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Character Builder Power Cards not taking level'd stats into consideration.

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#1
grimorian
Jun 22, 2009 12:43:56 Once a character has reached level 2/4/6 so on and so forth, the power cards on the character sheets printer by the character builder do not take the correct ability score modifiers into consideration for the powers. The power cards pull the ability score modifiers from the base score column and not from the +1/2 level column. This has not been difficult to get around, but is still a bit of a nuisance and my players frequently forget to add their correct modifiers when calculating their power attacks and damage. This problem is still in play on the latest version of the character builder. I have verified this problem on 3 separate PC's as well so I am fairly certain it is a program bug. If others have seen this problem please respond to this post.

Thanks.
#2
seanherring_dup
Jun 22, 2009 13:32:34 Well not sure of the 3 pc's you verified this on but...yeah no problem for me. Are you sure you have the math right? Are you sure its using the right weapon/implement for the attack? If its not, it would look off compared to what is should look like many times...but what you can do to help me help you is go to the Manage tab and then click on the "summary" sub tab and paste all the information there in a reply to this post..then I can recreate what you are doing and see if I have the same problem. It could be a matter of some selection that the system doesn't like...but I'm willing to give it a whack if you can get me the info.
#3
grimorian
Jun 23, 2009 10:20:29 Thank you for your response. Here is the information you requested for one of the characters...now...I must admit there is the distinct possibility that I do not understand the math and am just thinking it is wrong...

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
Arenar, level 2
Elf, Cleric
Build: Devoted Cleric

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 12, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 18, Cha 12.

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
Str 16, Con 12, Dex 8, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 12.

AC: 18 Fort: 14 Reflex: 12 Will: 17
HP: 35 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 8

TRAINED SKILLS
Religion +6, History +6, Heal +10, Arcana +6

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics, Bluff +2, Diplomacy +2, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +1, Insight +5, Intimidate +2, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth, Streetwise +2, Thievery, Athletics +3

FEATS
Cleric: Ritual Caster
Level 1: Raven Queen's Blessing
Level 2: Shield Proficiency (Light)

POWERS
Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame
Cleric at-will 1: Lance of Faith
Cleric daily 1: Beacon of Hope
Cleric encounter 1: Healing Strike
Cleric utility 2: Shield of Faith

ITEMS
Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Chainmail, Longbow, Mace, Light Shield
RITUALS
Gentle Repose, Tenser's Floating Disk
====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======

Where my question lies is in the ability modifiers + 1/2 Level. Are those scores taken into consideration for all powers? Or are there specific places to take those scores into effect? I think I need to read more...
#4
seanherring_dup
Jun 23, 2009 12:22:37 Ok what is your lance of faith showing as your attack bonus? It "should" be +4 stat +1 for 1/2 level at level 2...gives a total of 5...which is about right for that level without a magic implement.
#5
grimorian
Jun 24, 2009 9:23:02 My lance of Faith power card on the character sheet shows +4. It is not taking the +1/2 level into consideration. This is the same for all characters I create and all modifiers. Could it have to do with my adobe viewer version by any chance?

Thanks
#6
seanherring_dup
Jun 24, 2009 12:48:58 What I found when I inputed the information completely is that the attack is +5...im not sure what adobe would have to do with it...it doesnt use adobe for the character sheet viewer...are you using hte most up-to-date version of the CB?
#7
Forgarn
Jun 24, 2009 15:21:09 I just created the character and my is correct with a +1 for half level to all powers.
#8
grimorian
Jun 25, 2009 2:05:03 Ok, well I am feeling a bit silly now. I checked again, and the attack modifier is 5...so I am now thinking this question should be in a different topic...but if you will answer it for me I would be appreciative. Is the mod + 1/2 level applied to damage as well? If it is not, what situations other then bonus to attack is it used in?

Again I apologize as I know this is no longer is the correct category, but I figure since I am here ;)

Thanks
#9
ah_graht_dup
Jun 25, 2009 14:08:38 The + 1/2 level is not applied to damage, only stat, enhancement, miscellaneous, etc.

+ 1/2 level is applied to attacks, defenses, and skills.

#10
grimorian
Jun 25, 2009 21:10:36 Well thank you all for the clarification. I feel very noobish right now but I appreciate the information all the same. Thank you for your responses and assistance.

Grim
#11
dajonz
Oct 25, 2009 23:07:54
Along those lines, do effects such as pulling a target (with my Avenger) that depend on modifiers also not use 1/2 level bonuses? They're also considered damage?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 grimorian Jun 22, 2009 12:43:56	Once a character has reached level 2/4/6 so on and so forth, the power cards on the character sheets printer by the character builder do not take the correct ability score modifiers into consideration for the powers. The power cards pull the ability score modifiers from the base score column and not from the +1/2 level column. This has not been difficult to get around, but is still a bit of a nuisance and my players frequently forget to add their correct modifiers when calculating their power attacks and damage. This problem is still in play on the latest version of the character builder. I have verified this problem on 3 separate PC's as well so I am fairly certain it is a program bug. If others have seen this problem please respond to this post. Thanks.
#2 seanherring_dup Jun 22, 2009 13:32:34	Well not sure of the 3 pc's you verified this on but...yeah no problem for me. Are you sure you have the math right? Are you sure its using the right weapon/implement for the attack? If its not, it would look off compared to what is should look like many times...but what you can do to help me help you is go to the Manage tab and then click on the "summary" sub tab and paste all the information there in a reply to this post..then I can recreate what you are doing and see if I have the same problem. It could be a matter of some selection that the system doesn't like...but I'm willing to give it a whack if you can get me the info.
#3 grimorian Jun 23, 2009 10:20:29	Thank you for your response. Here is the information you requested for one of the characters...now...I must admit there is the distinct possibility that I do not understand the math and am just thinking it is wrong... ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ====== Arenar, level 2 Elf, Cleric Build: Devoted Cleric FINAL ABILITY SCORES Str 16, Con 12, Dex 10, Int 10, Wis 18, Cha 12. STARTING ABILITY SCORES Str 16, Con 12, Dex 8, Int 10, Wis 16, Cha 12. AC: 18 Fort: 14 Reflex: 12 Will: 17 HP: 35 Surges: 8 Surge Value: 8 TRAINED SKILLS Religion +6, History +6, Heal +10, Arcana +6 UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics, Bluff +2, Diplomacy +2, Dungeoneering +5, Endurance +1, Insight +5, Intimidate +2, Nature +7, Perception +7, Stealth, Streetwise +2, Thievery, Athletics +3 FEATS Cleric: Ritual Caster Level 1: Raven Queen's Blessing Level 2: Shield Proficiency (Light) POWERS Cleric at-will 1: Sacred Flame Cleric at-will 1: Lance of Faith Cleric daily 1: Beacon of Hope Cleric encounter 1: Healing Strike Cleric utility 2: Shield of Faith ITEMS Ritual Book, Adventurer's Kit, Chainmail, Longbow, Mace, Light Shield RITUALS Gentle Repose, Tenser's Floating Disk ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ====== Where my question lies is in the ability modifiers + 1/2 Level. Are those scores taken into consideration for all powers? Or are there specific places to take those scores into effect? I think I need to read more...
#4 seanherring_dup Jun 23, 2009 12:22:37	Ok what is your lance of faith showing as your attack bonus? It "should" be +4 stat +1 for 1/2 level at level 2...gives a total of 5...which is about right for that level without a magic implement.
#5 grimorian Jun 24, 2009 9:23:02	My lance of Faith power card on the character sheet shows +4. It is not taking the +1/2 level into consideration. This is the same for all characters I create and all modifiers. Could it have to do with my adobe viewer version by any chance? Thanks
#6 seanherring_dup Jun 24, 2009 12:48:58	What I found when I inputed the information completely is that the attack is +5...im not sure what adobe would have to do with it...it doesnt use adobe for the character sheet viewer...are you using hte most up-to-date version of the CB?
#7 Forgarn Jun 24, 2009 15:21:09	I just created the character and my is correct with a +1 for half level to all powers.
#8 grimorian Jun 25, 2009 2:05:03	Ok, well I am feeling a bit silly now. I checked again, and the attack modifier is 5...so I am now thinking this question should be in a different topic...but if you will answer it for me I would be appreciative. Is the mod + 1/2 level applied to damage as well? If it is not, what situations other then bonus to attack is it used in? Again I apologize as I know this is no longer is the correct category, but I figure since I am here ;) Thanks
#9 ah_graht_dup Jun 25, 2009 14:08:38	The + 1/2 level is not applied to damage, only stat, enhancement, miscellaneous, etc. + 1/2 level is applied to attacks, defenses, and skills.
#10 grimorian Jun 25, 2009 21:10:36	Well thank you all for the clarification. I feel very noobish right now but I appreciate the information all the same. Thank you for your responses and assistance. Grim
#11 dajonz Oct 25, 2009 23:07:54	Along those lines, do effects such as pulling a target (with my Avenger) that depend on modifiers also not use 1/2 level bonuses? They're also considered damage?