My netbook runs in Linux. I would very much like to run the new character builder on my netbook. I've tried using Moonlight but the character builder hangs at the load screen.
Has anyone managed to get the character builder working in linux? If you did, how did you accomplish the task. If you haven't, where would you suggest I look for more information?
Thanks for reading.
The problem is Moonlight is equivalent to Silverlight 2, with 3 still only in pre-alpha work or the alpha stage. However the CB requires at least Silverlight 4, so until Moonlight catches up, it will probably be unable to run it.
Ah-ha! So, the problem is that Moonlight is too far behind Silverlight. Thanks for the clarification.
What about running something like Internet Explorer (shudder) via WINE and snagging Silverlight that way? Any chance of being able to do that?
The problem is Moonlight is equivalent to Silverlight 2, with 3 still only in pre-alpha work or the alpha stage. However the CB requires at least Silverlight 4, so until Moonlight catches up, it will probably be unable to run it.
Ah-ha! So, the problem is that Moonlight is too far behind Silverlight. Thanks for the clarification.
The developers could have, with a little afterthought, limit the project to Silverlight 2, in principle, thus making it compatible with Moonlight, but i guess the Linux audience is too small, and they just expect them to run a virtual machine.
What about running something like Internet Explorer (shudder) via WINE and snagging Silverlight that way? Any chance of being able to do that?
VERY unlikely.
Silverlight is a bunch of libraries with a plugin for several browsers to make them show the content, much like flash.
Your best bet is using a virtual machine program, like Virtual Box.
The developers could have, with a little afterthought, limit the project to Silverlight 2, in principle, thus making it compatible with Moonlight, but i guess the Linux audience is too small, and they just expect them to run a virtual machine.
Would have been nice, yes. But I'm trying to be practical here instead of wishing for things that will never come ture.
VERY unlikely.
Silverlight is a bunch of libraries with a plugin for several browsers to make them show the content, much like flash.
Your best bet is using a virtual machine program, like Virtual Box.
That...seems a bit silly. Having to boot up a virtual machine just to use a single web page? There must be an easier solution!
The problem is Moonlight is equivalent to Silverlight 2, with 3 still only in pre-alpha work or the alpha stage. However the CB requires at least Silverlight 4, so until Moonlight catches up, it will probably be unable to run it.
Ah-ha! So, the problem is that Moonlight is too far behind Silverlight. Thanks for the clarification.
The developers could have, with a little afterthought, limit the project to Silverlight 2, in principle, thus making it compatible with Moonlight
It seems like they are using alot of the silverlight 4 features.
Don't know if you could use silverlight with WINE or not, but it doesn't seem out of reach. However it doesn't need IE. I've used it in Firefox and Chrome (under windows)
That...seems a bit silly. Having to boot up a virtual machine just to use a single web page? There must be an easier solution!
Yes... but all of the easier solutions involve the DDI programmers not choosing silverlight in the first place.
That...seems a bit silly. Having to boot up a virtual machine just to use a single web page? There must be an easier solution!
Yes... but all of the easier solutions involve the DDI programmers not choosing silverlight in the first place.
Web App, not web page.
And the poster above gave the definitive response on this.
Welcome to the 90s, the kingdom of Microsoft (or maybe we are trapped in a voyage with the ghost of christmas past?)
So - as long as my notebook has internet access, I can run Linux, and get both my CBC and the new CB and all my saved characters (CBC) whenever I want (and way faster than a dual boot).
Using Ubuntu on client machines. Debian on server, with pinned linux kernel version (newer ones break VMWare). I use the older style vmware-server-console - I like it better than the new browser/java based one. I also use seemlessrdp and have shortcuts on my Ubuntu desktops for it. People are strangely impressed when I double click on an icon that looks like a windows app, and it lo! it launches a windows app right on my Ubuntu desktop. It also runs faster than people expect (esp. on a netbook) because it is really running on my AMDx64 dual core in the basement, with a very fast filesystem.
I have about 4 linux machines around my place, with an always on server in the basement. On it, I have a VM (using VMWare) running Windows XP. On that, I run any software I haven't been able to run under Linux - mostly the CB (classic), and now the new CB (silverlight). I can access it from any machine in the house (actually a bonus compared to installing it 3 or 4 times), the characters are all in one place (on a nice Linux filesystem), and with some nifty port forwarding, I can actually access my CB from the internet!
So - as long as my notebook has internet access, I can run Linux, and get both my CBC and the new CB and all my saved characters (CBC) whenever I want (and way faster than a dual boot).
Using Ubuntu on client machines. Debian on server, with pinned linux kernel version (newer ones break VMWare). I use the older style vmware-server-console - I like it better than the new browser/java based one. I also use seemlessrdp and have shortcuts on my Ubuntu desktops for it. People are strangely impressed when I double click on an icon that looks like a windows app, and it lo! it launches a windows app right on my Ubuntu desktop. It also runs faster than people expect (esp. on a netbook) because it is really running on my AMDx64 dual core in the basement, with a very fast filesystem.
I'm not sure if this qualifies as an easier solution... but I like it.
I have about 4 linux machines around my place, with an always on server in the basement. On it, I have a VM (using VMWare) running Windows XP. On that, I run any software I haven't been able to run under Linux - mostly the CB (classic), and now the new CB (silverlight). I can access it from any machine in the house (actually a bonus compared to installing it 3 or 4 times), the characters are all in one place (on a nice Linux filesystem), and with some nifty port forwarding, I can actually access my CB from the internet!
So - as long as my notebook has internet access, I can run Linux, and get both my CBC and the new CB and all my saved characters (CBC) whenever I want (and way faster than a dual boot).
Using Ubuntu on client machines. Debian on server, with pinned linux kernel version (newer ones break VMWare). I use the older style vmware-server-console - I like it better than the new browser/java based one. I also use seemlessrdp and have shortcuts on my Ubuntu desktops for it. People are strangely impressed when I double click on an icon that looks like a windows app, and it lo! it launches a windows app right on my Ubuntu desktop. It also runs faster than people expect (esp. on a netbook) because it is really running on my AMDx64 dual core in the basement, with a very fast filesystem.
Awsome setup, gives an all new meaning to thin clients
I have about 4 linux machines around my place, with an always on server in the basement. On it, I have a VM (using VMWare) running Windows XP. On that, I run any software I haven't been able to run under Linux - mostly the CB (classic), and now the new CB (silverlight). I can access it from any machine in the house (actually a bonus compared to installing it 3 or 4 times), the characters are all in one place (on a nice Linux filesystem), and with some nifty port forwarding, I can actually access my CB from the internet!
So - as long as my notebook has internet access, I can run Linux, and get both my CBC and the new CB and all my saved characters (CBC) whenever I want (and way faster than a dual boot).
Using Ubuntu on client machines. Debian on server, with pinned linux kernel version (newer ones break VMWare). I use the older style vmware-server-console - I like it better than the new browser/java based one. I also use seemlessrdp and have shortcuts on my Ubuntu desktops for it. People are strangely impressed when I double click on an icon that looks like a windows app, and it lo! it launches a windows app right on my Ubuntu desktop. It also runs faster than people expect (esp. on a netbook) because it is really running on my AMDx64 dual core in the basement, with a very fast filesystem.
Very spiffy. An elegant solution - that unfortunately doesn't help me at all. I don't have a server of my own and likely will not have such a thing in the near future. I'm just trying to find the easiest way to get the CBO working on my netbook. It's looking like VM-ware is the answer. I might try and use WINE to install Firefox and see if I can get the WINE version of firefox to install Silverlight. I'm not hopeful, though.
I have about 4 linux machines around my place, with an always on server in the basement. On it, I have a VM (using VMWare) running Windows XP. On that, I run any software I haven't been able to run under Linux - mostly the CB (classic), and now the new CB (silverlight). I can access it from any machine in the house (actually a bonus compared to installing it 3 or 4 times), the characters are all in one place (on a nice Linux filesystem), and with some nifty port forwarding, I can actually access my CB from the internet!
So - as long as my notebook has internet access, I can run Linux, and get both my CBC and the new CB and all my saved characters (CBC) whenever I want (and way faster than a dual boot).
Using Ubuntu on client machines. Debian on server, with pinned linux kernel version (newer ones break VMWare). I use the older style vmware-server-console - I like it better than the new browser/java based one. I also use seemlessrdp and have shortcuts on my Ubuntu desktops for it. People are strangely impressed when I double click on an icon that looks like a windows app, and it lo! it launches a windows app right on my Ubuntu desktop. It also runs faster than people expect (esp. on a netbook) because it is really running on my AMDx64 dual core in the basement, with a very fast filesystem.
Very spiffy. An elegant solution - that unfortunately doesn't help me at all. I don't have a server of my own and likely will not have such a thing in the near future. I'm just trying to find the easiest way to get the CBO working on my netbook. It's looking like VM-ware is the answer. I might try and use WINE to install Firefox and see if I can get the WINE version of firefox to install Silverlight. I'm not hopeful, though.
I researched silverlight on wine, and the results are not encouraging. Netflix won't work, FF with SL is buggy, crashes a lot.
CBO for Linux will probably work when for Moonlight to get to 4.0 sometime next year (currently are at 2.0, with 3.0 in beta).
For a VM of Windows XP, I recommend you reserve 256MB ram (but not more that half your total) - more will not run much faster for what you need it for, install up to Service pack 2 (not necessarily 3 - it gets slower - bloatware). Don't install an Anti-virus or anti-spyware (and don't use it to browse the web other than WotC). Don't install any software you don't need. Remember to install a printer.
Once you have started it, don't start and stop it more than you can help, and it will work like an instant-on windows. Get the 1.x vmware-server-console as a native app for a client, it is snappier than the browser hosted client that 2.x defaults to. You can (and probably should) use vmware-server 2.0 (the 1.x console still works), you will need to install gcc-4.1 to run the install script. If you stick with an all 1.x vmware (as I did), your kernel must be /older/ than 2.6.23 to work.
Very spiffy. An elegant solution - that unfortunately doesn't help me at all. I don't have a server of my own and likely will not have such a thing in the near future. I'm just trying to find the easiest way to get the CBO working on my netbook. It's looking like VM-ware is the answer. I might try and use WINE to install Firefox and see if I can get the WINE version of firefox to install Silverlight. I'm not hopeful, though.
I'm pretty sure that won't work. I could be wrong, I haven't tried it myself, but I don't think WINE works quite that way.
Personally, I use a copy of VirtualBox and Windows XP in order to run the Character Builder (offline or online), Netflix Streaming, and Visual Studio when I need it for college classes.