options ... bravura warlord, then pick battlefield leader, and bravura presence. Why is there still an option at the bottom still open. It wants me to also pick Archer Warlord. Something I'm missing again? Archer Warlord and Battlefield Leader are both class features in the class description on the right ...
#5 Neutronium_Dragon Apr 29, 2010 5:36:39	Archer Warlord is a separate feature from the rest and can be mixed-and-matched with the others if desired. If you take it then you swap some default proficiencies. If you don't take it then you keep the default ones.