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#1 Snooze Dec 14, 2008 2:43:55	Am I completely missing something with this feature? I have a whole bunch of characters now, and I'd like to put them into different folders and be able to navigate through them, instead of having them all appear in one giant mass on the first screen. It seems like the "Character Groups" UI on the left side of the screen would be able to do this, but I can't seem to get it to do anything. Is this an upcoming feature? Thanks!
#2 htschu Dec 16, 2008 9:10:55	I found this out by accident when trying to hyphenate a character name. When you save a file name it as you like then follow your file name with a hyphen and a folder name. For instance if i save Andon-Fighter, the builder will save character Andon to the folder named Fighter. Have fun with this.
#3 warderbrad Dec 16, 2008 11:22:47	ok while that works, that really sucks. I have been bothered by the fact that you can't set the default saving location for characters or the default location for portraits to places other than their default. It is very annoying to have to move within my drive structure to the locations I want my stuff to be every time. But now if I want to organize my characters I have to have some really messed up file names to do it. And I tried this with one of my LFR characters (setting up a LFR folder within CB) and it lost all the background info and such info, reverting the portait to default and other things. Not what I would call a good way of dealing with it.
#4 htschu Dec 16, 2008 20:55:14	Don't create folders. The hyphenated save file name creates the folder for you and should save the complete character. I have not added any background information but my custom photos are all as they should be. Also don't move your pictures to the CB folder, instead tell CB where the picture is using the included picture changing feature. It would be nice to have a file manager of sorts built into CB, but it is workable for now.
#5 klintus_fang Dec 17, 2008 2:35:13	is the fact that hyphenated file names end up being listed as in separate "groups" in the character loading window a feature...or a bug. Some of you are assuming it is a feature, but it seems like a bug to me, because that, quite frankly, would be a rather silly way to implement such a feature.
#6 klintus_fang Dec 17, 2008 2:48:17	Afterall, the '-' isn't far from the '/' in the ASCII code table. I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to detect the '/' in the file name that specifies a folder but have a bug in that code. And, as a result, are accidentally identifying the '-' character as the folder delimiter.
#7 htschu Dec 17, 2008 9:42:14	is the fact that hyphenated file names end up being listed as in separate "groups" in the character loading window a feature...or a bug. Some of you are assuming it is a feature, but it seems like a bug to me, because that, quite frankly, would be a rather silly way to implement such a feature. Afterall, the '-' isn't far from the '/' in the ASCII code table. I wouldn't be surprised if they are trying to detect the '/' in the file name that specifies a folder but have a bug in that code. And, as a result, are accidentally identifying the '-' character as the folder delimiter. I see your point about this being a bug. It is an awful strange way to set directories and create new groups. It is a bit clumsy and definately awkward. As a side note I have gone back and tested, if you try to use a "\" in the file name the builder throws an error message saying that you have chosen an incorrect path. On another note the hyphen method will not allow you to create subfolders. I almost wonder if I shouldn't submit a bug report for this.
#8 mdonais Dec 17, 2008 18:04:30	We are working on the folder and sub folders interface still. We have a plan for it but it won't be done until after release during one of our monthly updates. I think it will end up being more intuitive and expected. Obviously getting all 30 levels into the hands of our fans took precedence over some things like this. If you have suggestions on this feel free to post them.
#9 coppro Dec 17, 2008 18:57:36	At least a drag-and-drop interface would be nice; you could drag the icon to the appropriate folder on the left, and it will rename the character file appropriately. A 'Create New' button would also be nice, if it can just push an empty group into the list, allowing you make new ones without resaving characters or using explorer.
#10 DragonsWrath Dec 18, 2008 9:04:26	I'm going to echo what I said in 4E General, but here it is: Allow users to have several characters open at once, and SHOW US THEIR STATS in one nice summary photoshopped screenshot
#11 DragonsWrath Dec 18, 2008 9:12:46	ok while that works, that really sucks. I have been bothered by the fact that you can't set the default saving location for characters or the default location for portraits to places other than their default. It is very annoying to have to move within my drive structure to the locations I want my stuff to be every time. But now if I want to organize my characters I have to have some really messed up file names to do it. And I tried this with one of my LFR characters (setting up a LFR folder within CB) and it lost all the background info and such info, reverting the portait to default and other things. Not what I would call a good way of dealing with it. Navigate to file:///C:/Program%20Files/Wizards%20of%20the%20Coast/Character%20Builder%20Beta/ Open "WPFBuilder.exe.config" in a text editor. Literally a text editor, such as notepad or wordpad, NOT WORD. SAVE A COPY OF THIS FILE AS A BACKUP. SAVE IT AS "WPFBuilder_BACKUP.exe.config" or something. Just save a backup before you make changes. Ctrl+F and modify the following fields to fit your needs: Saved Characters Sample Portraits Sample Characters [edit] OK, the portrait thing didn't work, but I think the character folder file did. Can this be added to The List Of Things To Fix Soon? I hate it when random programs go creating folders on my computer. I have everything right where I want it, and they will answer to ME when they mess with my system! :P ...
#12 klintus_fang Dec 18, 2008 11:58:53	the program does not create the folders when there are '-' in the file name. It simply displays them as being in folders when it lists the characters on the character load screen. The annoying thing is that if I place the characters in different folders (RPGA characters in one folder, characters for the campaign I play in in another folder, characters for the campaign i DM in another, etc...) the program goes and completely ignores the folder hierarchy and displayes them in the character load window as one big jumble. Then it goes and takes any character that has a '-' in its file name and displays it somewhere else. If that isn't a bug, it's a classic case of "reinventing the wheel" and breaking the wheel in the process. File systems already have a clear and succinct mechanism for sorting files of similar types into different groups. Ignoring that mechanism and then overlaying an alternative mechanism on top of it that does the exact same thing but in a more kludgy fashion makes no sense.