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Classic Monster Builder: Attack Bonuses?

Post/Author/DateTime Post
#1
goodygoodman
Aug 26, 2011 1:26:11 Was there errata somewhere that I don't remember that set Controller attack bonuses vs. NADs as level + 4 instead of Level +3? I can see it being helpful, since they tend to have more exotic attacks, but I cannot find the rule for this in the errata. Am I missing something?
#2
goodygoodman
Aug 26, 2011 1:27:49 On double check, it was in the original rules. I thought the monster builder used the MM3 math in the errata?
#3
kenjoon
Aug 26, 2011 12:44:31
On double check, it was in the original rules. I thought the monster builder used the MM3 math in the errata?

The MB first and foremost is a DB interface. Unless a specific monster gets errata or an update of some kind, the data in the MB needs to reflect the monster exactly as it is printed in the original source. I don't think anyone can resonably say they want the MB to start mucking around with the numbers "automatically". While the old MB has those "reset" buttons, what it really needs is a button that says "update to MM3 errata math".
#4
goodygoodman
Aug 29, 2011 18:29:22 My question was concerning when you make custom monsters. It uses the original monster combat table, not the errata.
#5
kenjoon
Aug 29, 2011 21:27:58
My question was concerning when you make custom monsters. It uses the original monster combat table, not the errata.

I use the cheat sheet at slyflourish.com/master_dm_sheet.pdf I don't even bother with the numbers generated by the builder because even with the MM3 updates you still have to tweak the numbers based on your group. If everyone in your group has resist 10 fire and you throw a themed encounter at them where all the damage is fire, then the encounter will be a pushover/joke. Resist should have been limited to about 5 at level 30 and even then it's probably still too much based on monsters doing average damage of level + 8. 5/38 = 13.2% resist vs what we have now of 15/38 = 39.5%
#6
Simonides
Sep 20, 2011 23:14:23 Yes. The Monster Builder currently seems to be using the pre-revision rules to generate custom monster stats.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 goodygoodman Aug 26, 2011 1:26:11	Was there errata somewhere that I don't remember that set Controller attack bonuses vs. NADs as level + 4 instead of Level +3? I can see it being helpful, since they tend to have more exotic attacks, but I cannot find the rule for this in the errata. Am I missing something?
#2 goodygoodman Aug 26, 2011 1:27:49	On double check, it was in the original rules. I thought the monster builder used the MM3 math in the errata?
#3 kenjoon Aug 26, 2011 12:44:31	On double check, it was in the original rules. I thought the monster builder used the MM3 math in the errata? The MB first and foremost is a DB interface. Unless a specific monster gets errata or an update of some kind, the data in the MB needs to reflect the monster exactly as it is printed in the original source. I don't think anyone can resonably say they want the MB to start mucking around with the numbers "automatically". While the old MB has those "reset" buttons, what it really needs is a button that says "update to MM3 errata math".
#4 goodygoodman Aug 29, 2011 18:29:22	My question was concerning when you make custom monsters. It uses the original monster combat table, not the errata.
#5 kenjoon Aug 29, 2011 21:27:58	My question was concerning when you make custom monsters. It uses the original monster combat table, not the errata. I use the cheat sheet at slyflourish.com/master_dm_sheet.pdf I don't even bother with the numbers generated by the builder because even with the MM3 updates you still have to tweak the numbers based on your group. If everyone in your group has resist 10 fire and you throw a themed encounter at them where all the damage is fire, then the encounter will be a pushover/joke. Resist should have been limited to about 5 at level 30 and even then it's probably still too much based on monsters doing average damage of level + 8. 5/38 = 13.2% resist vs what we have now of 15/38 = 39.5%
#6 Simonides Sep 20, 2011 23:14:23	Yes. The Monster Builder currently seems to be using the pre-revision rules to generate custom monster stats.