D&D in the News - Power2ool Makes D&D Encounter Design a Critical Success

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#1

MaximumHavoc

Jun 02, 2011 13:07:01
D&D in the News
Power2ool Makes D&D Encounter Design a Critical Success

2011 May 31
by Michael Harrison

Power2ool.com, a Flash-based webapp that interfaces directly with the Dungeons & Dragons Compendium and lets you place monster, item and class cards onto a virtual tabletop.

Talk about this news here.


#2

robokomodo

Jun 02, 2011 14:23:39
OMG. Great tool.
Not perfect, but great. 
#3

drnick

Jun 02, 2011 14:28:52
I've been using this for about a month and I really like it. I look forward to them adding a lot of new tools.
#4

Kalex_the_Omen

Jun 02, 2011 14:53:40
I like this kind of positive community value add to DDi!  I've played around with this, and it is pretty neat.  However, I am such stickler for creating professional looking advenutres that this just doesn't have all the functionality that I want.  I hope it is just the tip of the iceburg in 3rd party development though.
#5

drnick

Jun 02, 2011 14:55:00
I like this kind of positive community value add to DDi!  I've played around with this, and it is pretty neat.  However, I am such stickler for creating professional looking advenutres that this just doesn't have all the functionality that I want.  I hope it is just the tip of the iceburg in 3rd party development though.



I still write up all my adventures but I use this at the table to roll dice and track stuff. It actually saves a lot of time.
#6

darknesscreeping

Jun 02, 2011 15:09:59
This looks pretty cool.  Can't wait to get home and try it out in depth.  I'll report back after I'm done. 
#7

Kalex_the_Omen

Jun 02, 2011 15:14:07
I like this kind of positive community value add to DDi!  I've played around with this, and it is pretty neat.  However, I am such stickler for creating professional looking advenutres that this just doesn't have all the functionality that I want.  I hope it is just the tip of the iceburg in 3rd party development though.



I still write up all my adventures but I use this at the table to roll dice and track stuff. It actually saves a lot of time.



Ok.  I see.  I use Dungeon Master's Battle Screen for running my fights and roll old fashioned dice in to a dice boot in front of my players.  I'd really like to see something that allows me to actually design encounters.  That said, this is a nifty program and I am glad to see this kind of 3rd party development.
#8

kraze

Jun 11, 2011 11:37:15
This is one of the better tools I've seen.  Thanks for the link.
#9

dfn55

Jun 11, 2011 18:18:37
I wonder if this would run on an Android tablet PC...
#10

quintal

Jun 13, 2011 13:15:35
I use this for making item cards to hand out to my players. Works great.
#11

CoarseDragon

Jun 13, 2011 16:34:02
How much long do you think WotC will allow this to remain online?
#12

mudbunny

Jun 14, 2011 7:24:51
How much long do you think WotC will allow this to remain online?

Quite a while as long as it doesn't violate the ToS of DDI.

As long as people have a subscription, the tool isuseful. Once they no longer have a subscription, the tool no longer has access tot he compendium.

It falls into the same vein as iPlay4E.
#13

Blakey

Jun 14, 2011 10:11:20
Can someone who has used both please provide a quick comparison (I have a DDi account obviously):

When setting up an encounter using this tool and Masterplan, can either/both search the compendium for suitable monsters (levels, roles, etc) and allow you to select which ones you want and populate an encounter directly in this way?

Thanks
Blakey

#14

kraze

Jun 14, 2011 15:19:39
It doesn't work on the Galaxy Tab with the stock ROM.  Don't know about any of the honeycomb devices.  Still a great service,  I used it to plan for my session last weekend and it sped things up niceley.  I hope they finish it.
#15

Devereaux

Jun 14, 2011 22:47:10
How much long do you think WotC will allow this to remain online?

Quite a while as long as it doesn't violate the ToS of DDI.



Oh, in the same way that they embraced Masterplan? #notbitter
#16

Kalex_the_Omen

Jun 15, 2011 5:45:14
How much long do you think WotC will allow this to remain online?

Quite a while as long as it doesn't violate the ToS of DDI.



Oh, in the same way that they embraced Masterplan? #notbitter



This app doesn't download content to the local machine.  Apparently Masterplan did.  There is a difference and it should be obvious why one is okay and the other is not.
#17

Devereaux

Jun 15, 2011 5:54:23
This app doesn't download content to the local machine.  Apparently Masterplan did.  There is a difference and it should be obvious why one is okay and the other is not.



You may be right, but the suggestion was that Masterplan violated the terms of use. It did not.
#18

Kalex_the_Omen

Jun 15, 2011 6:10:59
This app doesn't download content to the local machine.  Apparently Masterplan did.  There is a difference and it should be obvious why one is okay and the other is not.



You may be right, but the suggestion was that Masterplan violated the terms of use. It did not.



ToU requires you have an active account to access the data.  Downloading that data to a local machine is a violation of ToU.

The relevant clause...

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#19

mudbunny

Jun 15, 2011 6:27:25
How much long do you think WotC will allow this to remain online?

Quite a while as long as it doesn't violate the ToS of DDI.



Oh, in the same way that they embraced Masterplan? #notbitter



The fact that Masterplan enabled one to download the Compendium and easily share it with people who didn't have a DDI subscription *might* have had something to do with it.
#20

Devereaux

Jun 15, 2011 6:52:58
ToU requires you have an active account to access the data.  Downloading that data to a local machine is a violation of ToU.



Oh the data mining clause, yeah. It's not the same thing as what Masterplan was doing, obviously.
#21

Devereaux

Jun 15, 2011 6:54:43
The fact that Masterplan enabled one to download the Compendium and easily share it with people who didn't have a DDI subscription *might* have had something to do with it.



I think you're on a slippery slope if you're suggesting that the actions of a user are the responsibility of the application!
#22

Kalex_the_Omen

Jun 15, 2011 7:00:58
ToU requires you have an active account to access the data.  Downloading that data to a local machine is a violation of ToU.



Oh the data mining clause, yeah. It's not the same thing as what Masterplan was doing, obviously.



I mistakenly highlighted too much of the clause.  It is a violation to download the data other than browser caching.
#23

Kalex_the_Omen

Jun 15, 2011 7:02:03
The fact that Masterplan enabled one to download the Compendium and easily share it with people who didn't have a DDI subscription *might* have had something to do with it.



I think you're on a slippery slope if you're suggesting that the actions of a user are the responsibility of the application!



You're being ridiculous.  The application itself allowed downloading of the data that was not browser caching.  It was in violation, like it or not.
#24

Devereaux

Jun 15, 2011 7:18:18
You're being ridiculous.  The application itself allowed downloading of the data that was not browser caching.  It was in violation, like it or not.



In fact that's not how it worked, but I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the product. Hopefully we can agree that the current version of Masterplan does not contravene even the most stringent interpretation of the ToS!
#25

Kalex_the_Omen

Jun 15, 2011 7:21:22
You're being ridiculous.  The application itself allowed downloading of the data that was not browser caching.  It was in violation, like it or not.



In fact that's not how it worked, but I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the product. Hopefully we can agree that the current version of Masterplan does not contravene even the most stringent interpretation of the ToS!



Certainly.  Which is why they are being left alone.  Power2ool does nothing more than browser caching of information (and allowing it to be printed), which is expressly allowed by the ToU.
#26

Herrozerro

Jun 15, 2011 7:32:26
What bothers me is that masterplan got the boot while Herolab a character builder that does pretty much the same thing didn't.

Masterplan isnt directly competing with any of DDi's Current applications while herolab is.
#27

kenjoon

Jun 15, 2011 8:39:03
What bothers me is that masterplan got the boot while Herolab a character builder that does pretty much the same thing didn't.

Masterplan isnt directly competing with any of DDi's Current applications while herolab is.


Because HeroLab didn't build the download tool into their own product.  You need an external tool to get the data.  Such a tool is in violation of the ToU.
#28

obryn

Jun 15, 2011 9:31:17
I was disappointed that Masterplan lost its download feature, but I'm thrilled that I can still nevertheless use it for combat tracking and for adventure planning.

This looks like a good tool, too, but I'm a Masterplan convert.

-O
#29

Herrozerro

Jun 15, 2011 13:53:05
What bothers me is that masterplan got the boot while Herolab a character builder that does pretty much the same thing didn't.

Masterplan isnt directly competing with any of DDi's Current applications while herolab is.


Because HeroLab didn't build the download tool into their own product.  You need an external tool to get the data.  Such a tool is in violation of the ToU.



Hey Devereaux, Sounds like a sneaky way to get masterplan back on the track to downloadable content!  

But anyways, herolab isnt built in but it is included in the download, you dont have to go anywhere for it.  It is included in the package. 
#30

Jharii

Jun 15, 2011 20:04:24
Two 3rd party apps already scrape the compendium (the one for Hero Labs and there is one out there that people use for a popular virtual table).  As far as I can tell, there is nothing wrong with parsing the files that those utilities generate.
#31

Akriel

Jun 15, 2011 20:20:38
I wonder if this would run on an Android tablet PC...

Yup it runs on my Android 2.2 Tablet  with Opera Mobile
#32

Warder17

Jun 17, 2011 15:55:31
When I saw in the video that it ran on safari I though it would also run on an iPad... I was wrong.

Anyway, very nice app, I really like the way he manage to mine the compendium and make it look like a power from the books.

Warder
#33

x3nth10n

Jun 17, 2011 17:50:38
Cool, I'm pretty sure I actually know the guy that makes this.  If I'm right, he is the boyfriend of one of my players/friends.  I will have to double check next time we meet =)