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| #1valhiemJun 03, 2010 13:51:58 | On page 64 of th PHB3 is says,"All monks use dex for their attacks." So a 2nd lvl monk with an 18 dex for a basic should have a +8 (dex+1/2lvl+prof bonus)(4+1+3). builder keeps using strength. |
| #2MarkAtkinsonJun 03, 2010 14:00:30 | Monk attacks are implement based and usually attack a NAD so you don't add the weapon prof bonus. A 2nd level, 18 dex monk attack would be 4(dex)+1(1/2 level)=5 |
| #3dybrarhJun 03, 2010 14:55:59 | When the PHB says "all attacks", it is referring to their class attack powers, which indeed all use Dexterity. Their melee basic attacks by default still use Strength much like everyone else's. |
| #4valhiemJun 03, 2010 15:22:39 | CB says my MBA unarmed is +6=2(str)+1(lvl)+3(prof). And it doesnt say attack powers. PHB3 Page 64 "All monks use dexterity for their attacks." Every attack they have uses Dex so why wouldn't the basic? |
| #5valhiemJun 03, 2010 15:30:59 | My at-will's should be +8=4(dex)+1(lvl)+3(prof). PHB1 page 274 "your base attack bonus for a power includes: 1/2 lvl, ability score mod,weap prof bonus, etc. PHB3 page 63 gives the monks unarmed strike a +3 prof bonus as does the CB. |
| #6melosJun 03, 2010 16:17:00 | My at-will's should be +8=4(dex)+1(lvl)+3(prof). PHB1 page 274 "your base attack bonus for a power includes: 1/2 lvl, ability score mod,weap prof bonus, etc. PHB3 page 63 gives the monks unarmed strike a +3 prof bonus as does the CB. You do not get the proficiency bonus unless your power has the weapon keyword. PHB page 275: The proficiency bonus gained from proficiency with a weapon applies to attack rolls made using that weapon. You gain the proficiency bonus only when using powers that have the weapon keyword. Also, look at PHB3 page 64: You can also use a weapon with which you’re proficient as an implement. When wielding the weapon as an implement, the weapon’s characteristics—proficiency bonus, damage die, and weapon properties like defensive or high crit—are irrelevant to your implement powers. Monk powers are implement powers, so this applies when using your unarmed strike for them. |
| #7melosJun 03, 2010 16:18:50 | CB says my MBA unarmed is +6=2(str)+1(lvl)+3(prof). And it doesnt say attack powers. PHB3 Page 64 "All monks use dexterity for their attacks." Every attack they have uses Dex so why wouldn't the basic? "Their attacks" means Monk attack powers. Basic attacks as listed on PHB page 287 are not Monk attack powers. They are basic powers that everyone has. |
| #8VaultDwellerJun 04, 2010 11:12:50 | As others have already pointed out, I will reiterate: 1. Monks do not use Dexterity for basic attacks. They use Strength for melee basic attacks, and Dexterity for ranged basic attacks - the same as everyone else does. The text you're citing is build advice, not rules text - it's just letting you know that all of Monk attack powers use Dexterity, and so that should be your primary ability score. 2. Proficiency bonuses apply only to Weapon attacks. They never apply to Implement attacks. |
| #9UndrhilJun 26, 2010 19:54:38 | There is a way for your monk to use DEX for melee basic attacks: Melee Training (Dex) feat. |