Changing of the Guards

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#1

cart_sprinter

Aug 21, 2008 20:30:26
Solice wrote:
#2

SoulCatcher78

Aug 21, 2008 20:53:28
So Solice is taking GZ's position? I'm a bit confused but it could just be a long work day getting the better of me.

I thought she (pretty sure) did a great job getting us some pics at Gen Con and hope to see her as responsive to our requests (read:bleating) in her new position.

Congratulations!
#3

cart_sprinter

Aug 21, 2008 21:03:51
Yes.

Solice was the Community management member that over saw the Magic the Gathering area. She has now inherited the D&D, and D&Di areas and someone else is taking over the Magic the Gathering Area.
#4

Kentinal

Aug 21, 2008 23:59:10
Not sure how I should react to this. It took months for users to get G0 to work on improving communications with us. Do we need to train a new one now?
#5

serphet

Aug 22, 2008 0:17:38
GZ did amazing work, Solice has also been around (in the videos at least). Anyways GZ, thanks for everything, you did amazing stuff!

edit: now that I read that thread, did something happen with GZ? Could someone at least point me to the trail, or PM me with something?
#6

WolfStar76

Aug 22, 2008 10:02:54
GZ did amazing work, Solice has also been around (in the videos at least). Anyways GZ, thanks for everything, you did amazing stuff!

edit: now that I read that thread, did something happen with GZ? Could someone at least point me to the trail, or PM me with something?

The wording is ambiguous. It says he's left WotC to persue other opportunities. Which would indicate that he left of his own volition.

That the wording is short and terse, however, would lead the pessimist in me to read between the lines and think he may have been let go. Typically when someone leaves a company, they get a nice several-paragraph write-up talking about the things they did for the company.

So. . . unless we hear from Mike himself at some point, we may never really know.
#7

Kentinal

Aug 22, 2008 13:50:47
So. . . unless we hear from Mike himself at some point, we may never really know.

NDA likely applies for at least a year or two.
#8

WolfStar76

Aug 22, 2008 13:56:58
NDA likely applies for at least a year or two.

There's always that too.
#9

arthnek_the_boar_dup

Aug 22, 2008 20:11:21
Bummer. I liked gamer zero's podcast style. Towards the end he seemed to be a little disappointed by some of the let downs of the DDi.

I hope he wasn't yet another person to leave a game company with a bad taste in his mouth. That seems to happen more frequently than should be the case.

I haven't seen Solice around much or maybe I just haven't noticed. If she was interviewing at Gen Con was she the girl that was doing the interviews sort of reading off a list of prepared questions and looking kind of distracted off into the crowd?

Gamer zero was able to engage his interviews with a little more focus. I always felt he cared about what he was discussing and into the interview, as opposed to rattling off a prepared question and sort of spokesmodeling it.

Shrug.
#10

arthnek_the_boar_dup

Aug 22, 2008 20:12:20
I'm bummed out by this change.
#11

Shemeska_the_Marauder

Aug 22, 2008 21:50:16
So. . . unless we hear from Mike himself at some point, we may never really know.

And even then we might not know for sure, if past history is any indication.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2464458.html?&print=1
#12

kyros_tachyus

Aug 23, 2008 0:00:15
I realized that GZ did a lot for WotC but in the recent months he really dropped the ball on communicating with us. I wish him luck, but I feel bad for the person coming in cleaning up what mess he didn't clean up. Which he did try to fix up before he left it seems.

Goodbye GZ, and welcome Solice. Don't make the same mistakes that GZ did.
#13

hellmute

Aug 23, 2008 0:05:31
Goodbye GZ, and welcome Solice. Don't make the same mistakes that GZ did.

Did you just tell her to flee from the D&D forums for her life while she still had sanity?
#14

Dralenan

Aug 23, 2008 13:43:06
I thought you relinquished all claims to sanity as soon as you got here.
#15

hellmute

Aug 23, 2008 14:00:41
I thought you relinquished all claims to sanity as soon as you got here.

True.
#16

Ore

Aug 24, 2008 10:30:45
Sorry to see you go GZ. Good luck at whatever you are heading off to. Drop us a line sometime.

Welcome Solice!
#17

raloc

Aug 25, 2008 1:42:27
I realized that GZ did a lot for WotC but in the recent months he really dropped the ball on communicating with us. I wish him luck, but I feel bad for the person coming in cleaning up what mess he didn't clean up. Which he did try to fix up before he left it seems.

Goodbye GZ, and welcome Solice. Don't make the same mistakes that GZ did.

I'm inclined more to think he was probably butting heads with people at WotC over what communication was being presented. I don't think the lack of communication was his ball to drop, so to speak. Either way, I really hope he didn't get fired because of complaining here on the forums :/

I doubt it though (more likely he was ruffling feathers about the lack of information). If that's the case (feather ruffling) we'll likely have *less* information, since he'd have been replaced by a yes-man (or yes-person).
#18

edusauron

Aug 25, 2008 7:33:47
I guess it's a bit to soon to say so.
#19

mudbunny

Aug 25, 2008 7:52:13
Back from my vacation, and wow, what a change. It will take me a couple of days to get through all of the recent threads, but I am working on it.

I have sent a PM to Solice to find out what is going on with the excellent communication lines that have been opened up over the last month or so.
#20

Phobos

Aug 25, 2008 10:27:56
NDA likely applies for at least a year or two.

More of a question than not, but when do most folks sign an NDA when parting amicably?

I can understand one for WotC product info, like if he knew dates or plans or what not, but I'd find this very odd to cover his reasons to leave...
#21

mudbunny

Aug 25, 2008 10:38:17
Most NDAs would be signed when you start, or signing the NDA would be required in order to get severance/vacation/other benefits.
#22

nexusvalhees

Aug 25, 2008 11:51:01
Looks like alot of people had some beef with GZ.

Aside from the reorganization of the forums (GZ we hates for ever), why didn't people like him?

I would say hate is a strong word. Quite a few people lost all faith in him as it was beginning to seem that he was more of a diversion creator than someone actually seeking to communicate with us. But even with those that believed such I doubt there was any real ill will towards mike at the end of the day mike lost confidence from the community because he is paid by WoTC he made some questionable thread locks and re routing and he just didn't seem to get the job done as far ass communications is concerned. The only person I'd personally say has consistently done a good job on that front though is WoTCDM.
#23

mudbunny

Aug 25, 2008 11:51:54
It is a looong story that is incredibly biased depending on what point of view you take it from.

Re-hashing it would bring nothing but flames. Should you desire to read it, check out the thread here.
#24

hellmute

Aug 25, 2008 11:55:02
Sadly something that also hangs over Solice's head as well....having forums run by a company means that you will have biased forums. While not all moderation is heavier towards people that may have something negative to say about one of the products, it is far to easy to hide behind wanting to not have negative things said about one of the products as an excuse for certain moderator activities.

This makes moderation automatically biased for ANY forum run by a company and moderated by that companies employees.



So it wasn't all Mike, but just that lack of trust that will always exist in some form when the above is true.
#25

Kentinal

Aug 25, 2008 13:21:53
More of a question than not, but when do most folks sign an NDA when parting amicably?

I can understand one for WotC product info, like if he knew dates or plans or what not, but I'd find this very odd to cover his reasons to leave...

At times the contact when hired has a gag order in it. Mike clearly knew some things in advance of when he could tell the community. The fact that there is a terse announcement by the company leads to to suspect a gag order is in place. I could be wrong about this, but as days go by and we hear nothing from Mike it becomes more likely that some kind of gag is in place.
#26

solice

Aug 25, 2008 18:32:40
Thank you for the welcome!

I will be doing a lot of reading over the next few days to try and catch up!

Communication is key as a community manager, with that said there will be times that I can not give people the information they want to hear. When I can not answer questions directly, I will say as much however.
Otherwise I will provide as many answers as I can, or find someone who can!

Please never hesitate to let me know if you see questions without answers or concerns that are not being addressed. I can not solve everything but I can do my darndest to communicate the sollutions we do have!

Glad to be here!
#27

nexusvalhees

Aug 26, 2008 22:34:35
Thank you Solice I hope things go well and hope you are capable of rebuilding the bridges around here. That said you will find me unpleasant at times I have no problems voicing my opinions or interpretations of actions. I do try to remain civil but I have lost most of my faith in, and patience with WoTC in general. Which unfortunately means you have an uphill battle ahead of you. As I said before WoTC_DM has done a great job in communicating to us and even if I don't like everything he tells us at least he answers the questions. I still have hope that WoTC will shape up and turn this around and that is the reason I keep posting here. I believe that is why you see so many of the negative posters sticking in here because they still have a little hope left.
#28

hellmute

Aug 26, 2008 23:02:41
Thank you Solice I hope things go well and hope you are capable of rebuilding the bridges around here. That said you will find me unpleasant at times I have no problems voicing my opinions or interpretations of actions. I do try to remain civil but I have lost most of my faith in, and patience with WoTC in general. Which unfortunately means you have an uphill battle ahead of you. As I said before WoTC_DM has done a great job in communicating to us and even if I don't like everything he tells us at least he answers the questions. I still have hope that WoTC will shape up and turn this around and that is the reason I keep posting here. I believe that is why you see so many of the negative posters sticking in here because they still have a little hope left.

Did you somehow break into my mind and forums account, change my name, post my thoughts, and then switch my name back and log off so I could log in?

You sound just like me.

:evillaugh Now they have two of me to deal with.
#29

wotc_dm

Aug 29, 2008 3:25:09
...As I said before WoTC_DM has done a great job in communicating to us and even if I don't like everything he tells us at least he answers the questions...

I appreciate the praise but I want make sure it is duly shared with the community managers, both past (Gz) and present (Solice). Answering questions I can answer is certainly made easier by my role on the client applications and being directly connected to their status. I have jumped on these forums to answer questions related to this specific subject at the demand of the community manager, and in that respect both should be credited for these answers too.