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#1 karrg Oct 08, 2009 21:37:42	What is the D&D Compendium? The D&D Compendium is a browser-based utility that allows you to search for every rules element in the game. Use the Compendium's extensive filters to find exactly what you're looking for. Even if you're not a subscriber, use the D&D Compendium as a master index of D&D content. But if you're an Insider, you also get the complete rules text of each element     Is that statement still correct(copied from WoTC site) and its just not updated or is the compendium not going to be a rules compendium?
#2 Herrozerro Oct 09, 2009 0:39:25	what are you looking for?  i see plenty of rules in the compendium.  165 entries in the "rules" category of the glossary.
#3 karrg Oct 09, 2009 2:24:35	Well I didn't see the rules for the minions artificers can summon, ditto ranger beastmastery pets, and druid wildshapeing....its possibly I missed them but if so the search function needs some work. I noticed all that in the first hour of using it. Just wondering if the compendium is going to have all that stuff or I misread the website.
#4 Quintarius Oct 09, 2009 4:28:56	True some things seem to be amiss, Wild shaping though are two words. Wild Shaping (two words!): www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/po... But aside from that MANY a rules are available
#5 asmodeuslore Oct 09, 2009 8:38:47	Well I didn't see the rules for the minions artificers can summon, ditto ranger beastmastery pets, and druid wildshapeing....its possibly I missed them but if so the search function needs some work. I noticed all that in the first hour of using it. Just wondering if the compendium is going to have all that stuff or I misread the website. Check the keywords on the artificer power.  One of them should be something like Summoning, or Conjuration.  Look up those keywords in the compendium for details about how those powers work. Summon: www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/gl... Conjuration: www.wizards.com/dndinsider/compendium/gl...
#6 karrg Oct 09, 2009 12:04:45	OK you guys got me on the wild shape(2 words), but using the conjuration and/or summoning keywords gets you a definition, a list of powers, a list of feats, etc. Not what the summoned creatures stats are, what actions it takes to control a summoned creature, etc and entering beast master(y) is pretty much the same thing.
#7 Dragon9 Oct 09, 2009 17:04:41	OK you guys got me on the wild shape(2 words), but using the conjuration and/or summoning keywords gets you a definition, a list of powers, a list of feats, etc. Not what the summoned creatures stats are, what actions it takes to control a summoned creature, etc and entering beast master(y) is pretty much the same thing. Summoned creatures (and conjurations) dont have their own stats unless the power that summons them specifically give them.  The power tells you what actions you have to spend for the creature and what the action is.  Beast Mastery under the Ranger gives you information you need in terms of actions (you use your actions).  What the beast can do depends on what action you spend.  (powers that utilize the beast are generally standard actions unless it's a utility, in general you an use your move action to move th beast its speed, etc.).  The one thing the compendium doesn't have is the stats for beast companions.  Which it really should.
#8 karrg Oct 09, 2009 17:28:25	So where a ranger power with the beast keyword has a line like bite:standard blah blah blah it means you use your standard action not one from you companion, got it. Is that in the compendium somewhere?  So what about the artificer powers that talk about summoned minions? The few of those I looked at mention when its reduced to zero its not destroyed and you don't lose a healing surge, which I take to mean you normally do and its normally destroyed, where do I find that rule? Or is that something that isn't going to be included?    edit: Instead of talking about specific rules and the examples I used I am going to go back to my original question. Is D&DI Compendium a rules compendium or is that not what is intended?
#9 malraux Oct 09, 2009 23:17:46	edit: Instead of talking about specific rules and the examples I used I am going to go back to my original question. Is D&DI Compendium a rules compendium or is that not what is intended? For general game mechanics, the compendium is not a particularly useful source of info.  The book in which the rule is codified is the best place to find a rule. The compendium is primarily a compendium of all the instantiation of rules.  So you can find all the possible familiars, but the rules that govern how familiars work might not be there.
#10 karrg Oct 09, 2009 23:43:36	So the clip from the description of the compendium is correct,just ..uhmm..politician correct. Makes sense they still want you to buy all the books.
#11 Dragon9 Oct 10, 2009 7:30:25	So where a ranger power with the beast keyword has a line like bite:standard blah blah blah it means you use your standard action not one from you companion, got it. Is that in the compendium somewhere? Yes, under Beast Mastery which is listed under the Ranger class.  4th paragraph: "You and your beast companion work so well together that the creature is almost an extension of you. Using your actions in combat, you control your beast companion by issuing it commands." So what about the artificer powers that talk about summoned minions? The few of those I looked at mention when its reduced to zero its not destroyed and you don't lose a healing surge, which I take to mean you normally do and its normally destroyed, where do I find that rule? Or is that something that isn't going to be included? The normal rules for Summoned creatures are in the PHB2 on page 221, in them you normally lose a healing surge when a summoned creature is destroyed.  I suppose those detailed rules are not goign to be included as there isn't any detailed rules on any Keywords. edit: Instead of talking about specific rules and the examples I used I am going to go back to my original question. Is D&DI Compendium a rules compendium or is that not what is intended? It is meant to be a rules compendium.  This may be an oversight, but then again, they also want you to buy their books.  So this may be on purpose.
#12 asmodeuslore Oct 12, 2009 13:15:40	OK you guys got me on the wild shape(2 words), but using the conjuration and/or summoning keywords gets you a definition, a list of powers, a list of feats, etc. Not what the summoned creatures stats are, what actions it takes to control a summoned creature, etc and entering beast master(y) is pretty much the same thing. Hmm... The Conjure keyword has the rules for how to generate the stats, basically use your own Defenses. I'ms surprised summoning doesn't have more information.
#13 karrg Oct 13, 2009 17:27:46	You must have a better relationship with the compendium then I do. If I put in conjure as a keyword I get all sorts of items, powers, creatures, rituals etc...but no glossary entry and no rules on how its suppose to work.
#14 asmodeuslore Oct 13, 2009 18:32:49	its actually 'conjuration' And I have a very loving and tender relationship with the compendium, thankyouverymuch. (she beats me daily with a broom handle)
#15 mdonais Oct 13, 2009 19:11:56	The compendium is not intended to include all of the rules that are found in the Player's Handbook. It is a collection of distinct elements like items and monsters. You still need to own the rule books if you want to read a specific rule.
#16 karrg Oct 14, 2009 0:05:45	OK, that was the question I wanted answered. The bit from WoTC site is only mostly correct, but pretty much what I expected.