Compendium monster data errors

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#1

voxhumana

Jul 17, 2010 0:16:49		As I go through the compendium I keep finding little data errors, which I've been noting down.

Not knowing where else to take them, I'll post them here. They probably don't really need discussion, but hopefully someone, somewhere will pay heed and get them fixed.

1 - www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo... 
- under Blackfire it reads as "+27 vs or (whichever is lower)" - the AC/Fort/Ref/Will is missing.

2 - www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...
- No size is given

3 - www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...
 - There is some completely random text at the bottom which seems to relate to a character power, not this monster




 
#2

voxhumana

Jul 17, 2010 1:55:17
4 - www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...
- Basic attack 'to-hit' stat conflicts with Adv Vault listing: +14 v AC in book (p182), +12 on Compendium.
#3

Dane_McArdy

Jul 17, 2010 7:53:37 		There is a report a bug feature when you launch the tools, make sure you report there.
#4

voxhumana

Jul 17, 2010 8:24:31 		THanks for that - I actually found the link after I posted here, so I've sent them the link to this forum. I've found 2 more errors since then, so having this thread here is worth it. Plus other people might post their discoveries.

#5

paolom

Jul 17, 2010 21:30:38
THanks for that - I actually found the link after I posted here, so I've sent them the link to this forum. I've found 2 more errors since then, so having this thread here is worth it. Plus other people might post their discoveries.


I love that users are finding errors and report them. Just keep in mind that, if you use the report a bug feature, your issues are automatically entered into our bug tracking tool where we triage and assign them twice a week.

Again, thanks for your contribution to make the DDi tools better.
#6

voxhumana

Jul 18, 2010 1:41:17 		A pleasure - glad to help and doubly glad that you're looking into it. I'll post all new discoveries via the bug tracker, but list them here just for reference's sake.

New finds:

#6 -  A large number of records have the data item  "Published in Draconomicon: Metalic Dragons."
It should be "Metallic". (Other records have it spelt correctly.)

#7 - The following creatures all share the same problems:
www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...
www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...
www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...
www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...

1 - No "origin"
2 - No "type"
3 - Misspelled source reference ('sILvers' should be 'sLIvers'

The origin/type should probably be "natural/animate", but that's just my opinion.
#7

voxhumana

Jul 18, 2010 10:29:02 		Well I just logged 72 more data errors via the bug report forum. I'm sure I won't be popular.

Here's my latest list of monsters I found errors in. The errors range from spelling mistakes, missing "AC/For/Ref/Will" values, duplicate descriptions of powers (that sometimes contradict each other), to-hit stats for heal powers, "Published in..." links that go to the wrong target, and other stuff.

#8

paolom

Jul 18, 2010 13:31:11
Well I just logged 72 more data errors via the bug report forum. I'm sure I won't be popular.

Here's my latest list of monsters I found errors in. The errors range from spelling mistakes, missing "AC/For/Ref/Will" values, duplicate descriptions of powers (that sometimes contradict each other), to-hit stats for heal powers, "Published in..." links that go to the wrong target, and other stuff.


WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!?!

Laughing

Seriously, it's great. Just make sure to indicate what the problem was in each bug report, so we can pinpoint and figure it out quicker.

Thanks again!
#9

voxhumana

Jul 18, 2010 17:47:02 		Yes, all errors are fully detailed, right down to which specific line of the entry the problem is in, plus a copy of the text from the source where they conflict (and if I have it). Even the bug reports are numbered.

One example:

Compendium data corrections #53
www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...
Deep Goblin Curser
1 - "Incite Bravery" description: contains the text "+8 vs or (whichever is lower)" which is missing target defense, and also doesn't make sense in context (it's a basic attack + shift)


I'm off to Europe today for a few weeks, so you will get some respite... but then I'll be back.
#10

paolom

Jul 18, 2010 20:27:37
Yes, all errors are fully detailed, right down to which specific line of the entry the problem is in, plus a copy of the text from the source where they conflict (and if I have it). Even the bug reports are numbered.

One example:

Compendium data corrections #53
www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/mo...
Deep Goblin Curser
1 - "Incite Bravery" description: contains the text "+8 vs or (whichever is lower)" which is missing target defense, and also doesn't make sense in context (it's a basic attack + shift)


I'm off to Europe today for a few weeks, so you will get some respite... but then I'll be back.

Fantastic!

Thank you.
#11

Webster

Jul 18, 2010 20:28:59 		When submitting them, I'm sure you can put them on one form rather than one at a time.

The reason is because it clogs the system. We had a PM spammer that would have been handled sooner if there weren't 30 bug reports right in front of it.

(Plus, your own mailbox won't be filled with thanks for reporting replies. FYI, those aren't auto generated. Each one was sent individually.)

Thanks!



#12

PinkRose

Jul 21, 2010 18:51:48 		I want to help fix the compendium entries.
Should I report all the monsters that aren't using the right format?
Can I list them here?
The new formatted monsters have a large white stripe below each name entry before the HP and Initiative entries

Also, do we know/is it on purpose, that only MM3 and HS1 entries are in the new MM3 format?

And how do we make sure we aren't reporting the same thing as others?
Is there a list other then these few web posts?

And the Compendium itself isn't looking right.
The lists of creatures are being clipped in in the list.
They bleed past the frame.
Happens in Firefox, IExplorer, and Chrome.


Happy to help, just tell me how.
#13

Alphastream

Jul 21, 2010 23:24:56 		Since this thread seems to be getting some official attention, I want to remind the staff that this thread over here was created by WotC for tracking bugs. However, it seems to get no official attention. There are a number of recent bugs captured on the last page. Thanks!
#14

tenian

Jul 26, 2010 19:41:49 		Something happened with the Origin/Keywords/Type information in the original Monster Manual.  I haven't checked any entries from the MM2 but the original MM has tons of errors all of a sudden.  Here are a few:

Fire Bat : Was [Medium elemental beast (fire)] is [Medium natural elemental aberrant immortal fey shadow beast magical beast animate humanoid (fire)]
Balor: Was [Huge elemental humanoid (demon)] is [Huge elemental beast (demon)]
Aboleth Servitor: Was [Medium aberrant humanoid (aquatic)] is [Medium aberrant magical beast (aquatic)]
Aboleth Slime Mage: Was [Large aberrant magical beast (aquatic)] is [Large aberrant humanoid (aquatic)]
Yuan-ti Abomination: Was [Large natural humanoid (reptile)] is [Large aberrant magical beast (reptile)]
Adult Black Dragon: Was [Large natural magical beast (aquatic, dragon)] is [Large elemental humanoid (aquatic, dragon)]
Angel of Battle: Was [Large immortal humanoid (angel)] is [Large natural magical beast (angel)]
Aspect of Orcus: Was [Large elemental humanoid (demon)] is [Large natural animate (demon)]
Atropal: Was [Large immortal beast magical beast (undead)] is [Large immortal humanoid (undead)]
Azer Beastlord: Was [Medium elemental humanoid (fire)] is [Medium immortal beast magical beast (fire)]
Balhannoth: Was [Large aberrant magical beast (blind)] is [Large elemental humanoid (blind)]
Barlgura: Was [Large elemental beast (demon)] is [Large natural beast (demon)]
Battle Guardian: Was [Large natural animate (construct)] is [Large elemental beast (construct)]
Bearded Devil (Barbazu): Was [Medium immortal humanoid (devil)] is [Medium natural humanoid (devil)]
Blackfire Dracolich: Was [Gargantuan natural magical beast (dragon, undead)] is [Gargantuan immortal humanoid (dragon, undead)]
Blackroot Treant: Was [Huge fey magical beast (plant, undead)] is [Huge natural magical beast (plant, undead)]
Blackscale Bruiser: Was [Large natural humanoid (reptile)] is [Large fey magical beast (reptile)]
Bloodspike Behemoth: Was [Large natural beast (reptile)] is [Large elemental humanoid (reptile)]
Bone Devil (Osyluth): Was [Large immortal humanoid (devil)] is [Large shadow humanoid (devil)]
Bone Naga: Was [Large immortal magical beast (undead)] is [Large immortal humanoid (undead)]
Bralani of Autumn Winds: Was [Medium fey humanoid, eladrin] is [Medium natural animate, eladrin]
Bugbear Strangler: Was [Medium natural humanoid, goblin ] is [Medium fey humanoid, goblin]
Cambion Hellsword: Was [Medium immortal humanoid (devil)] is [Medium elemental beast (devil)]
Carrion Crawler: Was [Large aberrant beast] is [Large immortal humanoid]
Cave Bear: Was [Medium natural beast] is [Medium aberrant beast]
Celestial Charger: Was [Large immortal beast (mount)] is [Large natural humanoid (mount)]
Chain Devil: Was [Medium immortal humanoid (devil)] is [Medium immortal beast (devil)]
#15

voxhumana

Aug 21, 2010 6:54:56 		Dear Webster - boo fricketty hoo.

I spent the better part of 16 hours going through data fixing YOUR mistakes - for no reward or personal benefit.

Hence if I (or anyone else) send these corrections through at all then you should be grateful and not complain how it gets sent.

If your support staff aren't capable of scanning through all of the current issues and identifying high priority concerns such as spammers, then your problems go much deeper.

Frankly you can shove your comment where the sun don't shine. And from now on I'll keep all of my discoveries to myself - find and fix your own damn data.